Super impressive app + waitlists = Game theory? Is my hypothesis correct?

[qwert12345]

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First, please don't judge me by this thread saying that I am not a good fit for schools because my personality is arrogant and a big turn off. It's not. This is a forum to seek out answers to pre-medical questions, and that is what I am using it for. Yes, I understand that the nature of this question might come off as arrogant but that is in no way my intention. I am genuinely concerned. Thus, I humbly ask for everyone's honest opinion on why they think I am getting waitlisted at so many medical schools.

The question: Why am I getting the waitlisted at many of the schools not in the "top 10?"

My hypothesis: Because schools don't think I will attend and therefore don't want to hurt their stats and are waiting for me to show extreme interest or intent.

But I dont want to send intent letters because quite frankly I am very open minded and don't have one particular school in mind. Many things about many different schools are wonderful. But then how do I show these "lower ranked" schools that I am serious about attending?

Also, lets just assume my application is perfect - If you want more info, PM me - both on paper (mcat/gpa/extracurrics/LORs) and with regards to the intangibles (personality, humility). I have had many interviewers tell me something along the lines of "so you could get into any medical school you want."

Also note, I interviewed late in the process and have not heard back from any "top top" schools yet, and that the waitlisting as at schools outside of the top 10. No rejections post interview (yet).

 

[DoctwoB]

I'd say that your answer is partially correct but is far from the whole story.

It is true a school would rather not use an acceptance spot on you if they're sure you won't attend, but they'd also rather not use an interview spot (those are limited as well) on someone they don't think will attend. Some mid-tier schools are known for rejecting very top applicants pre-interview so that they won't waste an interview spot.

On the other hand, schools are looking for more than a perfect resume in terms of MCAT/GPA/volunteering/research. They are also looking for whether they think your values and personality "fit" with the mission of the institution, and they may think that you're not a great fit for their school. This doesn't mean you have a horrible personality, but its not the type their looking for in their class.

 

[tallandshort]

I would try letters of interest for all the schools that waitlisted you, put your application on hold (pre or post interview), or where you are still in the running but have yet to receive an interview invite. Notice the difference between letters of interest vs. intent. LOinterest basically makes a case for why you are a good fit for the school and why the school is a good fit for you. You can let the schools know how interested in them you are without making any promises to matriculate if accepted. LOintent makes a promise saying you will withdraw from all other schools and matriculate at their school if accepted. Also, I would include any significant updates along with LOinterest to all of these schools. Lastly, be patient. It's quite possible you will hear good news from one of the schools that you have already itnerviewed at. Good luck!

 

[rockymhs]

I wanted to comfort myself like you did in regards to not getting any interviews other than from my state school based on my GPA and MCAT score.

However, now I understand that I fail. There are just too many outstanding applicants out there who deserved interview seats that I wanted.

 

[bobsmith]

The question: Why am I getting the waitlisted at many of the schools not in the "top 10?"

My hypothesis: Because schools don't think I will attend and therefore don't want to hurt their stats and are waiting for me to show extreme interest or intent.

Regarding your hypothesis, I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that you're making the assumption that the only thing that put you on the waitlist is the fact that you "won't attend." Assuming this is true, there's still two things that stick out at me:

First, there has to be a reason that schools "don't think you will attend." I don't think you explicitly stated this, but it seems like you're implying that the reason they think you won't attend is that you'll likely get into another school (a top 10) and choose to go there over them.

However, I think it's your job during your interview and secondary applications to talk about why you would want to attend that school. If you're the perfect applicant and a perfect match for that school's mission, you should make it clear that that is the case.

There's a lot of really outstanding applicants every year (many of whom are on this site and could be considered very close to that "perfect applicant" you talked about) and plenty of them have gotten into non top 10 schools (in addition to the top 10 schools they did get into). So it's not a blanket policy that applies to all outstanding applicants.

Secondly, if the only reason they're waitlisting you is because they think you'll go to a "better" school, it seems like schools would be more likely to accept you and try to lure you away somehow (with a scholarship, maybe) rather than waitlist you in the hopes that you don't get in elsewhere.

But then how do I show these "lower ranked" schools that I am serious about attending?

Talk in interviews about programs at the schools that you're really interested in and things you could see yourself doing, what made you apply to the program. If you get waitlisted, send a letter saying you're disappointed in the waitlist, that you're genuinely interested in the program (if you are), and update them on any new things. It doesn't have to be a "letter of intent" but it can still help.

