Stable healthcare careers

[loverofalldogs]

What are some jobs in healthcare that are stable and meet the following criteria?

Has an average or better employment outlook
Pays 60k/year or higher
Doesn't involve more than 8 years of schooling, after high school
Typically normal 9-5 or 8-5 hours
Doesn't involve a great amount of physical work

If anyone has any ideas on good careers that meet this criteria, please post them! Im already familiar with PA, NP, OT, PT, but am looking for more suggestions. Thank you☺️

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[SKaminski]

Have you done any research?
Shouldn't this be in pre-med?
Considering you posted this in Allopathic, you should understand there is 4 years of college, 4 years of med school, and then 3+ years of residency. No physician career is open to you.

 

[owlegrad]

Moving to more appropriate forum.

 

[loverofalldogs]

Moving to more appropriate forum.

What forum did you move it to?

 

[loverofalldogs]

Have you done any research?
Shouldn't this be in pre-med?
Considering you posted this in Allopathic, you should understand there is 4 years of college, 4 years of med school, and then 3+ years of residency. No physician career is open to you.

Not sure where else to post it, theres no general forum for all healthcare areas.

 

[md-2020]

What are some jobs in healthcare that are stable and meet the following criteria?

Has an average or better employment outlook
Pays 60k/year or higher

...all of them?

...
Doesn't involve more than 8 years of schooling, after high school
Typically normal 9-5 or 8-5 hours
Doesn't involve a great amount of physical work

...none of them?

Im already familiar with PA, NP, OT, PT, but am looking for more suggestions. Thank you☺️

Yeah none of those meet the lifestyle requirements you're looking for, not even close.

 

[owlegrad]

Not sure where else to post it, theres no general forum for all healthcare areas.

I moved it to the premed forum. I agree that we don't have a forum exactly tailor made for the question but this seemed best based on what we do have.

 

[Celestia]

What about a dental hygienist? What's the salary? I googled it and it said median was $70k.

What about optometry?

 

[thatwouldbeanarchy]

RN...? Least amount of schooling, average income seems to be around 60k. Typically involves a lot of physical work but there are some areas in which you could maybe minimize that. For example, being a school nurse, working in an assisted living facility, working in a private physician's office. Possibly working in an urgent care center or some similar place that doesn't typically see high acuity patients. I know nurses who don't work clinically at all and do things like billing and coding or insurance claims processing. Sounds boring as hell to me but that's probably the most feasible way to work 9-5...

You also could work in clinical research as a nurse but that may require a master's. Health care jobs don't tend to lend themselves to the kind of incredibly cushy lifestyle you seem to be looking for. Unless maybe you did health admin?

 

[loverofalldogs]

...all of them?

...none of them?

Yeah none of those meet the lifestyle requirements you're looking for, not even close.

A lot of people who work in the field I listed work regular hours and make over 60k. Besides PT none of them require lots of physical work. Not sure what youre talking about.

 

[Lucca]

Sounds like you are looking for a mid-level or nursing care level provider. Most of the non-doctoral healthcare professions would probably meet your criteria besides technicians who I do not believe clear the 60k mark. Nurse might be the best option of all of them.

 

[thatwouldbeanarchy]

A lot of people who work in the field I listed work regular hours and make over 60k. Besides PT none of them require lots of physical work. Not sure what youre talking about.

I think it's more the 9-5 schedule that will be an issue in terms of lifestyle, not the physical nature of the work. I imagine that hours would be heavily dependent on specialty, even for midlevels (for example, EM PA's vs Derm).

 

[TallPreMed]

BSN. Take a job at a nursing home and work your way up to DON, or charge nurse in a hospital. At one of the hospitals I visit their charge nurses are hourly.
Hospice and home health nurses make banging money but are salaried and work on call and more than 9-5.

Or, get your BSN/RN and get into marketing. Turnover is high in the field but you make good money there too. I make more than our hospice nurses and work a 9-4:30 job and love it.

