Struggling to pass calculus?

[PreMedMermaid]

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I feel so weird posting about this, because mostly everyone on here has bigger fish to fry, and I'm still stuck within the very beginning of the typical pre-med pre-reqs.

Anyway, story goes like this: I'm currently enrolled in my school's Calculus 1 course. Of course calc is tricky and confusing regardless of what school you take it at, but at mine it's NOTORIOUSLY known for being a super-weed-out where like half the class fails and everyone hates themselves afterward. Like, they literally make it ten times harder than it needs to be.

And I refuse to let myself be one of the weeds, you know?

I took AP Calculus in high school (both levels) but always struggled with it - I barely passed AB and failed the exam for BC, though my teachers still gave me A's and B's as class grades because they knew I was seriously trying to understand the material. Obviously that's not how it works in college, but my point is, this is my third year with this subject and I still don't know what I'm doing.

I'm enrolled in a third-party review program which includes online videos and practice packets. This program is tailored specifically to my school's version of the course. The parts of calc that I understand are mostly due to this program (or prior knowledge from high school).

On top of that, I've been tackling old exams that my professor has posted online. However, the questions are so tricky and convoluted that, despite the raw knowledge I have, I struggle to figure out how to apply it to the questions. The third-party program has video guides for each question on last year's exams, and I've watched about half of them so far, but even with their explanations a lot of it goes above my head because it's literally ridiculously complicated... I don't even know how to explain.

So, here's the problem. I need at least a B in this course. I don't care if I don't make an A, with this one course - I'd be very, very happy with a B.

I already bombed the first exam (like, a low F), but we're allowed to replace our lowest semester exam grade (out of 3 total) with whatever grade we get on the final exam (as well as it counting for the final exam grade itself) - so, theoretically, we get to drop our lowest score. My second exam is next week, but despite the amount of studying I've done/number of practice questions I've tackled, I don't feel like I'm making a lot of progress.

I can't drop the course because it'd put me under the number of credits required to be a "full-time" student, which would screw up virtually everything (scholarships, extracurriculars, etc.) as well as look sketchy to medical schools.

I technically do have AP credit for the course, which is considered pass/fail, but I know medical schools consider AP credit to be a joke as far as pre-reqs go, and ditto for pass/fail grades. Also, I'd still have this semester's grade on my transcript regardless.

Given everything... how do I actually figure out this math stuff so I can get a good grade and move on with my life??? I'm at a loss here, I'm desperate, and I don't know what to do at this point...

 

[AspiringERMD]

If you're going to fail it, I would withdraw (even if it puts you below full time... that's better than an F). Take it at a community college in the summer. Doing that for one class shouldn't be a big deal to med schools if you do decently at the CC.

This is calc 1? I'm curious, what's an example of something that you found to be overly complicated? Calc 1 was 10 years ago for me, but I recall it being pretty straightforward. That could absolutely just be time diluting/eliminating memories of any struggles I had with it, though. 🙂

 

[PreMedMermaid]

If you're going to fail it, I would withdraw (even if it puts you below full time... that's better than an F). Take it at a community college in the summer. Doing that for one class shouldn't be a big deal to med schools if you do decently at the CC.

This is calc 1? I'm curious, what's an example of something that you found to be overly complicated? Calc 1 was 10 years ago for me, but I recall it being pretty straightforward. That could absolutely just be time diluting/eliminating memories of any struggles I had with it, though. 🙂

No, but you don't understand. "Part-time" = basically broke/in extreme debt. Currently, I get enough scholarship money that at this rate I'll be able to graduate from undergrad with no debt and no loans. So that's a really, really big deal.

Right now we're doing stuff like derivatives of inverse functions, related rates, approximation by linearization, etc. I get the general concepts for most of it, but my professor's exam questions are written in a way that makes applying those concepts excruciatingly difficult unless you understand calculus front and back, sideways, upside down and backwards.

 

[GodComplex]

understand calculus front and back, sideways, upside down and backwards.

It sounds like you are already doing a lot, but you need to do enough until you can do what I quoted above. You said it yourself that you could do well with this level of understanding, so do whatever it takes to get to that level.

It may be doing more problems, repeating old problems you had trouble with, or maybe trying to study with some of the people that did well on the first exam. There are plenty of options, you just have to find what works for you.



