Specialties for people with "Aspergers"?

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chillaxbro said:
I'm a bit awkward myself

How did you manage to get past the med school interviews? Did you make any friends in med school?

I have no advice but I'm glad I'm not the only one
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It depends on the interview. I suck at conversation but I did well with the one on one and panel interviews. The one group interview was an absolute disaster.
 
greenlion said:
Are you serious? Have you never been to a club? FYI the Bentley parked out front is a rental and the guys getting bottle service aren't rap stars.

Bold: Didn't I just say as much genius? yes, because others (the girls in my particular city) consider it impressive.
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No because going to the club doesn't interest me. Anyone I'm interested in dating isn't going to be going out to the club either. I just don't see why you somehow falsifying your status, be it through your profession, rented car(obviously not literally you), etc is somehow considered desirable.
 
calvnandhobbs68 said:
wtf does every thread in sdn turn into a dating advice thread?

Never knew we had so many love experts on here.
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And this was after I said I was toning it down with the comments about dating, and making an effort to try to talk about real professional problems facing MD students (or mainly me).

I guess I'm forever going to be "the SDN foreveralone peep."
 
DermViser said:
I think it's safe to assume on SDN, that besides Ark, anyone who uses the word, "bishes" and "hammin" is definitely being sarcastic. I'll be sure to use the quotes to clear any confusion, though.
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For the love of God, it's "going ham," not "hammin." I swear you are doing this deliberately to annoy me.
 
try guys. you might like it. they are more fun than girls.:smuggrin:
 
PL198 said:
Either way, you're f*cked, and it's a terrible idea. But hey I guess I'm just old fashioned about truly representing myself.
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Sounds like a pretty good idea to me.



greenlion said:
fool, I will easily be a surgeon if I choose to. I'm just not there yet, call it a chronological handicap. You can feel superior to me if you want to though based on whatever subjective criteria. And for the record- surgeon isn't what I would personally consider impressive. If I had my way I would have stayed in my original field (IBD at Bear Stearns).
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Lol. You are most likely a huge tool, or trolling.

'If I had my way I would have stayed in my original field (Ulcerative Colitis at Morgan Stanley)'
 
I have high functioning autism, so I think I may be of help.

1. Directed at a previous poster: You do not "grow out" of autism, it isn't like osgood-schlatter dz or acne. Although autism's effects maybe decreased by learning ways to compensate, some people with this disorder will get even worse later in life (then again so may acne).
2. At OP: There is no "specific" field for people with autism. People will recommend radiology and pathology because they place everything in neat little boxes and/or lack understanding that EVERY field has diverse people practicing (despite the N=1 experience we may have).
3. I had it down to OB/GYN, ER, or FM - in large part because I love delivering babies. Where in autism books/forums/Neurotypical recommendations will you find "aspies love delivering babies" - you won't, because it is individual attribute, just like the attributes that will help you decide on a speciality.
4. I ended up chosing FM which is generalized as touchy/feely/deep in interpersonal relationships. I do not practice that way - and it is my choice - and some patients love me, and some patients love touchy/feely people. Again, there is room for different personalities in every setting and yet still be successful.
 
I got 3 PMs. Yes, I'm 80% trolling. Sometimes I like to entertain myself. Don't PM me about it anymore.
 
greenlion said:
I got 3 PMs. Yes, I'm 80% trolling. Sometimes I like to entertain myself. Don't PM me about it anymore.
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All right, I was just curious about what you intended to say, won't PM again.
 
styphon said:
I have high functioning autism, so I think I may be of help.

1. Directed at a previous poster: You do not "grow out" of autism, it isn't like osgood-schlatter dz or acne. Although autism's effects maybe decreased by learning ways to compensate, some people with this disorder will get even worse later in life (then again so may acne).
2. At OP: There is no "specific" field for people with autism. People will recommend radiology and pathology because they place everything in neat little boxes and/or lack understanding that EVERY field has diverse people practicing (despite the N=1 experience we may have).
3. I had it down to OB/GYN, ER, or FM - in large part because I love delivering babies. Where in autism books/forums/Neurotypical recommendations will you find "aspies love delivering babies" - you won't, because it is individual attribute, just like the attributes that will help you decide on a speciality.
4. I ended up chosing FM which is generalized as touchy/feely/deep in interpersonal relationships. I do not practice that way - and it is my choice - and some patients love me, and some patients love touchy/feely people. Again, there is room for different personalities in every setting and yet still be successful.
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you sound like a badass, maybe you've finally grown out of high functioning autism.
I am more in the low functioning normal people kind of thing, though. Neurotic to the bone.
But in the end we agree, primary care can be a good choice.
And avoiding your problems by going into rads or path might not help, in the end.
 