Good luck!

 

[armybound]

If schools only accepted those they thought would attend, they wouldn't ever offer spots to the students they WANT. It doesn't hurt a school at all to accept the 4.0/40 student only to have them decline the seat. There's a waitlist for a reason. It's in the best interest of every school to pursue the best students for its class.

I'm sure some schools do consider the likelihood of a student enrolling at their school, but I have a hard time believing it's a major factor.

 

[MiniMoo]

I agree with what those above me have already said. It's likely you weren't able to convincingly convey your passion and interest in the school or there's something else about your application that isn't exactly "perfect" - like LORs, interview, essays, fit.

 

[bannie22]

No, totally wrong. Once you go for an interview. The schools want you unless you demonstrate that you are not fit to be a doctor (or at least at their medical school).

You think a school will waste time calling you in for an interview if they arent sincere in accepting you?

You're just not right for those schools. And you will probably get into the "top top" school you suggested since you are so confident anyway! So theres nothing to worry!

 

[morning]

Perhaps you put off a distinct impression of only wanting to attend the school because it is a ~*Top 10*~ institution.

 

[MilkmanAl]

No, totally wrong. Once you go for an interview. The schools want you unless you demonstrate that you are not fit to be a doctor (or at least at their medical school).

You think a school will waste time calling you in for an interview if they arent sincere in accepting you?

I think that's a bit off the mark, my friend. Some schools may work that way and use the interview as some sort of monolithic process, but most use it as just another part of your application. They interview people they could possibly accept. It's definitely not a "don't screw up, and you're in" kind of deal. From all I've read, very few schools select interviewees and then toss out the rest of those students' apps to let the interview stand on its own.

 

[Steeler7588]

It doesn't hurt a school at all to accept the 4.0/40 student only to have them decline the seat.

1) When considering whom to interview, whether or not an applicant will decline is very much a consideration.
2) Once a school interviews someone, there is still a way a school can be hurt: yield protection. This is a more superficial reason, but it can ultimately affect how a school is perceived (in the rankings).

 

[Morsetlis]

UCSD accepts ~50% of interviewees.
NYMC accepts ~10% of interviewees.

It differs from school to school.

 

[MilkmanAl]

When considering whom to interview, whether or not an applicant will decline is very much a consideration.

I can see that being true at some state schools and possibly at the private schools that get craploads of applications (GU, GWU, Drexel, etc.). Other than that, I doubt there's much consideration for an applicant's intentions where probability of attendance is concerned.

 

[apumic]

If this were LAW, yes. Med schools? Seems to be much less common.

Fact is, you probably weren't the best fit. It sucks but it's reality. A lot has to do w/ how you were perceived on interview day and perhaps someone mentioned a yellow/red flag about how you acted outside the interview room (e.g., at lunch) and that got you waitlisted. Or perhaps your host found you a bit high and mighty or perceived your "openness" about which school to attend to be off-putting or lacking in interest for the current school and made mention of it at some point and it made its way to someone involved in admissions. Could be a variety of reasons, but hedging their bets...not likely. Med schools don't really get penalized for being turned down by an applicant (i.e., most students aren't even aware of just how many acceptances are given out per matriculant -- that's relatively difficult data to come by, not impossible, but not as readily available as matriculance rates).

 

[bannie22]

I think that's a bit off the mark, my friend. Some schools may work that way and use the interview as some sort of monolithic process, but most use it as just another part of your application. They interview people they could possibly accept. It's definitely not a "don't screw up, and you're in" kind of deal. From all I've read, very few schools select interviewees and then toss out the rest of those students' apps to let the interview stand on its own.

I dont think I'm suggesting that you dont screw up and you're in.

I'm suggesting that nobody will bring you in for an interview unless that think you are good enough for them.

And obviously in this case OP is not.

 

[Musclemass]

Perhaps you put off a distinct impression of only wanting to attend the school because it is a ~*Top 10*~ institution.

This is another way of saying arrogant.

Maybe you suck at interviewing?

I also agree with apumac and milkmanal.

 

[longhorn09]

OP you are not alone. Search the user "onlyneedoneyes" in this forum.

 

[Steeler7588]

I can see that being true at some state schools and possibly at the private schools that get craploads of applications (GU, GWU, Drexel, etc.). Other than that, I doubt there's much consideration for an applicant's intentions where probability of attendance is concerned.

I definitely agree that for the types of schools you mentioned it's most true. But when you look at even some of the most competitive schools showing a regional bias, I think there's at least a little consideration. Obviously, the more competitive a school is, the less this is true.