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[MrLogan13]

The thing with calculus (and any math course) is to not just learn the mechanics of performing a calculation, but to understand what it is your are calculating and why the operation is performed that way--in other words, understand the underlying concept. If you only learn the mechanics of how to perform these operations then you tend to have a much harder time applying them to novel problems and more applied scenarios.

 

[moisne]

I don't think you are studying the right way... What you listed are not difficult concepts. You should be able to know the fundamentals of calculus inside and out.

Ie. Rather than memorizing the definition (words and equation) for a derivative, you should theoretically be able to rederive everything again yourself.

You are wrong if you think getting an F will allow you to keep your scholarship - I assume you have a GPA to maintain. So either way, you would lose money if you can't keep up - in addition getting F's do decrease your chances at med school - if that is your ultimate goal.

 

[Holmwood]

I feel so weird posting about this, because mostly everyone on here has bigger fish to fry, and I'm still stuck within the very beginning of the typical pre-med pre-reqs.

Anyway, story goes like this: I'm currently enrolled in my school's Calculus 1 course. Of course calc is tricky and confusing regardless of what school you take it at, but at mine it's NOTORIOUSLY known for being a super-weed-out where like half the class fails and everyone hates themselves afterward. Like, they literally make it ten times harder than it needs to be.

And I refuse to let myself be one of the weeds, you know?

I took AP Calculus in high school (both levels) but always struggled with it - I barely passed AB and failed the exam for BC, though my teachers still gave me A's and B's as class grades because they knew I was seriously trying to understand the material. Obviously that's not how it works in college, but my point is, this is my third year with this subject and I still don't know what I'm doing.

I'm enrolled in a third-party review program which includes online videos and practice packets. This program is tailored specifically to my school's version of the course. The parts of calc that I understand are mostly due to this program (or prior knowledge from high school).

On top of that, I've been tackling old exams that my professor has posted online. However, the questions are so tricky and convoluted that, despite the raw knowledge I have, I struggle to figure out how to apply it to the questions. The third-party program has video guides for each question on last year's exams, and I've watched about half of them so far, but even with their explanations a lot of it goes above my head because it's literally ridiculously complicated... I don't even know how to explain.

So, here's the problem. I need at least a B in this course. I don't care if I don't make an A, with this one course - I'd be very, very happy with a B.

I already bombed the first exam (like, a low F), but we're allowed to replace our lowest semester exam grade (out of 3 total) with whatever grade we get on the final exam (as well as it counting for the final exam grade itself) - so, theoretically, we get to drop our lowest score. My second exam is next week, but despite the amount of studying I've done/number of practice questions I've tackled, I don't feel like I'm making a lot of progress.

I can't drop the course because it'd put me under the number of credits required to be a "full-time" student, which would screw up virtually everything (scholarships, extracurriculars, etc.) as well as look sketchy to medical schools.

I technically do have AP credit for the course, which is considered pass/fail, but I know medical schools consider AP credit to be a joke as far as pre-reqs go, and ditto for pass/fail grades. Also, I'd still have this semester's grade on my transcript regardless.

Given everything... how do I actually figure out this math stuff so I can get a good grade and move on with my life??? I'm at a loss here, I'm desperate, and I don't know what to do at this point...

1) Look at patrickjmt videos on youtube to understand how things work. Then you will have to practice the book problems ALOT. There's really no other way. When I did it, I did all the problems they had in the book twice .

If you don't have a solutions manual, go get one. If you can't afford the book, download it. . . *cough*

2) Whatever you do, don't take any med prerequisites at a CC when you're already enrolled in a 4 year university... especially calculus. This could be seen as taking an easy way out. Same goes for summer courses. Some schools specifically state that they won't take calculus from a CC.

3) Stop saying ___ class is notoriously difficult. That kind of mentality only makes it feel okay to do badly, which traps you into doing an inadequate job.

4) If you're not confident about your ability to do well on the test, then study more! Study until you know calculus "front and back, sideways, upside down and backwards." Study until you are confident.

 

[SnakeOilForSale]

Most medical schools don't even require calculus so not sure why you didn't just use your AP credits.

The topics you listed are pretty straight forward. We all run into professors that are slightly more challenging but it's ultimately up to you to know and learn the material. Use khan academy, paul's online notes, and do every question in your book until you get it.

 

[altblue]

Most medical schools don't even require calculus so not sure why you didn't just use your AP credits.

The topics you listed are pretty straight forward. We all run into professors that are slightly more challenging but it's ultimately up to you to know and learn the material. Use khan academy, paul's online notes, and do every question in your book until you get it.