Doesn't sound like you're interested in healthcare for the right reasons though.

 

[Celestia]

I don't think nursing is a good fit at all. It can be very physically demanding work. There are positions that are 8-5ish but this is probably the exception. Especially if you look at a typical career trajectory. I am not a nurse but of those I know, typical first job is gen med hospital ward night shift.

I would highly discourage you from all the fields you mentioned in your OP. Please don't do that, for your sake, your colleagues, and the patients.

 

[Psai]

Administration

 

[loverofalldogs]

I don't think nursing is a good fit at all. It can be very physically demanding work. There are positions that are 8-5ish but this is probably the exception. Especially if you look at a typical career trajectory. I am not a nurse but of those I know, typical first job is gen med hospital ward night shift.

I would highly discourage you from all the fields you mentioned in your OP. Please don't do that, for your sake, your colleagues, and the patients.

I'm sorry, but I didn't know that wanting a job with regular hours automatically means I'm a danger to patients. Clearly there are some jobs with irregular hours that I'm not suited for, but I totally disagree with the whole attitude that you can't be a decent health provider if you're not willing to give up your life for a career. I know a few PA's who work 9-5, never heard of an outpatient PT, OT, ST, etc. not work regular hours.

 

[loverofalldogs]

BSN. Take a job at a nursing home and work your way up to DON, or charge nurse in a hospital. At one of the hospitals I visit their charge nurses are hourly.
Hospice and home health nurses make banging money but are salaried and work on call and more than 9-5.

Or, get your BSN/RN and get into marketing. Turnover is high in the field but you make good money there too. I make more than our hospice nurses and work a 9-4:30 job and love it.

Doesn't sound like you're interested in healthcare for the right reasons though.

I'm not interested in nursing, but thanks for the reply!

 

[WedgeDawg]

Optometry
Dentistry (general)
Genetic counselor
Audiologist

In addition to what you've listed already

 

[TallPreMed]

Optometry
Dentistry (general)
Genetic counselor
Audiologist

In addition to what you've listed already

But they don't want all of that extra education! GASP!

 

[WedgeDawg]

But they don't want all of that extra education! GASP!

None of these involve more than 8 years of schooling after high school.

 

[TallPreMed]

I'm sorry, but I didn't know that wanting a job with regular hours automatically means I'm a danger to patients. Clearly there are some jobs with irregular hours that I'm not suited for, but I totally disagree with the whole attitude that you can't be a decent health provider if you're not willing to give up your life for a career. I know a few PA's who work 9-5, never heard of an outpatient PT, OT, ST, etc. not work regular hours.

 

[WedgeDawg]

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that's not helpful

 

[loverofalldogs]

But they don't want all of that extra education! GASP!

Looks like someone either doesn't know how to count, or just has a blatant ignorance for what has been said. Optometry, dentistry, and audiology are all 8 years of schooling, genetic counseling is 6. I find it funny how you comment on me being "butthurt" for disagreeing with another post, but yet you waste your time trolling my thread and posting memes. How old are you exactly? 15?

 

[ProspectiveKidd]

Looks like someone either doesn't know how to count, or just has a blatant ignorance for what has been said. Optometry, dentistry, and audiology are all 8 years of schooling, genetic counseling is 6. I find it funny how you comment on me being "butthurt" for disagreeing with another post, but yet you waste your time trolling my thread and posting memes. How old are you exactly? 15?

First of all you don't even mention where your interests lie and it comes off as superficial. You begin by posting what you will and won't do, but get defensive when they tell you like it is. It shouldn't be a surprise you get the occasional butthurt reply.

 

[loverofalldogs]

First of all you don't even mention where your interests lie; it comes off as superficial. You begin by posting what you will and won't do, but get defensive when they tell you like it is. It shouldn't be a surprise you get the occasional butthurt reply.