 

[armybound]

1) When considering whom to interview, whether or not an applicant will decline is very much a consideration.
2) Once a school interviews someone, there is still a way a school can be hurt: yield protection. This is a more superficial reason, but it can ultimately affect how a school is perceived (in the rankings).

If a person pays to submit an application to a school, I'd take it as a sign of good faith that they would consider enrolling at that school. Why else would they waste their money?

Either way, you're talking about a different level of the application cycle (pre-interview). That's all taken from an initial assessment of the person's file. If an applicant has spent their whole life in the Northeast and all of a sudden decides they want to apply to Hawaii, Hawaii has to consider if that person is going to really serve their state and people for good.
If Hawaii decides that they have reason to believe the applicant really is serious about meeting the medical needs of their state, what's to stop them from accepting that applicant if the interview and application lined up well for their needs? As you say, the only real thing stopping them is not wanting to send out too many acceptances--but that should be of little concern to the school. They want the best students for their school, not the ones who are most likely to keep their acceptance so they don't have to send any others out.

Now I have actually seen applicants get dinged because of the schools they applied to and their attitude in the interview. The interviewer basically said it was pretty obvious they intended to go to a "top 10" school. I believe the committee still gave the applicant a pretty decent outcome, but it did dock them considerably because of that attitude.

 

[ucladoc2b]

UCSD accepts ~50% of interviewees.
NYMC accepts ~10% of interviewees.

It differs from school to school.

NYMC is closer to 50% as well (700/1300).

 

[jerew]

OK, can someone fill me in on this onlyneedoneyes thing? Back when I posted a "What are my chances" someone wrote "paging onlyneedoneyes." I did a username search, but nothing... Was this a person with a stellar app and for some reason, only waitlists? There seem to be a lot of people on SDN that know about onlyneedoneyes.

 

[MiniMoo]

OK, can someone fill me in on this onlyneedoneyes thing? Back when I posted a "What are my chances" someone wrote "paging onlyneedoneyes." I did a username search, but nothing... Was this a person with a stellar app and for some reason, only waitlists? There seem to be a lot of people on SDN that know about onlyneedoneyes.

I think he had a 3.9, 39 MCAT and ended up finally getting in off a waitlist.

 

[bannie22]

I think he had a 3.9, 39 MCAT and ended up finally getting in off a waitlist.

3.9/39... that aint too smexy... meanymoo 😛 do you know whether he had pubs?

 

[bobsmith]

OK, can someone fill me in on this onlyneedoneyes thing? Back when I posted a "What are my chances" someone wrote "paging onlyneedoneyes." I did a username search, but nothing... Was this a person with a stellar app and for some reason, only waitlists? There seem to be a lot of people on SDN that know about onlyneedoneyes.

His last username was OnlyNeedOneYes, I think his current username is WashMe now.

I don't think he had the "perfect application" as described in the OP, but seeing as how SDN drools over high numbers...

 

[Catalystik]

Also note, I interviewed late in the process and have not heard back from any "top top" schools yet,

When did you submit? When were you complete at all the schools?

 

[Narmerguy]

No, totally wrong. Once you go for an interview. The schools want you unless you demonstrate that you are not fit to be a doctor (or at least at their medical school).

You think a school will waste time calling you in for an interview if they arent sincere in accepting you?

You're just not right for those schools. And you will probably get into the "top top" school you suggested since you are so confident anyway! So theres nothing to worry!

Simply not true. Some schools are very stingy about interviews, others aren't. An offer to interview is usually a chance to add another angle to your application. At some schools, once you get there, everyone is considered equal and any other factors are mostly ignored. At some others, they still take the interview as a portion of the greater application. Either way, it doesn't always mean that they want you to attend at that point.

Biggest thing on SDN that some people tend to ignore: Many schools handle admissions differently. They want different stuff, they do stuff differently, they say stuff differently.

 

[longhorn09]

His last username was OnlyNeedOneYes, I think his current username is WashMe now.

I don't think he had the "perfect application" as described in the OP, but seeing as how SDN drools over high numbers...

Ohhhhh.....I didn't know that WashMe is ONOY until now...

No wonder I dun see ONOY around this site anymore lately...

 

[jerew]

Oh wow, I'm putting it all together and I think I met ONOY at the Wash U interview. His application description seems exactly like ONOY, and I see he is at Wash U...

