Submit an unpublished manuscript as writing sample on an application?

[SomedaySoonNY]

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[deleted462159]

I wouldn't. There must be other things you have written. But if you must, perhaps you can make them sign a non-disclosure agreement?

 

[Ya Ya]

Is it possible to submit the manuscript first?

 

[Doctor Eliza]

Also, you are first author, but not sole author right? I would think that if they are asking for a writing sample, it needs to be your work alone.

Dr. E

 

[Ya Ya]

Agreed.

 

[Ollie123]

I'm not sure what stage of their career the OP is in, but I can't imagine a first author manuscript not being acceptable as a writing sample. As a grad student I don't know what on earth else I could submit - I can't imagine anyplace wanting a paper from some class I took two years ago instead of an actual manuscript. Nearly everything I've seen that asked for one specifically says that is okay (as long as you are first author), though I suppose whether or not they should is another matter.

As for whether to send - if it were me I would send the paper and just explicitly state it has not yet been published and request that it should not be cited/distributed. I'm not as cautious about such things as some, and that is perhaps driven by the sort of research I do since there is really no way someone could just up and plagiarize our work (too big a paper trail, would be amazingly easy to get caught) and I don't worry about getting scooped because a lot of our stuff is too highly specialized (i.e. unlikely someone else has similar data on hand) and data collection can take thousands of man-hours. Depending on the type of manuscript, this may be an important consideration (i.e. if its a review).

I'm also perhaps naively trusting, unless I have an explicit reason not to be.

 

[Pragma]

I'm not sure what stage of their career the OP is in, but I can't imagine a first author manuscript not being acceptable as a writing sample. As a grad student I don't know what on earth else I could submit - I can't imagine anyplace wanting a paper from some class I took two years ago instead of an actual manuscript. Nearly everything I've seen that asked for one specifically says that is okay (as long as you are first author), though I suppose whether or not they should is another matter.

As for whether to send - if it were me I would send the paper and just explicitly state it has not yet been published and request that it should not be cited/distributed. I'm not as cautious about such things as some, and that is perhaps driven by the sort of research I do since there is really no way someone could just up and plagiarize our work (too big a paper trail, would be amazingly easy to get caught) and I don't worry about getting scooped because a lot of our stuff is too highly specialized (i.e. unlikely someone else has similar data on hand) and data collection can take thousands of man-hours. Depending on the type of manuscript, this may be an important consideration (i.e. if its a review).

I'm also perhaps naively trusting, unless I have an explicit reason not to be.

Yeah, I wonder what the OP means by "great opportunity in research"

I can't imagine what I WOULD use other than a publication for this sort of thing. However, if it is an undergraduate type of opportunity, then a course paper may be appropriate. Really depends on the context here.

 

[SomedaySoonNY]

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[Pragma]

Thanks everyone for the input. By "great opportunity", I meant a great opportunity for me to work with a prof doing some exciting research in an area that I'm interested in. In terms of the writing, I did all of the writing with editing and feedback from my prof. There are other authors listed because of their contributions to the larger study that I am pulling my data from. I just graduated from a master's program and my project is the result of a NIH supplement to the larger study I completed during my master's program. This is my first manuscript and I don't think a paper from class would really help my application.

I would just be clear about what it is when you apply.

 

[Doctor Eliza]

When I responded, I incorrectly assumed you were looking at undergrad-type opportunities.

That said, it sounds like you could just ask the prof what sort of writing sample she or he had in mind, right?

I don't know how long it is, but how about your master's thesis as an alternative?

Hope you get the opportunity!


Dr. E