Stop bragging about how much shadowing you've done

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First post here...

Honestly, it's getting old, no one cares that you are a pro at following a physician around. You do realize there are plenty of other people, or organisms that could do this? A child can, a dog can, a chimpanzee can...see a common theme?

I've bumped into countless kids who proclaim they've shadowed doctors in nearly every specialty for 200+ hours for each to get genuine clinical exposure due to them wanting to be future doctors....this is ridiculous....GO VOLUNTEER

In my honest opinion, no more than 150 hours of shadowing is even informally required by the most stringent of adcoms because all it proves is that you enjoy watching people do things while you stand around like an idiot probably playing games on your phone anyways.
 
kmedbro88 said:
First post here...

Honestly, it's getting old, no one cares that you are a pro at following a physician around. You do realize there are plenty of other people, or organisms that could do this? A child can, a dog can, a chimpanzee can...see a common theme?

I've bumped into countless kids who proclaim they've shadowed doctors in nearly every specialty for 200+ hours for each to get genuine clinical exposure due to them wanting to be future doctors....this is ridiculous....GO VOLUNTEER

In my honest opinion, no more than 150 hours of shadowing is even informally required by the most stringent of adcoms because all it proves is that you enjoy watching people do things while you stand around like an idiot probably playing games on your phone anyways.
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Solid first post:laugh: I've never met anyone IRL like this
 
And this makes you angry? Why, exactly?

Let other people do their stuff and you do your stuff.
 
kmedbro88 said:
First post here...

Honestly, it's getting old, no one cares that you are a pro at following a physician around. You do realize there are plenty of other people, or organisms that could do this? A child can, a dog can, a chimpanzee can...see a common theme?
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Yeah, but I can do it better.
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I've bumped into countless kids who proclaim they've shadowed doctors in nearly every specialty for 200+ hours for each to get genuine clinical exposure due to them wanting to be future doctors....this is ridiculous....GO VOLUNTEER

In my honest opinion, no more than 150 hours of shadowing is even informally required by the most stringent of adcoms because all it proves is that you enjoy watching people do things while you stand around like an idiot probably playing games on your phone anyways.
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Volunteering is a much bigger waste of time than shadowing. Yes, I'm getting a lot of genuine clinical experience from folding blankets or getting lost trying to find the cafeteria.
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circulus vitios said:
Volunteering is a much bigger waste of time than shadowing. Yes, I'm getting a lot of genuine clinical experience from folding blankets or getting lost trying to find the cafeteria.
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get a better volunteering gig, bro


also OP mad cuz no doctors like him enough to let him shadow :meanie:

P.S: I have 300+ shadowing hours with a top neurosurgeon from Harvard
 
circulus vitios said:
Yeah, but I can do it better.
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Volunteering is a much bigger waste of time than shadowing. Yes, I'm getting a lot of genuine clinical experience from folding blankets or getting lost trying to find the cafeteria.
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It depends on where you volunteer vs. shadow. The radiologist I've shadowed, all we did was sit in his computer room and look at the xrays and he would diagnose the cases. It was interesting, but I definitely wanted to see more.

Now, if you volunteer at a more active site than folding blankets, I would say that is better than shadowing. Better yet, if you work as an ER Tech or Care Partner or CNA or something along those lines, you get even more exposed to the medical field
 
Aww, somebody can find anyone willing to let them shadow.
 
circulus vitios said:
Yeah, but I can do it better.
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Volunteering is a much bigger waste of time than shadowing. Yes, I'm getting a lot of genuine clinical experience from folding blankets or getting lost trying to find the cafeteria.
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Wrong. Volunteer in a position that lets you interact with patients as intimately as possible. That way you are doing things in addition to getting the ideal clinical experience necessary to get into medical school.

Don't be that guy. You know who I'm talking about. The prick who claims to have legitimate clinical experience from his in-depth work as a record keeper and receptionist greeter at a hospital. Maybe once in a while you got to ask a patient if he would like some water. Daunting task, I know.

I've got friends volunteering deep in the health care field. I not at their level yet, but they are taking the bull by its horns when it comes to legitimate volunteering. I'm talking about patient consulting regarding invasive/life-threatening procedures, collaborating with doctors as to the best treatment for patients with certain illnesses, and performing certain medical diagnoses on patients from disadvantaged backgrounds.
 
kmedbro88 said:
Wrong. Volunteer in a position that lets you interact with patients as intimately as possible. That way you are doing things in addition to getting the ideal clinical experience necessary to get into medical school.

Don't be that guy. You know who I'm talking about. The prick who claims to have legitimate clinical experience from his in-depth work as a record keeper and receptionist greeter at a hospital. Maybe once in a while you got to ask a patient if he would like some water. Daunting task, I know.

I've got friends volunteering deep in the health care field. I not at their level yet, but they are taking the bull by its horns when it comes to legitimate volunteering. I'm talking about patient consulting regarding invasive/life-threatening procedures, collaborating with doctors as to the best treatment for patients with certain illnesses, and performing certain medical diagnoses on patients from disadvantaged backgrounds.
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lol
 
kmedbro88 said:
I've got friends volunteering deep in the health care field. I not at their level yet, but they are taking the bull by its horns when it comes to legitimate volunteering. I'm talking about patient consulting regarding invasive/life-threatening procedures, collaborating with doctors as to the best treatment for patients with certain illnesses, and performing certain medical diagnoses on patients from disadvantaged backgrounds.
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Sounds ethical.
 
4/10

he's gotten some responses out of the community and I find that commendable. His post isn't subtle enough though.
 