Kahreek said:
you sound like a badass, maybe you've finally grown out of high functioning autism.
I am more in the low functioning normal people kind of thing, though. Neurotic to the bone.
But in the end we agree, primary care can be a good choice.
And avoiding your problems by going into rads or path might not help, in the end.
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How are you neurotic?
 
greenlion said:
Well, you don't need "muscularity" to get girls. Lies work just as well. At least in my city- 30-37% of the population is below the poverty line. That means there's plenty of pretty girls who would love to marry a nice, smart doctor. Now titles like "heart surgeon" or "neurosurgeon" are a bit too on the nose. So I go with vascular surgeon at the bars. (I recommend surgery because it perks interest more than medicine.) Then I explain to them what vascular means with a bunch of medical jargon about this and that. Hook line and sinker. Swear to god I've gotten 3 (very hot) girls in bed this way in just 8 tries.
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i was thinking about this scenario, then my mind just started racing on how i would explain a chick what are the varicose vein treatment options,
i better hit the books again if i want to start picking up chicks.
 
greenlion said:
fool, I will easily be a surgeon if I choose to. I'm just not there yet, call it a chronological handicap. You can feel superior to me if you want to though based on whatever subjective criteria. And for the record- surgeon isn't what I would personally consider impressive. If I had my way I would have stayed in my original field (IBD at Bear Stearns).
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I almost want to leave this forum already because of what sickening subhumans post here.
 
Psai said:
Thank you I work hard on being sickening, helps keep the hospitals in business
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You seem alright, but if Greenlion is representative of the future of medicine then the medical profession is hosed regardless of what organizations govern it or how.
 
PL198 said:
No because going to the club doesn't interest me. Anyone I'm interested in dating isn't going to be going out to the club either. I just don't see why you somehow falsifying your status, be it through your profession, rented car(obviously not literally you), etc is somehow considered desirable.
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let me enlighten you

women make decisions based on emotions not logic

at 20, they don't care if you are actually a high-status male as long as they feel like you are. they aren't trying to settle down so they will pick the hottest guy who feels important.

"all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players"

make them feel important for a night and they will reward you. once you understand the social dynamics at play, it becomes laughably easy.

you pick a local bar/club you frequent with your friends so you are comfortable. you dress and act in an appealing manner. you repeat the same routine over and over until it becomes robotic: tell me something you've never told anyone, lets go dance, hey the club is kinda loud lets go somewhere more private to talk, more touching and laughing, go in for the kiss, and hey lets go back to my place.

its not rocket science
 
Sikkunt said:
let me enlighten you

women make decisions based on emotions not logic

at 20, they don't care if you are actually a high-status male as long as they feel like you are. they aren't trying to settle down so they will pick the hottest guy who feels important.

"all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players"

make them feel important for a night and they will reward you. once you understand the social dynamics at play, it becomes laughably easy.

you pick a local bar/club you frequent with your friends so you are comfortable. you dress and act in an appealing manner. you repeat the same routine over and over until it becomes robotic: tell me something you've never told anyone, lets go dance, hey the club is kinda loud lets go somewhere more private to talk, more touching and laughing, go in for the kiss, and hey lets go back to my place.

its not rocket science
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Yes but I'm not into the whole one night stand thing. All of those concepts about feeling like high status are irrelevant if we're talking long term relationships.
 
Kahreek said:
you sound like a badass, maybe you've finally grown out of high functioning autism.
I am more in the low functioning normal people kind of thing, though. Neurotic to the bone.
But in the end we agree, primary care can be a good choice.
And avoiding your problems by going into rads or path might not help, in the end.
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Autism has allowed me to be a wierd blend of "badass" and "geek." But I think as I have gotten older I may have gotten worse in autistic symptoms, I just don't care as much about all this social interaction/unwritten rules/social protocol that I used to - I also now have the money to fund what every my overwhelming obsession at the moment is.

I am the way I want to be with patients, and the way I would want doctors to treat me. I am quick, straight to the point, blunt and rarely do any small talk (unless I have a purpose, which incase it is not true small talk).

I was trying to show that Family med - or any speciality - may be good for someone with autism if their interests and motivation match with that speciality.

I did forget one piece of advice.. Considering that autism has deficits in both social aspects and in communication - I found interviews extremely hard and my weakest point. Since I knew that, I made my applications my strongest part (both medical school and residency) to counterbalance my poor interview.
 
styphon said:
Autism has allowed me to be a wierd blend of "badass" and "geek." But I think as I have gotten older I may have gotten worse in autistic symptoms, I just don't care as much about all this social interaction/unwritten rules/social protocol that I used to - I also now have the money to fund what every my overwhelming obsession at the moment is.

I am the way I want to be with patients, and the way I would want doctors to treat me. I am quick, straight to the point, blunt and rarely do any small talk (unless I have a purpose, which incase it is not true small talk).

I was trying to show that Family med - or any speciality - may be good for someone with autism if their interests and motivation match with that speciality.