I dunno about OP but I think a lot of science majors require at least calc 1, though.

 

[efle]

More than 4/5ths of test takers for AP Calc BC passed, you probably are just very weak in Calculus (to the point where excessive studying will still leave you having trouble). Check your school's policy on retaking a course pass/fail and replacing a failing grade with a Pass (usually only requires a C-). Better to have a Pass than a C or C- weighing down your BCPM.

 

[FFH]

I highly highly recommend the book called calculus life saver. I'm no calculus genius, but after reading that godly book for about 20hrs, I got the highest score in class every time.

 

[edgerock24]

Most medical schools don't even require calculus so not sure why you didn't just use your AP credits.

This.

Also, Calculus is such a useless course for a premed. Take Stats/Biostats instead. Way more worthwhile.

 

[WhittyPsyche]

I hate math, like absolutely hate it. And my feelings towards it prevents me from grasping concepts at times because I'm defensive with it you could say.

That being said, Calculus took time for me to really understand. As mentioned above just knowing equations don't get you an A. The difficulty is knowing the concepts and when to apply what because your exams will not spoon feed you what operations should be done.

I did all practice problems, like all 80 questions or so after every chapter. And I used the Khan Academy throughout. After every section read I watched the corresponding video then did problems. Time consuming yes, but got me an A, which says a lot for some as inept as I am at math.

For the convulsed phrasing, exposure is your only answer. Keep exposing yourself to the question types and practice solving completely on your own. Don't look at solutions or explanations until all are completed. You will fool yourself I to thinking you understand when you don't if you don't finish the problem first.

 

[Conflagration]

If you can understand what a slope is and what area is, Calculus is not outside of your reach.

Essentially, a derivative is a measure of the slope on the parent function. Consider this-

If y = 2x, what is its derivative? Well, it's linear. The slope will always be 2. And that's its derivative.

You can calculate second, third, and more derivatives of functions as well. Back to what I was talking about earlier, if 2 is the first derivative, what is the second one? Well, 2 is a constant. It doesn't have any "rise", so the slope would be 0. (Conceptually, a second derivative is the measure of the slope for the first derivative.)

This is a simple example; I'm including a comprehensive cheat sheet that I found with Google (thanks Internet!).

Also consider- if you have a negative slope and a positive slope on a function, there has to be a point where the direction changes, right? The point where the direction of the slopes changes has a derivative equal to 0. That's why we set the derivative equal to zero when we're trying to find relative maxima and minima.

Related rates were hard for me, too. I'm not really a geometry person, which makes it even more difficult.

It really comes down to five steps:

1. Do you have a formula that helps you explain what's going on? (volume of a cone formula, pyramid, spheres, etc.)
2. What constants are you given?
3. What rate do you have?
4. What rate are you looking for?
5. How do they relate to each other? Solve.

Here's a PDF from a school with sample questions and answers.

I hope this helps you at least a little bit. Have a good day! 🙂

 

[FutureOncologist]

If you only need Calc I (i.e. just to go beyond the usual algebra requirement for most med schools), then go ahead and do it at a CC. If you were like me and needed Calc II for your degree, drop it and try again in the spring/next fall. I was stubborn and got a D in a course (refused to drop) and had to retake for an A. I thought my cGPA would be a 3.8 in AMCAS but it was lower. I beat myself up very hard when I was applying to med schools.

 

[SnakeOilForSale]

I dunno about OP but I think a lot of science majors require at least calc 1, though.

Yeah, but OP had AP credit that could have been used towards the major requirement. The only reason they didn't is because they assumed it was a prereq for all schools. Which it's not. Most schools require a semester of math but it doesn't have to be calculus.

 

[Lil Mick]

Do a lot of problems. If you don't get enough from class/book, you can find others online (including solved ones). In my experience teaching, students who do lots of problems eventually start to see patterns in the types of problems usually given on calculus exams.

This method tends to work for any math class, including some of the proof-based/computationally intensive ones I've encountered in graduate school for math.

 

[PreMedMermaid]

Thanks so much for all the support!!! I've been doing lots of practice problems these past few days.

A few of you noted that not all med schools require calculus - however, most do. Or at least, "highly recommend" it and most applicants have taken it, which means I'd need one semester's worth just to prove I'm capable.

I'm taking statistics next semester, as well as a second semester of statistics later on (my major/track requires 2 semesters, as well as 1 semester of calculus).