Yeah, I saw the kind of bitterness and malice that OP is exhibiting a lot in my 700 hours at the ER😎
 
mohad said:
4/10

he's gotten some responses out of the community and I find that commendable. His post isn't subtle enough though.
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I couldn't in good conscience award any higher than a 2, as I believe that your ranking cannot exceed the number of posts made before you betray yourself. The first post could well have passed as the indignant mutterings of some self-righteous pre-med.... but the second post was too much.
 
kmedbro88 said:
I've got friends volunteering deep in the health care field. I not at their level yet, but they are taking the bull by its horns when it comes to legitimate volunteering. I'm talking about patient consulting regarding invasive/life-threatening procedures, collaborating with doctors as to the best treatment for patients with certain illnesses, and performing certain medical diagnoses on patients from disadvantaged backgrounds.
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This is so far outside the scope of what a pre-med student should be doing, it's not even funny. As a pre-med, your job is to prove that you are compassionate, intelligent, and legitimately interested in medicine. Your job is not to start learning to practice medicine. That's what medical school is for.
 
I got like 15-20 hours of shadowing... after I sent out my application.

Didn't seem like a very necessary thing to do... but good for your friends, OP.

edit: P.S. I was bragging about NOT shadowing and getting accepted into Med School. forgot to mention that fact....
 
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Believe what you want, but many of my friends are doing all this and more in their summer program treating impoverished peoples in Namibia and Zimbabwe.
 
Astarael said:
This is so far outside the scope of what a pre-med student should be doing, it's not even funny. As a pre-med, your job is to prove that you are compassionate, intelligent, and legitimately interested in medicine. Your job is not to start learning to practice medicine. That's what medical school is for.
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I think OP is a troll.
kmedbro88 said:
Believe what you want, but many of my friends are doing all this and more in their summer program treating impoverished peoples in Namibia and Zimbabwe.
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There are impoverished peoples in America, bro.
 
gettheleadout said:
There are impoverished peoples in America, bro.
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And somehow American lives are more important. There are people dying all over the world who desperately need humanitarian efforts to perhaps improve the quality of their lives by a slight amount. Are you honestly scorning my friends for their decision to do this?
 
this thread got really big really fast, but alas, obvious troll is obvious... I predict a plateau to this thread's post count in the near future
 
kmedbro88 said:
And somehow American lives are more important. There are people dying all over the world who desperately need humanitarian efforts to perhaps improve the quality of their lives by a slight amount. Are you honestly scorning my friends for their decision to do this?
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hop off your friends, bro. make something of yourself instead of bragging about them.
 
kmedbro88 said:
And somehow American lives are more important. There are people dying all over the world who desperately need humanitarian efforts to perhaps improve the quality of their lives by a slight amount. Are you honestly scorning my friends for their decision to do this?
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Totally, dude. It's the 4th of July! :laugh:

Voluntourism fails.

This whole thread is now a +pad+
 
Not everything is a troll post guys. Some people just post terrible threads (e.g. flatearth).
 
LuciusVorenus said:
Not everything is a troll post guys. Some people just post terrible threads (e.g. flatearth).
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lol his threads are so funny. I liked the one he posted the other day about that girl that went to oxford or something.
 
kmedbro88 said:
Believe what you want, but many of my friends are doing all this and more in their summer program treating impoverished peoples in Namibia and Zimbabwe.
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That doesn't do anything for them. It only serves to make you feel more important than you really are. Zimbabwe isn't going to have its problems solved by wave upon wave of do-gooding premeds 🙄 If anything, handout humanitarianism only makes the situation worse for countries like Zimbabwe. What they really need is a good foundation for them to build upon, so they can provide for themselves on their own (Melinda Gates Foundation is a good example of this).
 
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kmedbro88 said:
Believe what you want, but many of my friends are doing all this and more in their summer program treating impoverished peoples in Namibia and Zimbabwe.
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aSagacious said:
I don't know why I respond to posts like this... but anyway, this might be some informative reading for you. Enjoy.
https://www.aamc.org/download/181690/data/guidelinesforstudentsprovidingpatientcare.pdf
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Premedical and Medical students considering participating in an international medical service experience should review the following:
• The primary purpose of a student clinical experience is observation, not hands-on treatment. You are there to learn, not to treat.
• Always keep the welfare of the patient foremost in your mind, not the perceived opportunity for proving yourself.
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lolpwnt.
 
LuciusVorenus said:
Not everything is a troll post guys. Some people just post terrible threads (e.g. flatearth).
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Self-contradiction is the modus operandi of the troll. By kmedbro88, from the "Progress" thread:
Alright, I'm gonna be honest with you because you can't really trust many people on this forum. Unless you have a distinct affinity for the warm, sunny beaches of the Caribbean, you better up your game. Fast.

Not enough shadowing
Online tutor not even worth mentioning
Just sayin', trying to get a pub and getting a pub are 2 different things, yes med schools know the difference
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kmedbro88 said:
You do realize there are plenty of other people, or organisms that could do this? A child can, a dog can, a chimpanzee can...see a common theme?
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What about e. coli?

huh? huh?
 
kmedbro88 said:
I've got friends volunteering deep in the health care field. I not at their level yet, but they are taking the bull by its horns when it comes to legitimate volunteering. I'm talking about patient consulting regarding invasive/life-threatening procedures, collaborating with doctors as to the best treatment for patients with certain illnesses, and performing certain medical diagnoses on patients from disadvantaged backgrounds.
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IT'S LEGIT.

If you're a pre-med consulting with patients regarding invasive/life-threatening procedures and collaborating with doctors, then you're probably a liar. Or Frank Abagnale.

Doc of the Walk said:
It depends on where you volunteer vs. shadow. The radiologist I've shadowed, all we did was sit in his computer room and look at the xrays and he would diagnose the cases. It was interesting, but I definitely wanted to see more.
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"I went and shadowed a surgeon, and all he did was surgery."

What did you think radiologists did?
 
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