Student Representation on Disciplinary/Promotion Board

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Does anyone's school have this? If so can you tell me about how those individuals are selected and the general details of how this is handled?

We are trying to propose this at our school and just want some road mapping.

 

[slowthai]

They pick the ones with the highest mean number of sucking noises and reports of other students for using third party resource google drives. They are, what I lovingly call, "admin gunners"

 

[Neopolymath]

Dangerous game. Gotta find someone who isn't a bootlicker each time a new person is needed. It's kinda like politics and teaching. Unfortunately, many of the best people for both of these jobs just aren't interested and some of the people interested are really bad for the job.

Devil's advocate: Your admin puts a student on the board (with no real rights, of course) and now any decision is unrefutable. The admin just says," you have your student representation so it's fair. You had your voice heard" even if it's a total BS decision. Many schools have this problem. Many medical organizations with students sitting on them have this problem.

 

[Redpancreas]

Does anyone's school have this? If so can you tell me about how those individuals are selected and the general details of how this is handled?

We are trying to propose this at our school and just want some road mapping.

Yes. Most schools do. There should be student representation on the promotions, admissions, curriculum, professionalism, and a few other committees.

Your job as a student representative is to attend the committee meetings and then report to the student senate. If I remember correctly, the senate will ask applicants to apply. If multiple people do, there may have to be an election process through student senate.

I think as alluded to above there is an aspect where leadership roles select for undesirable characteristics. I think the best people for the job are people who want something on their resume, but just do the job without any flair. They realize the system’s not changing with their actions, but they show up to meetings and represent what students are saying honestly without editorializing things for their own ego.

 

[pawprint]

“You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master” -Mace Windu

 

[Angus Avagadro]

I find that students evaluating applicants for med school who they meet on tours and interviews are tougher on the applicants than the faculty. I suspect this phenomenon would occur on the promotion committee. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

We have student-elected ethics representatives who are somehow involved in some aspect of disciplinary things but I don't know exactly how (thankfully never had first hand experience)

 

[bGMx]

I think its useful to have students on a committee like this. If not but only to make sure that the committee has an immediate tap into the temperature of the student body.

 

[Redpancreas]

I think its useful to have students on a committee like this. If not but only to make sure that the committee has an immediate tap into the temperature of the student body.

Agreed. It’s tough for 1-2 students to represent an entire student body while studying, etc. My class size was 250+ and I was on one of these committees and the one thing I’d wish I’d done better was just strictly represent students. I tried to inject my own opinions/initiatives at times and really that’s not what you’re there to do. In terms of sway, you do get one vote (often split between two ppl) but it really isn’t much in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of influence, faculty will listen and if faculty they like your ideas they’ll mention them as their own. In terms of students being tougher on each other, I could see it going both ways.

 

[kopftonmd]

At my institution, there are actually two separate committees that work in this realm.

We have an honor code committee, which (as the name implies) administrates the student honor code that we all sign when we come in. No faculty on it, they investigate more low-level issues and then write resolutions that are passed to the deans, who may either move the issue to a different committee or approve/enact them.

Then we have a promotion/discipline committee (some acronym I can never remember) that is faculty, deans and students. Most of the deans and the students do not have voting privileges but my understanding is that they are able to ask questions/engage in discussion/etc. and are well-respected.

 

[Phloston]

Does anyone's school have this? If so can you tell me about how those individuals are selected and the general details of how this is handled?

We are trying to propose this at our school and just want some road mapping.

At my medical school, the president of the medical society, who was almost always a 4th-year student elected by all students at the school, had more or less a nominal role on this type of committee - i.e., sitting on some Peer & Professional Development meetings, etc.

As far as I'm aware, however, if students had serious disciplinary situations transpiring, they'd meet with just administrators.