 

[lumpyduster]

I think you could be okay to drop. I've taken 4 semesters of calculus and I actually struggled with calc 1 the most (so embarrassing)! My professor made it all very theoretical. All well and good if you're a math major, but if you were someone like me who was more interested in applications... Well...

Does your school have any 8 or 6 week courses you could pick up if you dropped so you wouldn't go below full time? I've also found that a lot of schools accept AP credit. If you have access to the MSAR I'd check it out!

 

[blackroses]

Thanks so much for all the support!!! I've been doing lots of practice problems these past few days.

A few of you noted that not all med schools require calculus - however, most do. Or at least, "highly recommend" it and most applicants have taken it, which means I'd need one semester's worth just to prove I'm capable.

I'm taking statistics next semester, as well as a second semester of statistics later on (my major/track requires 2 semesters, as well as 1 semester of calculus).

Most schools do not require calculus. Only 12 do.

 

[estanton]

Talk to your advisor or registrar sometimes you can appeal to keep your scholarships if going under full time for just one semester.

I used my AP credit for calculus and it has not been a problem this cycle.

 

[soccerusa]

I know math can be tricky sometimes but passing calc I is basically just a matter of willpower. There will be much harder challenged on the road ahead so just buckle down and get it done. Not being able to handle calc I does not bode well for your success in any upper div science class.

 

[wayves]

Don't blame your school/professor/TAs. It's your own fault. Study harder.

 

[Ronald Kris]

don't be afraid to retake pre-calculus: calculus, if trig is in there, can have a serious bridge-like structure (ie missing pieces making getting across impossible). I'll presume trig is in there. Hire a tutor if you must. Failed credits is a waste of money, a lot more money than the 20 bucks and hour some grad student will charge you.

 

[TactFR44]

I feel so weird posting about this, because mostly everyone on here has bigger fish to fry, and I'm still stuck within the very beginning of the typical pre-med pre-reqs.

Anyway, story goes like this: I'm currently enrolled in my school's Calculus 1 course. Of course calc is tricky and confusing regardless of what school you take it at, but at mine it's NOTORIOUSLY known for being a super-weed-out where like half the class fails and everyone hates themselves afterward. Like, they literally make it ten times harder than it needs to be.

And I refuse to let myself be one of the weeds, you know?

I took AP Calculus in high school (both levels) but always struggled with it - I barely passed AB and failed the exam for BC, though my teachers still gave me A's and B's as class grades because they knew I was seriously trying to understand the material. Obviously that's not how it works in college, but my point is, this is my third year with this subject and I still don't know what I'm doing.

I'm enrolled in a third-party review program which includes online videos and practice packets. This program is tailored specifically to my school's version of the course. The parts of calc that I understand are mostly due to this program (or prior knowledge from high school).

On top of that, I've been tackling old exams that my professor has posted online. However, the questions are so tricky and convoluted that, despite the raw knowledge I have, I struggle to figure out how to apply it to the questions. The third-party program has video guides for each question on last year's exams, and I've watched about half of them so far, but even with their explanations a lot of it goes above my head because it's literally ridiculously complicated... I don't even know how to explain.

So, here's the problem. I need at least a B in this course. I don't care if I don't make an A, with this one course - I'd be very, very happy with a B.

I already bombed the first exam (like, a low F), but we're allowed to replace our lowest semester exam grade (out of 3 total) with whatever grade we get on the final exam (as well as it counting for the final exam grade itself) - so, theoretically, we get to drop our lowest score. My second exam is next week, but despite the amount of studying I've done/number of practice questions I've tackled, I don't feel like I'm making a lot of progress.

I can't drop the course because it'd put me under the number of credits required to be a "full-time" student, which would screw up virtually everything (scholarships, extracurriculars, etc.) as well as look sketchy to medical schools.

I technically do have AP credit for the course, which is considered pass/fail, but I know medical schools consider AP credit to be a joke as far as pre-reqs go, and ditto for pass/fail grades. Also, I'd still have this semester's grade on my transcript regardless.

Given everything... how do I actually figure out this math stuff so I can get a good grade and move on with my life??? I'm at a loss here, I'm desperate, and I don't know what to do at this point...

