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I want to apply early this cycle, and, in a measure to cut some costs, what do you think the 5 easiest schools are to get into. I am a pennsylvania resisdent, so I guess it is not even worht my time to apply to other state schools. Here are my stats
2.4 gpa undergard( 3.1 on my transcripts, with take overs )
3.3 graduate gpa
18 AA, 17TS, 16 Gen chem, 17 org, 23, RC, 14PAT, 14 Quant. My goal, is to applhy to dental schools for the fall of 2006, but I am also applying to Loma Linda biomedical science, which starts this fall. any advice would be appredciated. Also, with my spring classes and my summer classes, I will have a 3.5ish for my graduate gpa
 
of course you will hear NYU an BU... but you may still have problems with them. You have to increase that DAT. two sections with a score of 14 do not look good at all. The average DAT score is increasing every year.
 
do you think i have a shot at a solid post bac program , with two sections with 14's. also, if thdey look at the highest, I had a 16 in QR in the attempt before this last attempt. Also, I have tons of shadowing, certified oral radiology( Pennsylvania State Certified), and good letters of recommendation
 
premedman said:
do you think i have a shot at a solid post bac program , with two sections with 14's. also, if thdey look at the highest, I had a 16 in QR in the attempt before this last attempt. Also, I have tons of shadowing, certified oral radiology( Pennsylvania State Certified), and good letters of recommendation

Those are great pluses, but I would suggest retaking the dat. It is the only glaring weak point. You have all summer to study. concentrate on those low sections.
 
BU is more DAT conscious than NYU. Your grad gpa is more than enough for BU, but those couple low sections on the DAT may hurt you.

This is my second app. cycle and last year when I applied, I had 19 AA (16 Bio, 17 Gchem, 19 Orgo, 21 RC, 21 QR). I was told that my science numbers were too low for them to consider, given my 3.08 gpa. So, I would suggest retaking the DAT if BU is one of your options.
 
Study really hard this summer and retake the DAT. With your less than stellar GPA (I had about the same), you're gonna want 21+ in all sections to really feel confident going into the app process.
 
Pikeyman said:
Howard, Meharrey, NYU, BU, USC

See for yourself.
Pikey, you're always telling people Howard and Meharry without knowing what race they are. If you're not black and you apply to Howard or Meharry you're throwing away your money.
 
USUaggie said:
Pikey, you're always telling people Howard and Meharry without knowing what race they are. If you're not black and you apply to Howard or Meharry you're throwing away your money.

I'd agree with that. The odds are certainly stacked against one.
 
You could give Temple a try also.
 
premedman said:
I want to apply early this cycle, and, in a measure to cut some costs, what do you think the 5 easiest schools are to get into. I am a pennsylvania resisdent, so I guess it is not even worht my time to apply to other state schools. Here are my stats
2.4 gpa undergard( 3.1 on my transcripts, with take overs )
3.3 graduate gpa
18 AA, 17TS, 16 Gen chem, 17 org, 23, RC, 14PAT, 14 Quant. My goal, is to applhy to dental schools for the fall of 2006, but I am also applying to Loma Linda biomedical science, which starts this fall. any advice would be appredciated. Also, with my spring classes and my summer classes, I will have a 3.5ish for my graduate gpa

Harvard is one of the easier ones. Good luck dude.
 
Leeuwenhoek said:
You could give Temple a try also.

according to the ADEA book, a minimum science GPA of 3.0 is required. with your graduate classes factored in, your gpa might be 3.0+, so yeah, definitely give it a try. i wonder if anyone with a sci. GPA below 3.0 was accepted.
 
superman said:
according to the ADEA book, a minimum science GPA of 3.0 is required. with your graduate classes factored in, your gpa might be 3.0+, so yeah, definitely give it a try. i wonder if anyone with a sci. GPA below 3.0 was accepted.

Oh crap, no wonder i got my rejection 2 weeks after I submitted my application. 2.92, just missed the cut...BOO!
 
