TAing a 1st-year chem/bio with a full courseload

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I'm considering to TA for the first time, probably intro chem or bio. For those of you who have TA experience, what was the workload like? I'll be taking 5 science courses while working as a TA. I'm wondering if this would be overkill. How hard would it be to TA while taking a full courseload?
 
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When I TAed gen chem the labs were 3 hr, but we were scheduled for 4 hr to allow for set up and clean up. I also had to grade lab reports, along with the instructor, and had a lab of ~45 students so grading could take between 2-3 hrs for the parts that I was grading. I don't think the time element will really be a problem. The only thing that bugged me was that I got frustrated seeing the same mistakes over and over and some students didn't care and if they are not putting forth the effort, kind of made me not want to help them.
 
I TAed for intro bio, and it wasnt too bad. All I did was review the material really quick before recitation...As long as you know the material pretty well its not too time consuming... Grading tests on the other hand takes forever..
 
When I TAed gen chem the labs were 3 hr, but we were scheduled for 4 hr to allow for set up and clean up. I also had to grade lab reports, along with the instructor, and had a lab of ~45 students so grading could take between 2-3 hrs for the parts that I was grading. I don't think the time element will really be a problem. The only thing that bugged me was that I got frustrated seeing the same mistakes over and over and some students didn't care and if they are not putting forth the effort, kind of made me not want to help them.

Wow... your Chem TA experience was virtually IDENTICAL to mine.

Only thing I'd add is that I got pretty frustrated that they paid me an hour to mark about 30-40 lab reports.... That left me with either the choice of doing a very very quick/slapdash marking job, or accurately mark/provide feedback as volunteer work essentially.

But to address the original question - the total time commitment usually works out to 5-6 hours/week. Very easily manageable and TAing is a great source of spending money.
 
I know it's not your original question, but will say that TAing for a prof you had a class with can lead to a great LOR.
 
the total time commitment usually works out to 5-6 hours/week. Very easily manageable and TAing is a great source of spending money.
Does that include preparation time, like reviewing concepts to be able to teach to students as well as preparing materials for tutorials? (Or did you have to conduct a tutorial at all? From what you said, it seems that marking and being a lab TA were the only jobs you had as a TA.)
 
I know it's not your original question, but will say that TAing for a prof you had a class with can lead to a great LOR.


Strongly agree. I TA'd for my o-chem professor for a year and his LOR was definitely the best out of all my professors.

TA'ing with a full courseload isn't that difficult if you can balance out your time, especially with grading papers. It can actually be beneficial in a way as well. When I was taking biochem and TA-ing, my o-chem professor actually helped me out with some of the biochem material I was learning. He also gave me some inside hints on how my biochem professor structured her tests hehe =)
 
Does that include preparation time, like reviewing concepts to be able to teach to students as well as preparing materials for tutorials? (Or did you have to conduct a tutorial at all? From what you said, it seems that marking and being a lab TA were the only jobs you had as a TA.)

At my school tutorial TAs and lab TAs were separate jobs - I've done both. As a tutorial TA, the duties were to teach tutorials/hold office hours etc. The total time commitment as a tutorial TA was actually LESS than lab TA simply because there's no marking involved in tutorials (in my school).

Of course this will vary by school.... but yes, I meant 5-6 hours both as a lab TA and as a tutorial TA.

Oh, and twice in the term I had to do an extra 2 hours to invigilate the midterms (which sucked because it was on a Friday night, but that cuts into social time not into course work =))
 
Did you all become TAs as masters students or PhD students? Were you students in that specific department in which you become a TA for? I know schools that won't even hire masters students as TAs (since its something like a tuition waiver of sorts), which I think is unfair.
 
Did you all become TAs as masters students or PhD students? Were you students in that specific department in which you become a TA for? I know schools that won't even hire masters students as TAs (since its something like a tuition waiver of sorts), which I think is unfair.

No and no, I started TAing as a 3rd year undergraduate and did it for 3rd/4th year, and it was outside my faculty.

With that said, my case is also a fairly rare exception. Chemistry is one of the few departments at my school that takes TAs from outside its faculty, most don't. Also, preference/priority is given to grad students (as you said, as a form of tuition waiver type deal), so only spots left over after grad students get their picks are available to undergrads. Even so though, you need A LOT of TAs to service a 2000 student 1st year class like Intro Chem, and grad students alone just won't cut it.

I suspect 1st year bio and chem at most major schools is like this.
 
Did you all become TAs as masters students or PhD students? Were you students in that specific department in which you become a TA for? I know schools that won't even hire masters students as TAs (since its something like a tuition waiver of sorts), which I think is unfair.

No, my UG did not have a PhD program in chem (which is where I TAed) or bio. It did have MS in both but I know for chem, there were only 5 MS TA spots which had tuition waivers of some kind...not exactly sure how it all worked, and were also paid by the hour. So 5 grad students wasn't enough to staff the department.

Department did have a policy that TAs had to be chem majors or minors, but I'm not sure how much that was enforced. I initially was not a chem major, (was bio) but ended up switching but that was after I had been TAing for the department. And there were a handful of other bio people TAing chem as well. Don't know if it is specific to my UG, but the school didn't have that many chem majors. Most graduating classes had around 10 chem majors (BS), bio usually had ~150. But bio students have to take gen chem and orgo, so there are lots of labs that need TAs.

As for getting the job - a friend that worked there told me they were looking for more people, introduced me to the boss and I was hired. That's all it takes is a recommendation. Prof recommendations usually carry more weight, but I can tell you that near the end of the year, my boss would ask me and the other TAs if we had any standouts to hire. There were definitely people I recommended that were offered a position, though not everyone accepted.

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Does that include preparation time, like reviewing concepts to be able to teach to students as well as preparing materials for tutorials? (Or did you have to conduct a tutorial at all? From what you said, it seems that marking and being a lab TA were the only jobs you had as a TA.)

In terms of reviewing concepts, I usually did that on my own time, but some classes did have weekly TA meetings to go over concepts and what was expected of lab reports. But whether a meeting was held or not completely depended on who the the lab director for the course was. And because of schedules, there is no way everyone can attend the thing. They usually lasted 45-60 min.

Each class had separate tutors for 'course material' but TAs were encouraged to hold an office hour once a week for lab material. Some TAs would just make office hour by appointment only as demand was often not high, and the class tutor could easily handle lab material. Also, at my UG profs were very accessible, so if I had a question, I would just go straight to the prof. One term I had a whole 2 people come to my office hour, and neither one was one of my students, or even in the class I was TAing, I of course still helped them, but there comes a point when it seems pretty useless. Lots of TAs were also doing research and would just hold their hour in their research lab. We also gave out our emails first day and some questions were handled through that.

The department did have lab preps who were responsible for making solutions and providing any needed equipment. That was a job separate from the TA, though some people would do both jobs, for gen chem and orgo. But in the upper level classes like biochem, and pchem, the TA was also the lab prep. In those courses, the faculty did all the grading, so it's kind of like a trade off.

sorry for such a long reply
 
I negotiated for a guaranteed 10 hours/week @ xx pay. Generally, I only had to put in about 6 hours of work, because I optimized my grading efficiency (30 students). This included about 2.5 hours a week for the lab. I didn't count hours answering student questions or anything like that, because I just do it because I like teaching, although the pay was nice.
 
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