OP. I totally empathize with you on this. I went to a large university which had these classes as weed outs. My friends in engineering at that time even laughed at the cunning attempts the professors utilized to blatantly trick students. This was more prevalent in pre calc as opposed to calc 1. But regardless, I feel you. I earned As in both so here is my advice. Continue with the third party help. And practice almost exclusively with your professors practice exams. See how he/she tends to trick students. Learn the loopholes and profit. If it boils down to it, DONT BE scared to drop a class. Not a big deal. Just don't make a habit out of it. Good luck

 

[NorthernDO]

You're going to want to see the doctor, a calculus is a difficult and painful thing to pass mwuahahaha. jk

 

[deleted642188]

I feel so weird posting about this, because mostly everyone on here has bigger fish to fry, and I'm still stuck within the very beginning of the typical pre-med pre-reqs.

Anyway, story goes like this: I'm currently enrolled in my school's Calculus 1 course. Of course calc is tricky and confusing regardless of what school you take it at, but at mine it's NOTORIOUSLY known for being a super-weed-out where like half the class fails and everyone hates themselves afterward. Like, they literally make it ten times harder than it needs to be.

And I refuse to let myself be one of the weeds, you know?

I took AP Calculus in high school (both levels) but always struggled with it - I barely passed AB and failed the exam for BC, though my teachers still gave me A's and B's as class grades because they knew I was seriously trying to understand the material. Obviously that's not how it works in college, but my point is, this is my third year with this subject and I still don't know what I'm doing.

I'm enrolled in a third-party review program which includes online videos and practice packets. This program is tailored specifically to my school's version of the course. The parts of calc that I understand are mostly due to this program (or prior knowledge from high school).

On top of that, I've been tackling old exams that my professor has posted online. However, the questions are so tricky and convoluted that, despite the raw knowledge I have, I struggle to figure out how to apply it to the questions. The third-party program has video guides for each question on last year's exams, and I've watched about half of them so far, but even with their explanations a lot of it goes above my head because it's literally ridiculously complicated... I don't even know how to explain.

So, here's the problem. I need at least a B in this course. I don't care if I don't make an A, with this one course - I'd be very, very happy with a B.

I already bombed the first exam (like, a low F), but we're allowed to replace our lowest semester exam grade (out of 3 total) with whatever grade we get on the final exam (as well as it counting for the final exam grade itself) - so, theoretically, we get to drop our lowest score. My second exam is next week, but despite the amount of studying I've done/number of practice questions I've tackled, I don't feel like I'm making a lot of progress.

I can't drop the course because it'd put me under the number of credits required to be a "full-time" student, which would screw up virtually everything (scholarships, extracurriculars, etc.) as well as look sketchy to medical schools.

I technically do have AP credit for the course, which is considered pass/fail, but I know medical schools consider AP credit to be a joke as far as pre-reqs go, and ditto for pass/fail grades. Also, I'd still have this semester's grade on my transcript regardless.

Given everything... how do I actually figure out this math stuff so I can get a good grade and move on with my life??? I'm at a loss here, I'm desperate, and I don't know what to do at this point...

OP I know this is a frustrating class. I had to do engineering calculus because of schedule conflicts; at least you don't have that extra work. It was tedious/hard but doable. Here's a link if you think he's useful. I used him to reinforce the topics after lecture everyday day. His lectures are basic but will teach you the fundamentals! Also please do practice questions because practice is the only way to actually improve your skills in Math

 

[intangible]

You definitely go to FIU and you're probably taking Clutch or (less likely) UF and StudyEdge. Just study and do a ****-ton of similar problems to the test. There's no getting around that. You may end up having to take the F and subsequent GPA hit.

 

[freemontie]

Of course calc is tricky and confusing regardless of what school you take it at, but at mine it's NOTORIOUSLY known for being a super-weed-out where like half the class fails and everyone hates themselves afterward. Like, they literally make it ten times harder than it needs to be.

Are they making you do real analysis proofs? (yes...[sarcasm])

Show me a question in your calculus 1 class that makes it a "super-weed-out" class vs. you just sucking.

 

[TactFR44]

Are they making you do real analysis proofs? (yes...[sarcasm])

Show me a question in your calculus 1 class that makes it a "super-weed-out" class vs. you just sucking.

You really need to relax. You obviously have never attended a large university where you have specific WEED OUT classes. They exist.

 

[freemontie]

You really need to relax. You obviously have never attended a large university where you have specific WEED OUT classes. They exist.

The OP says he barely passed AB and failed BC. If someone is taking intro Calculus for the third time and still having trouble- than logic dictates that the trouble is with him/her. This is one of those very few cases where one can say "nuff said".