USUaggie said:
Pikey, you're always telling people Howard and Meharry without knowing what race they are. If you're not black and you apply to Howard or Meharry you're throwing away your money.

I disagree. A good friend of mine had a 3.0gpa and 19s across the board on his second try at the DAT and he got into Howard. He is also one of the whitest people on the planet! He was completely ready to attend there except for the small fact that he was accepted at UOP a few days later.
 
gundam said:
Harvard is one of the easier ones. Good luck dude.

hahaha, that if funny. For your sake, I hope you are kidding.
 
Fulcrum77 said:
I disagree. A good friend of mine had a 3.0gpa and 19s across the board on his second try at the DAT and he got into Howard. He is also one of the whitest people on the planet! He was completely ready to attend there except for the small fact that he was accepted at UOP a few days later.

Look at the percentages. We're not saying "no" white people get in there, just that very few do. And I'm sure many apply there, just going by the low stats. His odds are better at other schools. 👍
 
premedman said:
I want to apply early this cycle, and, in a measure to cut some costs, what do you think the 5 easiest schools are to get into. I am a pennsylvania resisdent, so I guess it is not even worht my time to apply to other state schools. Here are my stats
2.4 gpa undergard( 3.1 on my transcripts, with take overs )
3.3 graduate gpa
18 AA, 17TS, 16 Gen chem, 17 org, 23, RC, 14PAT, 14 Quant. My goal, is to applhy to dental schools for the fall of 2006, but I am also applying to Loma Linda biomedical science, which starts this fall. any advice would be appredciated. Also, with my spring classes and my summer classes, I will have a 3.5ish for my graduate gpa

At Temple, you need a 3.0 and min of 18 on the DAT....thats what the admin told me this year. I really think you have to retake the DAT, cause the only reason you got an 18AA, is because of your high RC score....your science and PAT scores are really bad and your science GPA is really bad as well....if you wanna show adcoms you can handle the science, you really need to rock the science sections of the DAT.

I personally think you dont have a chance at Temple, but its only a $100 to try, so go for it.
 
Pikeyman said:
Howard, Meharrey, NYU, BU, USC

See for yourself.

USC?? are you kidding me, the avg GPA at USC is like 3.4+ and DAT's of 19+, I'm not sure if your thinking of the University of Southern Colombia or something but I definately dont agree
 
Temple said that they are raising the bar to only accept people with 3.2 Science GPA and higher for next year.
USC, I have 3.4GPA, 20/20/18 DAT and didnt even get an interview 😕, but I applied late September 😳 They make me 😡 cuz they charge $165 for their seconday.
 
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premedman said:
I want to apply early this cycle, and, in a measure to cut some costs, what do you think the 5 easiest schools are to get into. I am a pennsylvania resisdent, so I guess it is not even worht my time to apply to other state schools. Here are my stats
2.4 gpa undergard( 3.1 on my transcripts, with take overs )
3.3 graduate gpa
18 AA, 17TS, 16 Gen chem, 17 org, 23, RC, 14PAT, 14 Quant. My goal, is to applhy to dental schools for the fall of 2006, but I am also applying to Loma Linda biomedical science, which starts this fall. any advice would be appredciated. Also, with my spring classes and my summer classes, I will have a 3.5ish for my graduate gpa


I don't want to sound like a nasayer, but you probably should retake the DAT. I was pretty confident when I applied this cycle. I had similar stats: undergrad GPA with two BS's in Physical Sciences: 2.5, MBA: 3.6, PostBac 3.95, DAT: 21 AA, 26 QA, 21 PAT. I figured I wouldn't have too much problems because I showed a huge improvement after my poor college grades and I did ok on the DAT. Boy, was I wrong. I applied to about 20 schools and was only offered interviews at four.

You definitely need to retake the DAT. I've heard NYU has a cutoff of 15 on the PAT. Another thing that hurt me was most schools (actually all the schools I applied to) treat Grad shool GPA separately from your undergrad. I called up most of the schools individually to point out my Grad school GPA, and still, due to the competitiveness of the applicants, they would rather take someone with a better Undergrad GPA than a person with a higher edu.

