Starting Free Clinic....Need Advice.

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Hey to all you fellow medical students out there suffering through biochem and such. At UAB we are trying to start a free clinic in an extremely underserved area of our city. We have run into some problems and are kind of starting at square one again. I was hoping that some people on this board might have experience with running student run clinics. If anyone does I would greatly appreciate any advice and would like to talk to you.
Thanks
Justin Hall
 
We have one at Tulane, and it's very well run. I'm not part of the leadership (although I'm a 2nd year, and it's coordinated by 2nd years), but I have a decent idea of how it works. Some things you'll want to have thought about:

1) A physician to supervise you, who can be counted on to be there.
2) Record-keeping: this is also mandatory, so you need to have charts prepared. They don't have to be like hospital charts. But the first year students working there might appreciate a history form with prompts for various essential pieces of information.
3) How are you going to keep track of these charts? They take up space, and you may or may not have patients who return. So whose job will it be to keep track of the charts?
4) Medications: no one will come if you can diagnose, but not treat. Call your State Board of Pharmacy and ask them what the regulations are for medication procurement and dispensing for a free clinic. Also ask them if you are allowed to use expired drugs, and to solicit donations of expired non-controlled-substance drugs from local pharmacies. Normally, these are returned to the manufacturer for a full refund. You can also try to locate drug reps from the big pharmaceutical companies, and ask if their company would be willing to donate their expired returned drugs. Or you could call the Medical Board. I'm sure they'd be able to give you advice as well.
5) What's your patient population? This will determine which drugs you really HAVE to have.
6) Is there a place to examine patients in private? Exam tables? Basic equipment? (i.e. blood pressure cuffs, oto/ophthalmoscope, blood glucose testing kit, urine dipsticks, and whatever else you can get donated or have money to buy.
7) dispensing supplies--this goes with #4&5, but I only thought of it just now. You'll need pill containers (a big one and a little one), caps (sold separately), dispensing tray & spatula (hit up a drug rep), and labels (easy to make on your computer). Again, call the State Board of pharmacy to find out the minimum information that needs to go on the label. I imagine it would be handled like samples, so you could probably get away with very minimal info.
8) I'm sure there are more issues, but I can't think of any right now.

In general, the workflow goes like this: student calls for patient in the waiting area, escorts him (we don't see females-it's part of a rehab program for men w/ substance abuse problems) to the exam room, which is just an exam table separated from the other tables by a curtain. The 1st or 2nd year does the interview, then presents that info to the 3rd year, who does the exam, figures out what seems to be wrong, and comes up with recommendations. The 3rd year presents all of that to the physician, who agrees or disagrees (which then entails some teaching) and goes in to talk to and examine the patient himself (with very focused questions and exam). The final plan is determined, and the students get the medications ready and explain to the patient what to do and how to take them, and then send him on his way.

So the physician ends up seeing anywhere from 15-30 patients in the space of 2-3 hours, and each patient gets a thorough exam, and the students get to practice whatever skills they've learned up to that point. It's a really neat program. Every school should have this kind of thing, but I think it's actually pretty rare. But maybe not for long.
 
Im confused, doesnt your state have indigent care facilities ala MediCal or county health clinics? Because your bored isnt a valid reason to begin terrorizing the populace with subpar clinical skills. R1s are enough of a menace to society, let alone a loose collection of grab ass med students! The thought almost causes me to recoil in utter horror. These are peoples lives, not something to mess around with when the sony playstation gets boring.

Have you no shame? :laugh:
 
I'll speak from experience on this one... I actually did run a clinic very much like Samoa described here at UC as a second year last year, and all of the points in that post are excellent.

A couple things -

1. Knowing your patient population is absolutely KEY. Our clinic is run at a homless shelter. That being the case, we run it like a bare bones urgent care. We have H&P forms that we use, but we don't keep files on people. Essentially every patient every week is a new patient, even if we have seen them before. This year, the coordinators are hanging onto the forms after we're done for the evening for research purposes, but in the past they've just been disposed of.

2. As for medications - I'm going to disagree with Samoa on one of the finer points. I would recommend not even considering expired meds. Also, at least around here, drug reps must have a physician sign for any meds they give out (samples, etc). If you have someone that will do that, great. Our main preceptor hits up drug reps for everything they've got when they come to her office. You might also call around to some private docs in town and ask if they have bunches of something that you might be able to use. Also, don't forget about OTC meds. Tylenol, advil, and aspirin (for anticoag), benadryl, sudafed, and cough drops can work wonders. We also give vitamins to all comers. As for specific Rx meds, we don't really have many. I think right now they have a bunch of Bextra, and lots of Biaxin. Having at least 1 broad-spectrum antibiotic is absolutely essential for treating pneumonia, sinusitis, etc.

3. Referrals - If by chance you diagnose a problem that's beyond your ability to treat, what are you going to have that pt do? Say, something like an STD you don't have the correct Abx for, or someone with a heart condition that should be seen and followed by cardiology. Around here, the health dept. has a medical van that visits the shelters several times each week. They have the ability to provide more services, and get patients hooked up with additional care at the University Hospital. If our patients have something beyond our scope, we can tell them when the van comes and to go be seen by the van. You need to know what services like this exist in your area - I suggest consulting the local health department.

That's all that I can add for now.
 
thanks so far to everyone who has responded...well maybe not LAdoc$$...the ideas so far have been great... I would greatly appreciate any more advice that people have
JHall
 
NateatUC said:
I'll speak from experience on this one... I actually did run a clinic very much like Samoa described here at UC as a second year last year, and all of the points in that post are excellent.

Hello!
Just curious- where was the free clinic at UC? Was it at the University Hospital? I have never heard about it, but I think it is a wonderful idea!
 
Peeshee said:
Hello!
Just curious- where was the free clinic at UC? Was it at the University Hospital? I have never heard about it, but I think it is a wonderful idea!


Actually, no. We took the show on the road, and worked out of a small room and a couple cabinets at the Drop-Inn Center down in Over-The-Rhine. We've been doing it for about 10 years.
 
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