Haha, I've also met shemarty in person, so I feel like I've brushed up with some of the great SDN celebs!

 

[bannie22]

Simply not true. Some schools are very stingy about interviews, others aren't. An offer to interview is usually a chance to add another angle to your application. At some schools, once you get there, everyone is considered equal and any other factors are mostly ignored. At some others, they still take the interview as a portion of the greater application. Either way, it doesn't always mean that they want you to attend at that point.

Biggest thing on SDN that some people tend to ignore: Many schools handle admissions differently. They want different stuff, they do stuff differently, they say stuff differently.

Totally taking my quote out of context.🙄 I earlier reemphasized that I am not suggesting that the interview is a be all end all thing.
However, if they are interviewing you, it means that they would be interested in you attending. Why on earth would anyone interview you if they were going to waitlist from the beginning anyway?
That makes utterly no sense.

However, data from the interview is used to remove people that do not qualify.

Get the drift? Just because you do not meet the NO ACCEPT bin, doesnt mean you meet the ACCEPT pile...

Gosh.

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

Also, lets just assume my application is perfect...

Your whole argument is invalid because this assumption is incorrect.

If this application cycle does not work out, you are going to need some better introspection and self-critique skills.

 

[WashMe]

OP you are not alone. Search the user "onlyneedoneyes" in this forum.

...

I think he had a 3.9, 39 MCAT and ended up finally getting in off a waitlist.

I got off the WL at WashU and Pitt. I didn't get off the WL at OSU and Cincy.

3.9/39... that aint too smexy... meanymoo 😛 do you know whether he had pubs?

At the time, I had a 2nd author pub and some poster presentations.

His last username was OnlyNeedOneYes, I think his current username is WashMe now.

I don't think he had the "perfect application" as described in the OP, but seeing as how SDN drools over high numbers...

👍

Ohhhhh.....I didn't know that WashMe is ONOY until now...

No wonder I dun see ONOY around this site anymore lately...

I had to mix it up.

Oh wow, I'm putting it all together and I think I met ONOY at the Wash U interview. His application description seems exactly like ONOY, and I see he is at Wash U...

Haha, I've also met shemarty in person, so I feel like I've brushed up with some of the great SDN celebs!

I've been unmasked! Pizza party? Hopefully I was well behaved...

 

[Morsetlis]

^ What on earth did you do wrong?

 

[WashMe]

^ What on earth did you do wrong?

Me? Well, the main problem was applying very narrowly. Basically, I applied in July to OSU, Cincy (OH resident), and 6 other schools that were all top 15 schools. I figured on getting into OSU and Cincy no problem, and I was terribly wrong.

By December, I hadn't gotten in anywhere and I added Michigan and Case + Cleveland Clinic right before the deadline. Out of those three, I was interviewed at CCLCM less than a month later but I was rejected.

After that, I lined up more letters of rec and beefed up my app for 3 months to reapply, but I got into Pitt in April. WashU acceptance came in May.

My stats and my research were definitely top notch, but I was pretty lacking in clinical experiences... I think my interviews sunk me at OSU and Cincy. Be on the lookout for a Dr. Taxier at OSU, he'll tear you to pieces. Also, I just didn't get the MMI thing.

 

[VOP]

Me? Well, the main problem was applying very narrowly. Basically, I applied in July to OSU, Cincy (OH resident), and 6 other schools that were all top 15 schools. I figured on getting into OSU and Cincy no problem, and I was terribly wrong.

By December, I hadn't gotten in anywhere and I added Michigan and Case + Cleveland Clinic right before the deadline. Out of those three, I was interviewed at CCLCM less than a month later but I was rejected.

After that, I lined up more letters of rec and beefed up my app for 3 months to reapply, but I got into Pitt in April. WashU acceptance came in May.

My stats and my research were definitely top notch, but I was pretty lacking in clinical experiences... I think my interviews sunk me at OSU and Cincy. Be on the lookout for a Dr. Taxier at OSU, he'll tear you to pieces. Also, I just didn't get the MMI thing.

joined 2008...2nd year @ Wash U?

 

[longhorn09]

Me? Well, the main problem was applying very narrowly. Basically, I applied in July to OSU, Cincy (OH resident), and 6 other schools that were all top 15 schools. I figured on getting into OSU and Cincy no problem, and I was terribly wrong.

By December, I hadn't gotten in anywhere and I added Michigan and Case + Cleveland Clinic right before the deadline. Out of those three, I was interviewed at CCLCM less than a month later but I was rejected.