Even though I may have come across kinda negative, you still have a good chance as long as you improve your DAT score. I know because that's what saved me. 😀
 
columbia is among the 5 easiest to get in, i think 😀
 
Retake the DAT without a doubt and score a no lower than a 17 (18 would be better) in any one section.
 
sucky GPA said:
😀


I don't want to sound like a nasayer, but you probably should retake the DAT. I was pretty confident when I applied this cycle. I had similar stats: undergrad GPA with two BS's in Physical Sciences: 2.5, MBA: 3.6, PostBac 3.95, DAT: 21 AA, 26 QA, 21 PAT. I figured I wouldn't have too much problems because I showed a huge improvement after my poor college grades and I did ok on the DAT. Boy, was I wrong. I applied to about 20 schools and was only offered interviews at four.

You definitely need to retake the DAT. I've heard NYU has a cutoff of 15 on the PAT. Another thing that hurt me was most schools (actually all the schools I applied to) treat Grad shool GPA separately from your undergrad. I called up most of the schools individually to point out my Grad school GPA, and still, due to the competitiveness of the applicants, they would rather take someone with a better Undergrad GPA than a person with a higher edu.

Even though I may have come across kinda negative, you still have a good chance as long as you improve your DAT score. I know because that's what saved me. 😀

Hey Sucky,
Which schools did you apply to? Which schools gave you the interviews?
Thanks.
 
I prob have the lowest stats here and I'm applying to only 5 schools:

NYU
BU
MCG (my state school)
Arizona
UoP

Those all seem to have lowest acceptance stats or higher DAT emphasis.
Wish me luck on DAT in June! It's my ONLY hope!
 
Leeuwenhoek said:
Hey Sucky,
Which schools did you apply to? Which schools gave you the interviews?
Thanks.

Columbia, NYU, UNLV, and UW. accepted at NYU, waitlisted at UW and UNLV and didn't get along with the interviewer at Columbia.
 
sucky GPA said:
Columbia, NYU, UNLV, and UW. accepted at NYU, waitlisted at UW and UNLV and didn't get along with the interviewer at Columbia.
Accepted at NYU for next year? What are your stats if you don't mind me asking
 
Just call it a hunch, but I have a feeling his GPA's not too great.
 
etoolky1 said:
Accepted at NYU for next year? What are your stats if you don't mind me asking
I'd like to know as well...
 
IcemanDDS said:
I'd like to know as well...


Please see my previous posting on this thread.

My overall GPA was still below 3.0. I had over 200 credits from my undergrad classes so the post bac grades wasn't enough to bring it up too much. Depending on how each school calculated, it ranged from a 2.8 to a 3.0.

I've learned during this process that a Masters degree doesn't help much, if at all. The simple reason is most schools look at your undergrad and grad grades independently. If they combined my GPA, I would've had like a 3.2 overall average. What saved me was my DAT score. It caught their eyes, and I was able to do well once I had the interview.

Iceman, I'd recommend applying to more schools. Apply to UOP early. They fill their class fast.
 
IcemanDDS said:
I prob have the lowest stats here and I'm applying to only 5 schools:

NYU
BU
MCG (my state school)
Arizona
UoP

Those all seem to have lowest acceptance stats or higher DAT emphasis.
Wish me luck on DAT in June! It's my ONLY hope!

AZ stats are old and have been creaping up each year. Unless you have some great life experience AZ is a reach. UOP is a reach unless you rock the DAT. I would apply to atleast 10 schools. If not you will have a very long year with only wasted money and time to show.
 
J2AZ said:
AZ stats are old and have been creaping up each year. Unless you have some great life experience AZ is a reach. UOP is a reach unless you rock the DAT. I would apply to atleast 10 schools. If not you will have a very long year with only wasted money and time to show.
Well I'm counting on DAT. Which 5 other schools would you recommend? They're all gonna be a reach.... 🙁
 
Leeuwenhoek said:
You could give Temple a try also.
Not a chance. Temple is a top dental school.
I recommend NYU.
 
