Starting a practice during residency?

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I was wondering if it was possible to start building a private practice during your residency. It seems to me that there are a lot people asking to see me outside of the hospital in my private office and I have to keep saying its not open yet. I know most insurance carriers won't put you on their panel until you're BE/BS but could op out of medicaid and take cash only for a year or so? I have an un-used appartment in my basement which could sub as a temporary office. Am I missing something?

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I was wondering if it was possible to start building a private practice during your residency. It seems to me that there are a lot people asking to see me outside of the hospital in my private office and I have to keep saying its not open yet. I know most insurance carriers won't put you on their panel until you're BE/BS but could op out of medicaid and take cash only for a year or so? I have an un-used appartment in my basement which could sub as a temporary office. Am I missing something?

I doubt your residency malpractice would cover this, do you have your own malpractice coverage?
 
I don't have my on malpractice but I'd be willing to get it. I might add that step III is done and my license is pending.
 
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I don't have my on malpractice but I'd be willing to get it. I might add that step III is done and my license is pending.
intersting question...
If I am correct all the insurance people look for your BC/BE and an unrestricted license. 2) depends on your state regulations check with your state whether they accept a third year resident can open a PC. 3) how about DEA/CLIA and major credentialing?? I dont think they will accept while you are still in third year. 4) how about your hospital did u check with your Medical Director whether they accepted to open a practice and steal their patients ;-)))

even I'm interested on these..
 
Practical details about running a practice are so lacking in residency, but you are right! There is nothing preventing you from doing the above. You would, however, have to meet basic regulatory criteria.

1. You have to be licensed (looks like you’re on top of that)
2. You need a DEA number (and a dangerous controlled substance or DCS number depending on the state)
3. You have to follow other basic practice criteria such as maintaining medical records of any patients seen for, usually 7 years

Of course, there are a few other issues also. One is if you’ve ever been “uncovered” for malpractice during any period of practice, you will be unable in the future to get any major carrier to cover you. So for that reason alone you pretty much have to get some malpractice. In terms of doing so however, most (but not all!) carriers will deny you coverage based on your non-completion of a residency, but you can probably find something with enough looking around. Another big issue however is that you are not just responsible for the malpractice premiums, but are also liable for “tail” coverage if you have any change in location or break in coverage before you start your post-residency practice-- which is very expensive! (You’ll have to read up on tail coverage somewhere, but to make a long explaination short it covers “prior acts” from when you were actively insured by an old policy). So unless you transition directly from this pre-residency practice to post-residency practice, you are going to be stuck with a huge bill for both the insurance and tail which will probably be much more than you’ll make seeing patients in your basement!

As for your “cash only” concept, most people ain’t going to go for that unless you charge like $50 a visit-- which I guess wouldn’t be too bad with the low overhead of operating out of your basement! I don’t know though how many people would want to venture down in that basement of yours without a few more trappings of legitimacy-- ie. a receptionist, a nurse.. maybe a few more patients waiting down there. You’d be surprised though how many insurance plans will give you a provider number with just your medical license and a tax ID, so I’d give that a shot for billing your services “out of network.” The number of plans that would credential you as an actual PCP however would be few if any. That would require a number of criteria such as hospital privileges, 24 hour coverage, etc, etc.

I’m very interested though on the kind of services you plan on providing in that basement of yours! You could certainly draw labs yourself, use the pull-out sofa for minor procedures or gyn exams:laugh:.. stick an eye chart on the wall. In terms of equipment, as long as you limit yourself to things like med refills and the bare minimum of diagnostics, I guess you don’t need much!

Its all a very interesting concept though! I like people who think outside the box!
 
Dont want to discourage but I checked with one of the attorney for NJ state, he says:

A physician may offer services as an employee of a corporation only if
>the corporation is: (a) owned by licensed physicians (b) a licensed HMO,
>hospital, long or short-term care facility, (c) not in the health care
>business but provides first aid to employees and customers, (d) a
>non-profit corporation sponsored by a union, social or religious or
>fraternal organization providing health care services only to its
>members, (e) an educational institution which provides health care to
>students and faculty, or (f) an insurance company.
>
>Therefore, except in limited circumstances, only licensed NJ physicians
>may own a medical office.

so based on his email I understood that we need to have a state Medical Unrestricted license.
 
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