After that, I lined up more letters of rec and beefed up my app for 3 months to reapply, but I got into Pitt in April. WashU acceptance came in May.

My stats and my research were definitely top notch, but I was pretty lacking in clinical experiences... I think my interviews sunk me at OSU and Cincy. Be on the lookout for a Dr. Taxier at OSU, he'll tear you to pieces. Also, I just didn't get the MMI thing.

Man, I wish I can go to WashU too. And then I can see the legendary ONOY in person!😀😀

 

[longhorn09]

joined 2008...2nd year @ Wash U?

He's MS1 right now.

 

[JoshUNCW]

First, please don't judge me by this thread saying that I am not a good fit for schools because my personality is arrogant and a big turn off. It's not. This is a forum to seek out answers to pre-medical questions, and that is what I am using it for. Yes, I understand that the nature of this question might come off as arrogant but that is in no way my intention. I am genuinely concerned. Thus, I humbly ask for everyone's honest opinion on why they think I am getting waitlisted at so many medical schools.

The question: Why am I getting the waitlisted at many of the schools not in the "top 10?"

My hypothesis: Because schools don't think I will attend and therefore don't want to hurt their stats and are waiting for me to show extreme interest or intent.

But I dont want to send intent letters because quite frankly I am very open minded and don't have one particular school in mind. Many things about many different schools are wonderful. But then how do I show these "lower ranked" schools that I am serious about attending?

Also, lets just assume my application is perfect - If you want more info, PM me - both on paper (mcat/gpa/extracurrics/LORs) and with regards to the intangibles (personality, humility). I have had many interviewers tell me something along the lines of "so you could get into any medical school you want."

Also note, I interviewed late in the process and have not heard back from any "top top" schools yet, and that the waitlisting as at schools outside of the top 10. No rejections post interview (yet).

arrogant post + "please don't judge me" + 1 post user count = troll?
hmm...

 

[coldblood]

if everything is perfect then why would u want to attend lower tier schools in first place. if the school interviewed u then they will throw out an acceptance if the interview went well, regardless of whether they think u will go or not. they want applicants with high stats so their statistics will look better.

with that said, it is very hard to not sound arrogant in an interview if everything is perfect. if an normal applicant says to impress an interviewer that he is intelligent, then it is fine. but if u say ur really intelligent then interviewer can take that as arrogance. thats is just one example. so ur language has to be really really well rehearsed. Moreover u have to work extra hard to tell them why u r interested in their school.

But with perfect application, schools will still send out acceptance with average interview contrary because it doesn't hurt them to send out an acceptance. so only possible answer is that ur failing at interview.

 

[bannie22]

very surprised that washme didnt get into osu and cinny.


in addition 2nd author pub plus those stats shud at least get u interviews with top schools

but its nice that it all worked out at the end

 

[WashMe]

if everything is perfect then why would u want to attend lower tier schools in first place. if the school interviewed u then they will throw out an acceptance if the interview went well, regardless of whether they think u will go or not. they want applicants with high stats so their statistics will look better.

with that said, it is very hard to not sound arrogant in an interview if everything is perfect. if an normal applicant says to impress an interviewer that he is intelligent, then it is fine. but if u say ur really intelligent then interviewer can take that as arrogance. thats is just one example. so ur language has to be really really well rehearsed. Moreover u have to work extra hard to tell them why u r interested in their school.

But with perfect application, schools will still send out acceptance with average interview contrary because it doesn't hurt them to send out an acceptance. so only possible answer is that ur failing at interview.

Another possibility that nobody really delves into is that schools might interview certain candidates knowing that they will probably put them on the waitlist. These candidates may be smart, but not have the right personality for school X. Or, they might not be brilliant, but they are smart enough and the school would be happy to end up with them eventually.

Schools can't outright accept ALL the applicants they want and ALL the applicants they would be happy ending up with (note: schools can't have everyone they want). If they did this, they might accidentally over-accept by a long way. Top people pull down many acceptances and most realistic candidates get waitlisted (and sometimes accepted). Eventually, top people only have one hind end to fill one seat and everyone else falls into a spot.

 

[bannie22]

Another possibility that nobody really delves into is that schools might interview certain candidates knowing that they will probably put them on the waitlist. These candidates may be smart, but not have the right personality for school X. Or, they might not be brilliant, but they are smart enough and the school would be happy to end up with them eventually.