USUaggie said:
Pikey, you're always telling people Howard and Meharry without knowing what race they are. If you're not black and you apply to Howard or Meharry you're throwing away your money.

True. On the contrary if you have a GED and a pulse you can get in if you are AA. Just make sure you write some BS on your application about going back to the hood to practice once you are finished. :laugh:
 
DrWhiteCoat said:
True. On the contrary if you have a GED and a pulse you can get in if you are AA. Just make sure you write some BS on your application about going back to the hood to practice once you are finished. :laugh:

That is such an ignorant comment.
 
chadDMD said:
Not a chance. Temple is a top dental school.
Does that really make you feel better about yourself?
 
chadDMD said:
Not a chance. Temple is a top dental school.
I recommend NYU.
18 DAT and 3.2 GPA avg. for Temple.


TOP dental school 😕
 
DrWhiteCoat said:
True. On the contrary if you have a GED and a pulse you can get in if you are AA. Just make sure you write some BS on your application about going back to the hood to practice once you are finished. :laugh:

you're a *****. simple.
 
DrWhiteCoat said:
True. On the contrary if you have a GED and a pulse you can get in if you are AA. Just make sure you write some BS on your application about going back to the hood to practice once you are finished. :laugh:

Are you freaking serious? You would think that we are all respectful, educated people on here. Ignorance at its finest...
 
premedman said:
I want to apply early this cycle, and, in a measure to cut some costs, what do you think the 5 easiest schools are to get into. I am a pennsylvania resisdent, so I guess it is not even worht my time to apply to other state schools. Here are my stats
2.4 gpa undergard( 3.1 on my transcripts, with take overs )
3.3 graduate gpa
18 AA, 17TS, 16 Gen chem, 17 org, 23, RC, 14PAT, 14 Quant. My goal, is to applhy to dental schools for the fall of 2006, but I am also applying to Loma Linda biomedical science, which starts this fall. any advice would be appredciated. Also, with my spring classes and my summer classes, I will have a 3.5ish for my graduate gpa


what's diff between undergrad and graduate gpa?
 
I-Baby said:
Are you freaking serious? You would think that we are all respectful, educated people on here. Ignorance at its finest...
Yes. And the sad thing is a lot of this ignorance finds its way into a dental practice one day....
 
I-Baby said:
Are you freaking serious? You would think that we are all respectful, educated people on here. Ignorance at its finest...
Anytime anyone makes a comment like that and their join date is the same month that we're in now, I just assume it's our lovely lame pre-dental troll who loves to stir things up but isn't really funny. You all know who I'm talking about.
 
chadDMD said:
Not a chance. Temple is a top dental school.
I recommend NYU.

Since you are in Pennsylvania, I would definitely try Temple and maybe UPenn. They may separate in-state/out-state candidates in the admissions so you might compete against other in-stater scores.

Also if you get into Temple, you qualify for in-state tuition which saves you even more than Geico.
 
According to what some of you posted even a Master of medical Sciences is not helpful because adcoms will focus on undergrad GPA and prefer somebody who hasn't resorted to that over somebody who has? 😕
 
Pikeyman said:
Howard, Meharrey, NYU, BU, USC

See for yourself.

USC??? You must be referring to the University of Southern Colombia buddy... 🙂. It is by no means easy to get to SC!!
 
TeethVader said:
USC??? You must be referring to the University of Southern Colombia buddy... 🙂. It is by no means easy to get to SC!!

True, I dont think USC is by any means a bottom five.

Bottom five schools graduate dentists just as well as top 5.
 
natroncb said:
True, I dont think USC is by any means a bottom five.

Bottom five schools graduate dentists just as well as top 5.

whether it's top or bottom...I hope i get accepted... -_-;
 
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