I haven't fully decided what I want to do, if I did I wouldn't be posting this. I don't really see anyone "telling me like it is" other than a troll who doesn't even know the length of schooling for half of the careers discussed (even I know that as a non healthcare provider), and someone who believes that you can't be a good healthcare worker if you're not willing to spend your whole life on a career, even though many people work in the field of healthcare and work regular hours, maybe not as docs or RNs, but still plenty of other jobs.

 

[ProspectiveKidd]

I haven't fully decided what I want to do, if I did I wouldn't be posting this. I don't really see anyone "telling me like it is" other than a troll who doesn't even know the length of schooling for half of the careers discussed (even I know that as a non healthcare provider), and someone who believes that you can't be a good healthcare worker if you're not willing to spend your whole life on a career, even though many people work in the field of healthcare and work regular hours, maybe not as docs or RNs, but still plenty of other jobs.

The comment was shortsighted to say the least, but (s)he was referring to the initial careers you mentioned(PA/NP particularly) which may not allow for 9-5 all the time.

Also it depends on your definition of physical; most healthcare jobs are going to require more than sitting behind a desk the majority of the shift.

 

[TallPreMed]

I haven't fully decided what I want to do, if I did I wouldn't be posting this. I don't really see anyone "telling me like it is" other than a troll who doesn't even know the length of schooling for half of the careers discussed (even I know that as a non healthcare provider), and someone who believes that you can't be a good healthcare worker if you're not willing to spend your whole life on a career, even though many people work in the field of healthcare and work regular hours, maybe not as docs or RNs, but still plenty of other jobs.

Lalex? STREAMPAW?

But in all seriousness and because I am actually curious- if you know all about these post graduate options "as a non healthcare provider" then why are you asking the interwebz on what to do? Isn't this research that can be conducted on your own if you don't want others' opinions, and not only that, but shoot down what other people have to say when they make a suggestion or educated guess?

OP reminds me of when someone on facebooks asks for suggestions for a place to eat dinner, gives no major background information, and then when people respond gives answers like "too expensive" "don't like Italian" "nope"

 

[TallPreMed]

that's not helpful

Maybe not helpful but just about every post written has proven my point.

As for counting, I just assumed OP would take 5 years in UG and wouldn't want the 4 post grad years in addition to it

 

[loverofalldogs]

Maybe not helpful but just about every post written has proven my point.

As for counting, I just assumed OP would take 5 years in UG and wouldn't want the 4 post grad years in addition to it

Maybe you haven't read my other posts, but I have a 3.9 GPA , so I'm pretty sure my academics aren't a problem 😉 However, you clearly have some issues if you feel the need to spend all your free time trolling on a forum for students 8+ years younger than you.

 

[loverofalldogs]

The comment was shortsighted to say the least, but (s)he was referring to the initial careers you mentioned(PA/NP particularly) which may not allow for 9-5 all the time.

Also it depends on your definition of physical; most healthcare jobs are going to require more than sitting behind a desk the majority of the shift.

Physical meaning lifting patients or equipment regularly. I don't want to sit behind a desk, but can't lift more than 30 lbs at a time.

 

[TallPreMed]

Maybe you haven't read my other posts, but I have a 3.9 GPA , so I'm pretty sure my academics aren't a problem 😉 However, you clearly have some issues if you feel the need to spend all your free time trolling on a forum for students 8+ years younger than you.

Now who can't do math? LOLOLOLOLOL
Ok I'm done. I don't need to get banned for trolling punks. Bye! Have a wonderful time!

 

[loverofalldogs]

Lalex? STREAMPAW?

But in all seriousness and because I am actually curious- if you know all about these post graduate options "as a non healthcare provider" then why are you asking the interwebz on what to do? Isn't this research that can be conducted on your own if you don't want others' opinions, and not only that, but shoot down what other people have to say when they make a suggestion or educated guess?

