Surprising things about MSI?

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Ok, enough about how hard or easy MSI has been 😉. Let's talk about stuff that has purely SURPRISED you in MSI. I'll start.

-- how it's really NOT like high school/cliquey, what not

IME, people really seem to just do their own things and go their own ways. Yeah, I guess perhaps there's a core of people that like to party and be social. But really the cliqueness is not as bad as I would've expected based on everyone's comments.

-- how the basic science courses don't go into as much detail as I thought they would.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of detail to memorize. But it mostly consists of knowing the names and terminology for things. Back when I was in undergrad o-chem, for ex, when we went through units at the end like DNA or proteins, or whatever, I would think, oh I'm sure in med school we're going to go even more in-depth in understanding how these structures are put together, etc. etc. I'll have plenty of time to really learn these structures in the future.

Thought FAIL. There's no time at all in med school to spend dwelling on those kinds of conceptual details. We barely have time to memorize the names of diff protein transporters or what not. Certainly no time to spend considering o-chem type issues of how these structures are put together... moral of that story: Learn those things in undergrad well, 'cuz you'll never see them again in med school!!

(Unless you hated those types of things to begin with, in which case I have good news for you, which is that you won't see them in med school!!)


-- how big of a difference there is between regionally-based and systems-based anatomy.

Going into med school, I was like, oh whatever, I'm flexible, either will be fine. In short, I didn't pay that much attention to how schools differed in this regard. Well... what has been surprising is how much the way the curriculum is structured really makes a difference! I think I screwed myself over because I'm good at seeing relationship and memorizing, let's say, 100s of blood vessels all at once. But if you chunk that memorization out over several unrelated units, I seem to lose track of what's going on.

I really would've benefited from a functional, systems-based perspective. On the flip side, I have developed my rote-memorization skills a TON, and we all know how important those skills are. Being exposed to a way of learning that is just completely antithetical to my nature, I can't help but gain something from that.

-- how important people are

I'm talking about TAs and small-group profs, etc. Without'em, it would've taken me 2x as long to dredge up on my own through digging through notes etc. Regardless of how the curriculum is structured, good teachers still matter a ton. They can really make a huge difference.

-- how fast time passes 😉
 
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1. it depends on school.
2. you may need to know the name of those protein transporters in the case of some genetic disease, you DO NOT need to know how DNA and proteins are put together (no need to push electron). remember they are training us to be physicians, not da vincies.
 
How communal Medical School students are.

I never thought before coming to medical school that I would go to a fellow student who's a Neuroscience major and ask him to teach me about dorsal and ventral roots and the parasympathetic pathways and not have him laugh at me.

Everyone helps each other at my school. You can go to any dissected body and if there's a student digging through that goo he will tell you/show you what he has found.

People are constantly posting their personal mnemonics/study aids online. Students are constantly teaching each other. You walk up to a group of students learning the bones and muscle insertions...you can just blend in with the group and in no time they'll be quizzing you too.

It's really cool and not like I thought it would be.
 
I agree with pretty much everything said. One thing that has surprised me is how "not social awkwardly" my class is and how much we go out to the bars. Also I've surprised myself with the amount of material I can memorize in a small period of time.
 
...oh...And the chicks. Seriously hot chicks. I thought I was going to be surrounded by Plain Janes but I'm not. My class is replete with luscious women of every shade and hue.

Which is not really helping me study...
 
most surprising thing that nobody realizes until they get there is the small groups/team based learning and "early clinical experience" classes are almost completely useless and a giant waste of time during m1 and m2.

I learned more useful information about writing notes from a lecture by m4 at the beginning of this year then two years of weekly classes about the same thing during m1 and m2.





ok maybe im exaggerating a bit but still these are my memories
 
...oh...And the chicks. Seriously hot chicks. I thought I was going to be surrounded by Plain Janes but I'm not. My class is replete with luscious women of every shade and hue.


Yeah except they're probably all married/engaged.
 
...oh...And the chicks. Seriously hot chicks. I thought I was going to be surrounded by Plain Janes but I'm not. My class is replete with luscious women of every shade and hue.

Which is not really helping me study...

