Sublimation versus Boiling

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There is a difference between sublimation and boiling that I'm not understanding.

EK 1001 Physics #506:
Under what conditions does a solid sublimate?
Answer: The vapor pressure of the solid must be greater than the partial pressure of its vapor above it

EK 1001 Physics #507:
Under what conditions does a liquid boil?
Answer: The vapor pressure of the liquid must be greater than the total pressure of the gas above it

So one is "greater than partial pressure" and one is "greater than total pressure." What's going on here?
 
Going out on a limb here.

For boiling, vapor pressure of liquid is greater than atmospheric pressure. If you lower atmospheric pressure you can boil water at a temp less than 100C.

For sublimation, I see it as when vapor pressure of solid is greater than atmospheric pressure.
This is how the solid can go straight to gas from solid.

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Actually now that I think about it a little bit more, sublimation is when solid VP > the vapor pressure of its vapor makes some sense.

I just have no way of explaining it effectively.
What other answer choices were given for the question? Perhaps it's one of those that you get after eliminating all the wrong answer choices.
 
One of the answer choices was that for sublimation, it's VP has to be greater than the total VP above it. I'm just not understanding why this is the case for boiling but not the case for sublimation. Any way you can help me understand that?
 
EK 1001 Physics #506:

EK 1001 Physics #507:​

I believe these two questions are out of the EK 1001 Chem book, and not the physics book...

Water mainly undergoes vaporization in two ways-evaporation and boiling. Evaporation is possible for a range of temperatures when water is liquid, and is primarily a surface phenomenon, and will proceed (at a given temperature) until the rate at which molecules are escaping the liquid equals the rate at which they come crashing back down. This is usually defined as the characteristic vapor pressure of the substance. If the liquid is open to the air (the atmosphere), the vapor pressure just adds, as another partial pressure, to the overall atmospheric pressure pushing down on it.

Boiling is a related, but different, story. For the liquid to boil, the vapor cannot just remain a tiny fraction of the local pressure above the liquid, and thermal energy must be added to it to increase the partial pressure of the vapor until it equals the atmospheric pressure pushing down. At this point the surface-type evaporation becomes a bulk vaporization, and the entire mass is free to eventually convert into the gas phase, which is why you can see bubbles forming and floating up to the top from within a pot of boiling water, and not just from the surface as in evaporation. This is why the the vapor pressure MUST equal the total pressure, and is also why boiling water at higher altitudes (lower pressures) may require less time and energy input.

For the question on sublimation, the vapor pressure will be between the solid and it's corresponding vapor. This is nice because it already puts things in terms of sublimation, which happens to be a solid transitioning into a gas. You can't really copy-and-paste the concepts of boiling from liquid-gas equilibria in here, think of boiling more as a special case of evaporation, where molecules anywhere (not just on the surface) in the condensed phase are free to vaporize. Sublimation is simply saying that the solid is becoming a gas; therefore the rate at which the vapor is forming must be greater than the rate at which it is becoming solid again, regardless of how the actual partial pressure of the vapor compares to atmospheric pressure, as in boiling. Simple equilibrium problem here, in reality. I hope this helps. 👍
 
That helps a bit, thanks for a thorough explanation. But I still have some confusion. I followed what you said about boiling/evaporation, and why full vapor pressure must be reached. But I'm still not getting why what you wrote about sublimation merits the need to only reach partial vapor pressure.

In both cases, it is a non-vapor turning to a vapor.
 
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