Stethoscope Question?

[lychee02]

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I have a friend who will be going to medical school soon, so I thought buying her stethoscope would be a nice gesture. I've done some research and narrowed it down between the Littman Classic II SE vs the Cardiology III. Which one is the best overall? I've heard many say Cardiology, but others are fans of the Classic. I want something durable and which she can use throughout medical school then upgrade later once she gets to residency if she chooses to do so.

 

[deleted564496]

I have the cardiology III (it was a gift), but it's really nice.. The Littman classic is pretty much the norm at my school. As a first year there will be no difference… To my knowledge the cardiology III really doesn't ever need to be replaced regardless of what specialty. The classic probably doesn't either though…

Long story short, either would be a nice gift 🙂

 

[tn4596]

1 more vote for cardiology 3

 

[Donald Juan]

Cardio III. Make sure you get pink rainbow.

 

[Brain Bucket]

There should be no need to upgrade the Cardio III, even the Select II should last most physicians their career.

 

[jturkel]

i think you have to have the electronic ones now that can record heart sounds if you want to have any shot at AOA

 

[Mad Jack]

I own both. I would recommend the Cards III only because of Peds- the two heads mean you can use one scope for everything but neonates, and you'll have to do a bit of time with kids in medical school. You need both a peds and neo scope to back up a Classic II, while you only require a cheap neo scope to back up a Cards III. You can do both high and low frequencies on a Cards III for pedi and adults, while a Classic II SE only provides you with high and low adult frequencies.

 

[Flamen04]

i think you have to have the electronic ones now that can record heart sounds if you want to have any shot at AOA

NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. I have one and hate it. Normal stethoscopes sounds SO much better, regardless of quality.

 

[@JackShephard]

I have a friend who will be going to medical school soon, so I thought buying her stethoscope would be a nice gesture. I've done some research and narrowed it down between the Littman Classic II SE vs the Cardiology III. Which one is the best overall? I've heard many say Cardiology, but others are fans of the Classic. I want something durable and which she can use throughout medical school then upgrade later once she gets to residency if she chooses to do so.

I like Cardio III.

But it doesn't really matter. No need to ever upgrade.

Cardiologist will do fine with a Cardio III. 99.99% of physicians will do fine with it. The II SE is fine too.

 

[neusu]

As a resident who was given a stethescope in good gesture, I have no idea where it is currently. Get him or her a nice pen. For the same price, you can get a Mount Blanc. I surely didn't lose that.

 

[Freddie Mercury]

99% of the time you're just pretending you hear the sounds anyways so I'd just stick with the Fisher Price set

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

Welch-allyn

 

[Psai]

99% of the time you're just pretending you hear the sounds anyways so I'd just stick with the Fisher Price set

Not that I have a lot of experience but I've been hearing all the murmurs that my preceptor has been showing me with the cardiology III so I'm happy with it.

 

[username456789]

NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. I have one and hate it. Normal stethoscopes sounds SO much better, regardless of quality.

Are you new to the internet, or just new to jokes?

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

Stethoscopes are 99% pretending 1% wtf is that.

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

I have a friend who will be going to medical school soon, so I thought buying her stethoscope would be a nice gesture. I've done some research and narrowed it down between the Littman Classic II SE vs the Cardiology III. Which one is the best overall? I've heard many say Cardiology, but others are fans of the Classic. I want something durable and which she can use throughout medical school then upgrade later once she gets to residency if she chooses to do so.

Legit question, are you tryna drop those panties?

 

[NickNaylor]

NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. I have one and hate it. Normal stethoscopes sounds SO much better, regardless of quality.

Just curious, what model did you get? Any more thoughts on using it?

I'm a gadget kind of guy and am intrigued with the idea of an electronic steth, but for a variety of reasons I likely won't be getting one (being perceived as "that guy," regardless of intention, being chief among them). I've heard that the sound quality can be pretty variable from anything like "sounds like crap" to "pretty close to a normal steth."


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[DermViser]

Just curious, what model did you get? Any more thoughts on using it?

I'm a gadget kind of guy and am intrigued with the idea of an electronic steth, but for a variety of reasons I likely won't be getting one (being perceived as "that guy," regardless of intention, being chief among them). I've heard that the sound quality can be pretty variable from anything like "sounds like crap" to "pretty close to a normal steth."
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I don't think you'd be perceived as "that guy" at all for having an electronic stethoscope. Our hospitalist had this one: http://www.littmann.com/wps/portal/...ch-3200BK27?N=4294958300+5932256+5002723&rt=d, and we all thought it was pretty cool.

 

[NickNaylor]

I don't think you'd be perceived as "that guy" at all for having an electronic stethoscope. Our hospitalist had this one: http://www.littmann.com/wps/portal/...ch-3200BK27?N=4294958300+5932256+5002723&rt=d, and we all thought it was pretty cool.

That was actually the one I was considering. Given the price, though, I'm leery about spending that much on a steth when seemingly a lot of people complain about the sound quality. At the end of the day, I need to be able to actually hear stuff with reasonably high fidelity.