Wait what....your school has attractive chicks? I have maybe 4 attractive girls in my class and one of them has a partial mustache (my standards have dropped significantly).
 
I agree with you. I think he must keep his standards LOW.

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Everything has been surprising. I obviously had a pretty naiive understanding of the ups and downs coming in.

The ups are amazing and frequent.

The downs are devastating.

I was really surprised by how much I appreciate the faculty, and how the different methods of teaching (systems vs reg, block vs semester) matter.
 
-- how it's really NOT like high school/cliquey, what not

IME, people really seem to just do their own things and go their own ways. Yeah, I guess perhaps there's a core of people that like to party and be social. But really the cliqueness is not as bad as I would've expected based on everyone's comments.

LOL. Don't worry, it'll come. Particularly if the "goes out on weekends" crew has independent-minded individuals in it... that makes the other "cool" people really crap their pants.
 
Everything has been surprising. I obviously had a pretty naiive understanding of the ups and downs coming in.

The ups are amazing and frequent.

The downs are devastating.

I was really surprised by how much I appreciate the faculty, and how the different methods of teaching (systems vs reg, block vs semester) matter.
Boy, do I agree with you there. I had no idea what an emotional roller-coaster ride the first semester of MS-I would be. It never gets easier, but it will feel a lot easier after the first semester because you have a general idea of what you have to do to get through a course and how to pass a med school exam. You don't scare as easily. 😛
 
Everything has been surprising. I obviously had a pretty naiive understanding of the ups and downs coming in.

The ups are amazing and frequent.

The downs are devastating.

I was really surprised by how much I appreciate the faculty, and how the different methods of teaching (systems vs reg, block vs semester) matter.

Hear, hear! 👍

You said what I wanted to say, except much more succinctly and better. 😛

The faculty have been great, I will admit. Very available. Especially during lab/group sessions. I feel fortunate that we have them there, as I know many institutions do not necessarily have them on hand. I really think clinical years will be great here, for that same reason.

Now I just have to buckle down and get through these first 2 yrs, lol.
 
I have been both pleasantly surprised and horrified by my class this year.

Pleasantly - a lot of note/study guide sharing. People really put effort into these and they helped a lot.

Horrified - theft and students showing up drunk for exam reviews and being belligerent.

I just think we have both some really great students and some really immature students - probably no different than any other class except what they chose to act on.
 
++ How much people actually study...

GODDAMN even at a p/f school ppl still freak the f out b4 exams.

++The difficulty of exams does not reflect the difficulty of the material

so we have a lot, a lot to learn...but the test are not that hard. ive actually found many test in undergrad to have been much more difficult

++People are actually not that social awkward

there are many exceptions....but all in all...pleasantly surprised with the amount of cool, smart people there are

++that i can still wake up at 3 pm on weeknds

awesome

++People arent as smart as i thought

okay...now this sounds bad...but its not that everyone isnt really smart...they are...but they work REALLY hard...i mean...REALLY REALLY hard...and for some reason i thought that where im at nobody had to try...but everyone works...REALLY REALLY HARD...which is kinda refreshing because i dont feel like im an idiot for having to study so much

++How athletic everyone is

Wow...lots of athletes...would never have guessed it.
 
++ How much people actually study...

GODDAMN even at a p/f school ppl still freak the f out b4 exams.

++The difficulty of exams does not reflect the difficulty of the material

so we have a lot, a lot to learn...but the test are not that hard. ive actually found many test in undergrad to have been much more difficult

++People are actually not that social awkward

there are many exceptions....but all in all...pleasantly surprised with the amount of cool, smart people there are

++that i can still wake up at 3 pm on weeknds

awesome

++People arent as smart as i thought

okay...now this sounds bad...but its not that everyone isnt really smart...they are...but they work REALLY hard...i mean...REALLY REALLY hard...and for some reason i thought that where im at nobody had to try...but everyone works...REALLY REALLY HARD...which is kinda refreshing because i dont feel like im an idiot for having to study so much

++How athletic everyone is

Wow...lots of athletes...would never have guessed it.

the average med student really isnt that smart. Just really hardworking
 
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