I did forget one piece of advice.. Considering that autism has deficits in both social aspects and in communication - I found interviews extremely hard and my weakest point. Since I knew that, I made my applications my strongest part (both medical school and residency) to counterbalance my poor interview.
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How does the residency interview differ from the med school one? Is it significantly harder?
 
styphon said:
Autism has allowed me to be a wierd blend of "badass" and "geek." But I think as I have gotten older I may have gotten worse in autistic symptoms, I just don't care as much about all this social interaction/unwritten rules/social protocol that I used to - I also now have the money to fund what every my overwhelming obsession at the moment is.

I am the way I want to be with patients, and the way I would want doctors to treat me. I am quick, straight to the point, blunt and rarely do any small talk (unless I have a purpose, which incase it is not true small talk).

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Have you ever thought about how patients might want to be treated? Because I can assure you it's not bluntly sans small talk.
 
touchpause13 said:
Have you ever thought about how patients might want to be treated? Because I can assure you it's not bluntly sans small talk.
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it depends on the patients, and there is a population who definitely likes the lack of small talk.
 
touchpause13 said:
Have you ever thought about how patients might want to be treated? Because I can assure you it's not bluntly sans small talk.
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Kahreek said:
it depends on the patients, and there is a population who definitely likes the lack of small talk.
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Kahreek answers your question correctly. There are groups of patients who do not want small talk or doctors who dance around hard truth - they will come to me and stay with me. Patients who want to gab about their life or whatever non-necessary topics will come to me - not like me - and go to a doctor who does enjoy small talk. I am totally fine with that.

That being said, I will use small talk for medical/diagnostic purposes. It helps when you want to test someones focus/attention/able to concentrate. It also helps with anxious and depressed pt as sometimes they hold back information. Another situation where it becomes useful is people who are schizo/possibily delusional as the longer a conversation lasts, the harder it is for them to suppress the "external stimuli".
 
styphon said:
Kahreek answers your question correctly. There are groups of patients who do not want small talk or doctors who dance around hard truth - they will come to me and stay with me. Patients who want to gab about their life or whatever non-necessary topics will come to me - not like me - and go to a doctor who does enjoy small talk. I am totally fine with that.

That being said, I will use small talk for medical/diagnostic purposes. It helps when you want to test someones focus/attention/able to concentrate. It also helps with anxious and depressed pt as sometimes they hold back information. Another situation where it becomes useful is people who are schizo/possibily delusional as the longer a conversation lasts, the harder it is for them to suppress the "external stimuli".
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I completely agree with this. I hate medical doctors who want to do small talk or are touchy/feely. When it comes to the medical, I want someone who will give me the data. This might seem surprising as I am a psychotherapist, but we don't go in much for small talk either since that would be an avoidance of the real issues. I also enjoy working with patients who have social difficulties, but have exceptional abilities to process information. One more point, I think of Aspergers/High Functioning Autism as more of a normative variation in cognitive functioning than a disorder. Although people with this type of cognitive pattern tend to get bullied a lot as kids which can lead to depression and anxiety. Of course, the socially adept who bullied them often end up developing anti-social traits that lead to incarceration so which one has the problem?
 
I know I’m lttp, but I figured maybe my advice will be helpful to someone. There’s lots of “awkward” people in medicine, but there’s a difference between someone mildy on the spectrum or an “introvert” and someone that’s full on Dwight Schrutte aspie. The latter are the type of students that sit in the front and answer all the questions during lectures, don’t follow social cues, can’t read body language, and run people the wrong way. If someone faces difficulty in medicine because of their autism, they’re more likely to be afflicted with the latter. Even though these people are usually really smart, they may not do well during third year or in more people oriented specialties (FM, Peds, EM, Psych), and night actually be at risk of getting fired from residency since they may say something to piss someone off without realizing it. The few people like that in my class were all told to go into fields like path, rads, or anesthesia. While you shouldn’t not go for a specialty you’re passionate about just because of a condition, it’s also important to pick a field you’ll be good at as well.
 
CidHighwind said:
I know I’m lttp, but I figured maybe my advice will be helpful to someone. There’s lots of “awkward” people in medicine, but there’s a difference between someone mildy on the spectrum or an “introvert” and someone that’s full on Dwight Schrutte aspie. The latter are the type of students that sit in the front and answer all the questions during lectures, don’t follow social cues, can’t read body language, and run people the wrong way. If someone faces difficulty in medicine because of their autism, they’re more likely to be afflicted with the latter. Even though these people are usually really smart, they may not do well during third year or in more people oriented specialties (FM, Peds, EM, Psych), and night actually be at risk of getting fired from residency since they may say something to piss someone off without realizing it. The few people like that in my class were all told to go into fields like path, rads, or anesthesia. While you shouldn’t not go for a specialty you’re passionate about just because of a condition, it’s also important to pick a field you’ll be good at as well.
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The last post is from 2014, OP has been banned...please check the date before posting!
 
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