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[DermViser]

That was actually the one I was considering. Given the price, though, I'm leery about spending that much on a steth when seemingly a lot of people complain about the sound quality. At the end of the day, I need to be able to actually hear stuff with reasonably high fidelity.
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Well, there are other electronic stethoscopes as well: http://www.allheart.com/electronic-stethoscopes/c/1114/
The problem is you definitely risk being "that guy" with those ones.

 

[wanderer]

That was actually the one I was considering. Given the price, though, I'm leery about spending that much on a steth when seemingly a lot of people complain about the sound quality. At the end of the day, I need to be able to actually hear stuff with reasonably high fidelity.


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Why would you get a fancy steth if you're going into psych? You wouldn't get much use out of it.

 

[NickNaylor]

Why would you get a fancy steth if you're going into psych? You wouldn't get much use out of it.

Like I said, I like gadgets. Why not? I still have to do 6+ months of medicine at a minimum. And contrary to popular belief you still do physical exams on occasion. 😛

I don't want to get one to HAVE THE BEST STETH EVAR. I just want to try the tech out and see how it performs compared to the Cardiology III that I'm used to.

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[wanderer]

Like I said, I like gadgets. Why not? I still have to do 6+ months of medicine at a minimum. And contrary to popular belief you still do physical exams on occasion. 😛

I don't want to get one to HAVE THE BEST STETH EVAR. I just want to try the tech out and see how it performs compared to the Cardiology III that I'm used to.

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My first day of psych, a student got yelled at for having a white coat and stethoscope on the inpatient unit. Obviously all docs other than path and rads will listen to hearts and lungs, but you can easily get away with using even disposable steths.

 

[NickNaylor]

My first day of psych, a student got yelled at for having a white coat and stethoscope on the inpatient unit. Obviously all docs other than path and rads will listen to hearts and lungs, but you can easily get away with using even disposable steths.

Just because you can doesn't mean you have to! Griping at people for having a steth is just stupid.


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[DermViser]

My first day of psych, a student got yelled at for having a white coat and stethoscope on the inpatient unit

I can understand possibly why. If you have a very paranoid psych patient in an inpatient unit, they could easily lash out, thinking you're going to try to sedate/calm them/restrain them. There are reasons that a certain dress protocol is there in psych -- i.e. not wearing ties, etc.

 

[wanderer]

I can understand possibly why. If you have a very paranoid psych patient in an inpatient unit, they could easily lash out, thinking you're going to try to sedate/calm them/restrain them. There are reasons that a certain dress protocol is there in psych -- i.e. not wearing ties, etc.

Yea at least a quarter of the patients were paranoid schizophrenic, so I agree with that policy. Some of these patients get freaked out by the most minor things, and many have a distrust of doctors and the white coat, even beyond their baseline paranoia.

 

[DermViser]

Just because you can doesn't mean you have to! Griping at people for having a steth is just stupid.
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Maybe bc a stethoscope can easily be grabbed by a patient and used to strangle the person.

 

[Laryngophed]

OP, Welch-Allyn Harvey Elite or DLX are great 'scopes to buy new at a retailer. There are used Littman Cardiology II's (not the III that is currently running around) that is also a great stethoscope.

 

[NickNaylor]

Maybe bc a stethoscope can easily be grabbed by a patient and used to strangle the person.

Lol. I suppose these are the kinds of things you don't need to worry about in Wealthy Suburban Hospital.


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[DermViser]

Lol. I suppose these are the kinds of things you don't need to worry about in Wealthy Suburban Hospital.

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Even Wealthy Suburban Hospitals, have inpatient psych wards with patients who are violent.

 

[NickNaylor]

Even Wealthy Suburban Hospitals, have inpatient psych wards with patients who are violent.

Nah, ship those guys to Big Academic Hospital. You know, cause it's hard and stuff.


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[Flamen04]

I don't think you'd be perceived as "that guy" at all for having an electronic stethoscope. Our hospitalist had this one: http://www.littmann.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Littmann/stethoscope/stethoscope-catalog/catalog/~/3M-Littmann-Electronic-Stethoscope-Model-3200-Black-Tube-27-inch-3200BK27?N=4294958300 5932256 5002723&rt=d, and we all thought it was pretty cool.

This is the one I have. I though it was pretty cool when I first got it. Slowly, I got frustrated with how it amplified ALL sounds, not only heart sounds. If I move my finger the slightest bit while holding it, I can hear it move. If the place where I'm using the stethoscope is loud, I can hear it in the background. The sound also sounds a bit distorted when compared to a normal stethoscope since it has to be amplified by the electronic gizmo in the device. Sure, you can "record sounds," but that feature is something most people won't use. A lot of people love it or hate it. I hate it, and that's my opinion. I would try to see if anyone around you has one that you could try for a few minutes before you drop the money on the device.

 

[DermViser]

Nah, ship those guys to Big Academic Hospital. You know, cause it's hard and stuff.

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Touché. That and their insurance card doesn't reimburse well. Hence why they are good "teaching cases" for medical students and residents. Gotta love those academic medical centers and the "we have such diverse pathology" line.