OP reminds me of when someone on facebooks asks for suggestions for a place to eat dinner, gives no major background information, and then when people respond gives answers like "too expensive" "don't like Italian" "nope"

I already answered this question, but I have done my research and haven't decided. Was wondering if anyone had any other suggestions I hadn't thought of, or if someone who worked in another healthcare field would be able to describe what kind of hours they work, what their job is like, etc. But serious question, are you actually a real doctor, or do you just troll on here pretending to be one?

 

[loverofalldogs]

Now who can't do math? LOLOLOLOLOL
Ok I'm done. I don't need to get banned for trolling punks. Bye! Have a wonderful time! View attachment 200087

This is a forum for pre-med students, you had posted before that you were a doctor, but your username says pre-med. Very confusing and suspicious, I must say. Assuming you're a doc, it would've taken approximately 8 years to go through med school. But who knows what you are.

 

[TallPreMed]

This is a forum for pre-med students, you had posted before that you were a doctor, but your username says pre-med. Very confusing and suspicious, I must say. Assuming you're a doc, it would've taken approximately 8 years to go through med school. But who knows what you are.

Ok just had to make this one last comment as your post assumes that I am claiming to be a physician. Which I am not.

Not a physician. Work as a liaison at a hospice. Work with physicians RNs LPNs CNAs MSWs PTs OTs on a daily basis. Premed. Just got started. So best of luck in your ventures!

 

[loverofalldogs]

Ok just had to make this one last comment as your post assumes that I am claiming to be a physician. Which I am not.

Not a physician. Work as a liaison at a hospice. Work with physicians RNs LPNs CNAs MSWs PTs OTs on a daily basis. Premed. Just got started. So best of luck in your ventures!

Wait so you're not even a physician or in medical school, but yet you make fun of me for not wanting to be in school for 8 years? HAHAHAHAHA you're pathetic. Reported you. Now get off my ****ing forum.

 

[TallPreMed]

Lol.

Wait. If you don't want doctors on your thread. And you don't want pre meds on your thread. Then what DO you want? And again, against the troll alerts- this is a serious question

 

[Celestia]

I'm sorry, but I didn't know that wanting a job with regular hours automatically means I'm a danger to patients. Clearly there are some jobs with irregular hours that I'm not suited for, but I totally disagree with the whole attitude that you can't be a decent health provider if you're not willing to give up your life for a career. I know a few PA's who work 9-5, never heard of an outpatient PT, OT, ST, etc. not work regular hours.

I'm sorry that I came off sounding harsh, but I think if you look at the responses to your OP, you will see a theme common to just about all the posters. What we are responding to is the naive sense in your OP that avoiding physical effort and odd-hours is at all appropriate or possible for an RN, NP, PA or PT. Even if some terminal jobs might fit the criteria, the training will not. I think it's also unfortunate that you ask this question on SDN (starting off in the allo forum) because you will typically get the most dedicated individuals, who in many cases have given up many things for their chosen profession. Thus, may have even less respect for prioritizing lifestyle/ convenience over patient care.

But just to humor you a bit more, - I think speech pathologist, dietitian also seem like reasonable choices for someone who wants a job in healthcare but doesn't want a physically taxing job and wants more regular hours. You need a field without any emergencies.

But to go back to the professions you listed in your original post, please, not RN, not NP, not PA, not PT. None of these are a good fit for the criteria you listed. I never meant you would be a danger, but someone who does not want physically taxing work, and does not want to work off-hours (i.e. possibly handle an emergency), will not be suited for those professions. Therefore, they will not be doing their patients any favors. Going back, possibly OT would be suitable, so I apologize for missing that one in the original post.

Psychologist?

 

[QofQuimica]

Folks, let's please stay on topic here.

OP, if I wanted a career in health care that didn't require a lot of years in school, I'd consider something like ultrasound, MRI, or CT tech. They typically need an AA (so two years of education); they develop a skill that is in high-demand (good job prospects); and they have plenty of opportunities to bring in extra money by working overtime.