Schools can't outright accept ALL the applicants they want and ALL the applicants they would be happy ending up with (note: schools can't have everyone they want). If they did this, they might accidentally over-accept by a long way. Top people pull down many acceptances and most realistic candidates get waitlisted (and sometimes accepted). Eventually, top people only have one hind end to fill one seat and everyone else falls into a spot.

like you 🙂
i wish.
too.

 

[WashMe]

very surprised that washme didnt get into osu and cinny.


in addition 2nd author pub plus those stats shud at least get u interviews with top schools

but its nice that it all worked out at the end

Thanks 🙂

Regarding the interviews, I think I did fare pretty well. I interviewed at 4 of the original 8 schools I applied to, including WashU. Then, when I tacked on 3 schools later, I interviewed at CCLCM.

5/11 isn't a bad interview rate, considering 3 apps were in December and the other schools that didn't interview me were Harvard, Penn, Yale, and Mayo. I just applied like a complete *****.

 

[bannie22]

Thanks 🙂

Regarding the interviews, I think I did fare pretty well. I interviewed at 4 of the original 8 schools I applied to, including WashU. Then, when I tacked on 3 schools later, I interviewed at CCLCM.

5/11 isn't a bad interview rate, considering 3 apps were in December and the other schools that didn't interview me were Harvard, Penn, Yale, and Mayo. I just applied like a complete *****.

Do you hang around during pizza dinners and stuff? I interviewed there. Ever watched House at the top of Olin with another student?

 

[WashMe]

Do you hang around during pizza dinners and stuff? I interviewed there. Ever watched House at the top of Olin with another student?

Hmm... I went to some of the pizza parties, but I haven't watched House at the top of Olin. I live inconveniently far away from Olin to hang out with the cool kids... Haha do you remember what I was wearing? Maybe we met.

 

[bannie22]

Hmm... I went to some of the pizza parties, but I haven't watched House at the top of Olin. I live inconveniently far away from Olin to hang out with the cool kids... Haha do you remember what I was wearing? Maybe we met.

Mmm, no, that was eons ago (august), but then I only met a few kids, and I only got to really speak to two students watching House atop Olin, so it was probably not you 😛

 

[WashMe]

Mmm, no, that was eons ago (august), but then I only met a few kids, and I only got to really speak to two students watching House atop Olin, so it was probably not you 😛

August? Did you apply MSTP? I thought the 1st MD interviews were the last week of September. Then again, I've been confused about a lot of things since day 1 of medical school

 

[longhorn09]

August? Did you apply MSTP? I thought the 1st MD interviews were the last week of September. Then again, I've been confused about a lot of things since day 1 of medical school

How's things in washu and in stl ?

 

[WashMe]

How's things in washu and in stl ?

WashU's awesome 🙂 As far as the city I don't see much of it (by choice; plenty of time, but I don't care). Overall, it's a great experience. I mean, medical schools sucks, but if it's going to suck then I'd like it to suck at WashU, you know? If anyone's wondering, I'm thinking Rads at this point. You probably figured as much given how lazy and cynical I am (now I'm thinking ER... j/k)

Anyway, I gotta sign off so I can get to bed... gotta see patients in the hospital tomorrow to practice interview/physical exam skills. I just want to add: if any of you are concerned about the aforementioned interpersonal aspect of medical school, just know that 95% of the class feels the same way. You'll stumble and it's a little embarrassing the first time, but you get over it quickly. I promise there's no reason to worry.

 

[bannie22]

August? Did you apply MSTP? I thought the 1st MD interviews were the last week of September. Then again, I've been confused about a lot of things since day 1 of medical school

Oh probably september then, or maybe even november 0.o
no probably october..
i have no idea. its been so long ago. sorry 🙁

 

[longhorn09]

WashU's awesome 🙂 As far as the city I don't see much of it (by choice; plenty of time, but I don't care). Overall, it's a great experience. I mean, medical schools sucks, but if it's going to suck then I'd like it to suck at WashU, you know? If anyone's wondering, I'm thinking Rads at this point. You probably figured as much given how lazy and cynical I am (now I'm thinking ER... j/k)

Anyway, I gotta sign off so I can get to bed... gotta see patients in the hospital tomorrow to practice interview/physical exam skills. I just want to add: if any of you are concerned about the aforementioned interpersonal aspect of medical school, just know that 95% of the class feels the same way. You'll stumble and it's a little embarrassing the first time, but you get over it quickly. I promise there's no reason to worry.

That's great! You have a good day tomorrow!👍