 

[TactFR44]

The OP says he barely passed AB and failed BC. If someone is taking intro Calculus for the third time and still having trouble- than logic dictates that the trouble is with him/her. This is one of those very few cases where one can say "nuff said".

"You just sucking". Is this really how you talk to people? I get it that we are on the internet and all but you are trying to be a doctor. I can predict that your patients are going to LOVE you. Discouraging others while their down is unnecessary. And in this case "nuff said". Go somewhere.

 

[AspiringERMD]

Are they making you do real analysis proofs? (yes...[sarcasm])

Show me a question in your calculus 1 class that makes it a "super-weed-out" class vs. you just sucking.

There actually are calc 1 and 2 classes that have some real analysis flavor to them. My sister's calc 2 class definitely had a lot of it. (I suspect it's more common in calc 2 than calc 1, though.)

 

[ProudMD]

I feel so weird posting about this, because mostly everyone on here has bigger fish to fry, and I'm still stuck within the very beginning of the typical pre-med pre-reqs.

Anyway, story goes like this: I'm currently enrolled in my school's Calculus 1 course. Of course calc is tricky and confusing regardless of what school you take it at, but at mine it's NOTORIOUSLY known for being a super-weed-out where like half the class fails and everyone hates themselves afterward. Like, they literally make it ten times harder than it needs to be.

And I refuse to let myself be one of the weeds, you know?

I took AP Calculus in high school (both levels) but always struggled with it - I barely passed AB and failed the exam for BC, though my teachers still gave me A's and B's as class grades because they knew I was seriously trying to understand the material. Obviously that's not how it works in college, but my point is, this is my third year with this subject and I still don't know what I'm doing.

I'm enrolled in a third-party review program which includes online videos and practice packets. This program is tailored specifically to my school's version of the course. The parts of calc that I understand are mostly due to this program (or prior knowledge from high school).

On top of that, I've been tackling old exams that my professor has posted online. However, the questions are so tricky and convoluted that, despite the raw knowledge I have, I struggle to figure out how to apply it to the questions. The third-party program has video guides for each question on last year's exams, and I've watched about half of them so far, but even with their explanations a lot of it goes above my head because it's literally ridiculously complicated... I don't even know how to explain.

So, here's the problem. I need at least a B in this course. I don't care if I don't make an A, with this one course - I'd be very, very happy with a B.

I already bombed the first exam (like, a low F), but we're allowed to replace our lowest semester exam grade (out of 3 total) with whatever grade we get on the final exam (as well as it counting for the final exam grade itself) - so, theoretically, we get to drop our lowest score. My second exam is next week, but despite the amount of studying I've done/number of practice questions I've tackled, I don't feel like I'm making a lot of progress.

I can't drop the course because it'd put me under the number of credits required to be a "full-time" student, which would screw up virtually everything (scholarships, extracurriculars, etc.) as well as look sketchy to medical schools.

I technically do have AP credit for the course, which is considered pass/fail, but I know medical schools consider AP credit to be a joke as far as pre-reqs go, and ditto for pass/fail grades. Also, I'd still have this semester's grade on my transcript regardless.

Given everything... how do I actually figure out this math stuff so I can get a good grade and move on with my life??? I'm at a loss here, I'm desperate, and I don't know what to do at this point...

OP, you have AP credit for AP calculus? Drop the course immediately and take the W.

Virtually all medical schools accept AP credit for the math prerequisite. AP credits don't count for most of the sciences, but calculus is entirely different.

 

[freemontie]

"You just sucking". Is this really how you talk to people? I get it that we are on the internet and all but you are trying to be a doctor. I can predict that your patients are going to LOVE you. Discouraging others while their down is unnecessary. And in this case "nuff said". Go somewhere.

Yeah I can see how I was unnecessarily rude. But still, someone probably should discourage the OP for her own good before she ends up with a C or D. The idea that it's a super weed out class and she refuses to be a weed is false and counterproductive, respectively.

 

[FFH]

Yeah I can see how I was unnecessarily rude. [/SIZE]

More people on SDN can benefit from similar self reflective vision.
And frankly I agree. Although Calculus itself might not be useful, but one should consider other careers if he or she can't find the ways to pass calculus I. Maybe something that doesn't require the logical part of the brain so much? like polisci? 😉 jking people. Jking. 😛