 

[Celestia]

Wait so you're not even a physician or in medical school, but yet you make fun of me for not wanting to be in school for 8 years? HAHAHAHAHA you're pathetic. Reported you. Now get off my ****ing forum.

whoa, i think you may have crossed a line here. this is not your forum.

 

[loverofalldogs]

Lol.

Wait. If you don't want doctors on your thread. And you don't want pre meds on your thread. Then what DO you want? And again, against the troll alerts- this is a serious question


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I want people who aren't trolling or harassing random members because they feel unhappy with their own lives, that's what I want.

 

[Lost in Translation]

whoa, i think you may have crossed a line here. this is not your forum.

He must be that 4chan guy.

 

[loverofalldogs]

whoa, i think you may have crossed a line here. this is not your forum.

I created this post, not forum. Sorry, but it was pretty clear what I meant. You can clearly see I'm the OP on this post.

 

[loverofalldogs]

He must be that 4chan guy.

And you must be a virgin. I'm a girl, actually.

 

[Celestia]

Folks, let's please stay on topic here.

OP, if I wanted a career in health care that didn't require a lot of years in school, I'd consider something like ultrasound, MRI, or CT tech. They typically need an AA (so two years of education); they develop a skill that is in high-demand (good job prospects); and they have plenty of opportunities to bring in extra money by working overtime.

seem like good options. Didn't know that salary was about 60K.

 

[Lost in Translation]

I created this post, not forum. Sorry, but it was pretty clear what I meant. You can clearly see I'm the OP on this post.

Wait so you're not even a physician or in medical school, but yet you make fun of me for not wanting to be in school for 8 years? HAHAHAHAHA you're pathetic. Reported you. Now get off my ****ing forum.

Now get off my ****ing forum.

Now get off my ****ing forum.

Now get off my ****ing forum.

Now get off my ****ing forum.

Now get off my ****ing forum.

Forum is what we're on. Post is what this box of text is. The word you might have been looking for is "topic" or "thread."

So, no, it wasn't clear that you meant either of those two.

And you must be a virgin. I'm a girl, actually.

No one cares what gender you are on the internet.

 

[QofQuimica]

seem like good options. Didn't know that salary was about 60K.

Yeah, rad techs make good money. Especially the ones who are willing to take call. Our ultrasound techs get paid overtime any time we actually call them in.

 

[Celestia]

I created this post, not forum. Sorry, but it was pretty clear what I meant. You can clearly see I'm the OP on this post.

I think the best advice I can give to you is to just ignore people if they "get your goat." If you react and continue a fight, it just gets worse. and it's not like you have any real sense of ownership here, people are free to post on whatever threads they want.

 

[loverofalldogs]

Forum is what we're on. Post is what this box of text is. The word you might have been looking for is "topic" or "thread."

So, no, it wasn't clear that you meant either of those two.



No one cares what gender you are on the internet.

I just ****ing said I meant post not forum!!!!! Can any of you people ****ing read or are you all trolls?

 

[Lost in Translation]

Yeah, rad techs make good money. Especially the ones who are willing to take call. Our ultrasound techs get paid overtime any time we actually call them in.

You wanna send some of those willing-to-take-call techs over to my hospital?

 

[rsrs3739]

What are some jobs in healthcare that are stable and meet the following criteria?

Has an average or better employment outlook
Pays 60k/year or higher
Doesn't involve more than 8 years of schooling, after high school
Typically normal 9-5 or 8-5 hours
Doesn't involve a great amount of physical work

If anyone has any ideas on good careers that meet this criteria, please post them! Im already familiar with PA, NP, OT, PT, but am looking for more suggestions. Thank you

I think your main focus in healthcare should be helping people...Really, by the looks of conditions you gave in the original post, you seem to be all about yourself. It's not easy to get a respectable job in healthcare. Well, it shouldn't be. You'll be responsible for patients wellbeing..
Maybe you should work in administration like others have said. It'll meet all of your criteria but the salary.