The disadvantage of submitting late? (Mid July)

[stannislaus]

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I'm a current cycle applicant and I just submitted my primary application a few days ago (July 20).

I've read a lot of advice on sdn about how important it is to submit early, and I'm wondering how much of a disadvantage am I in because I didn't submit in June.

I know that at this point, verification will take quite some time (~40-50 days, based on what I've read on here), but how does this affect my chance of getting invited to an interview and ultimately getting accepted?

My stats: 3.89 gpa, 37 mcat.
I'm applying top-tier schools (EDIT: I'm applying broadly, but my target/dream schools are top-tier! NYU, Columbia, and Stanford), for both MD and MD/PhD programs.
(Is the timing of the game a little different for MD/PhD programs?)

Please advise! Thank you!

 

[jk1006]

yea so youll be verified in early september probably, hopefully youll have all your secondaries ready to go.

you sound too close minded though

only applying top tier is a surefire way to become a reapplicant next year, especially since youre late. if you had been early that confidence could be justifiable, but at this point, broaden your horizons a bit and go with some mid tier schools too, not to mention MD/PhD is harder to begin with, so thats just compounded on that.

besides that, with a broad application list you should have a good shot of getting in

 

[sudo]

yea so youll be verified in early september probably, hopefully youll have all your secondaries ready to go.

you sound too close minded though

only applying top tier is a surefire way to become a reapplicant next year, especially since youre late. if you had been early that confidence could be justifiable, but at this point, broaden your horizons a bit and go with some mid tier schools too, not to mention MD/PhD is harder to begin with, so thats just compounded on that.

besides that, with a broad application list you should have a good shot of getting in

This. Ps- nice stats.

Sent from my SPH-L720

 

[Ismet]

you are a very strong applicant. you'll be doing a lot more waiting than people who submitted over a month ago, but you will not be horribly disadvantaged. i was verified on 9/2 with worse stats and still got 10 II's, but the interviews were from november to february rather than getting them done in the fall.

i'd add a few mid-tier schools, though, to broaden your chances.

 

[subtlepenguin]

yea so youll be verified in early september probably, hopefully youll have all your secondaries ready to go.

you sound too close minded though

only applying top tier is a surefire way to become a reapplicant next year, especially since youre late. if you had been early that confidence could be justifiable, but at this point, broaden your horizons a bit and go with some mid tier schools too, not to mention MD/PhD is harder to begin with, so thats just compounded on that.

besides that, with a broad application list you should have a good shot of getting in

But most top schools don't have rolling admissions?

 

[Tulkas]

I'm a current cycle applicant and I just submitted my primary application a few days ago (July 20).

I've read a lot of advice on sdn about how important it is to submit early, and I'm wondering how much of a disadvantage am I in because I didn't submit in June.

I know that at this point, verification will take quite some time (~40-50 days, based on what I've read on here), but how does this affect my chance of getting invited to an interview and ultimately getting accepted?

My stats: 3.89 gpa, 37 mcat.
I'm applying top-tier schools (EDIT: I'm applying broadly, but my target/dream schools are top-tier! NYU, Columbia, and Stanford), for both MD and MD/PhD programs.
(Is the timing of the game a little different for MD/PhD programs?)

Please advise! Thank you!

I think you will be alright. I also see that some people have misunderstood you. You did say that you are applying broadly but you do have some top-tier schools that you are hoping you get into, so you shouldn't have a problem there. I am assuming you understand what applying broadly means.

EDIT: It seems you edited your post after others commented on whether you were applying broadly enough. My bad.

 

[stannislaus]

I think you will be alright. I also see that some people have misunderstood you. You did say that you are applying broadly but you do have some top-tier schools that you are hoping you get into, so you shouldn't have a problem there. I am assuming you understand what applying broadly means.

EDIT: It seems you edited your post after others commented on whether you were applying broadly enough. My bad.

Thanks for all your responses!

So just to clarify:
Are you all saying that I still have a good chance of getting in somewhere as long as I apply to a good number of mid-tier schools? This is comforting and I will be grateful and happy to study anywhere.

But how about top tier schools (like Columbia - I really hope I still have a good chance of getting in... 🙁) ? How much of a disadvantage am I in for submitting in mid-July?

Is the consequence more or less significant if I'm interested in MD/PhD programs?

 

[Tulkas]

I think applying late hurts an applicant less in regards to top-tier schools because several of the top tier schools do not have a rolling admissions process. I am not so sure about MD/ PhD programs, but hopefully others will comment on this.

You have a good chance because of your stats and I am assuming you also have a well-rounded application. You should definitely apply to some mid-tier schools and I would recommend including some safety schools. But, don't bother adding a school if you just can't see yourself going there, even if it might be a "safe option."

Honestly, man, you will be alright. This is a waiting game so be patient. Interview well and you will be going somewhere this Fall.

 

[moto_za]

I don't think submitting in July is necessarily late.

 

[darklabel]

I don't think submitting in July is necessarily late.

I agree, it may be SDN late, but by no means is it late.

As said, as long as the rest of the app is at least decent you should be fine. Maybe apply at least to your state schools.

 

[nabilesmail]

I submitted Aug 9th last year and that was late. I'd say Mid July is Average

 

[plumazul]

I think applying late hurts an applicant less in regards to top-tier schools because several of the top tier schools do not have a rolling admissions process. I am not so sure about MD/ PhD programs, but hopefully others will comment on this.

You have a good chance because of your stats and I am assuming you also have a well-rounded application. You should definitely apply to some mid-tier schools and I would recommend including some safety schools. But, don't bother adding a school if you just can't see yourself going there, even if it might be a "safe option."

Honestly, man, you will be alright. This is a waiting game so be patient. Interview well and you will be going somewhere this Fall.

They may not have rolling admissions, but they have "rolling" IIs. They only have so many of those to give out and they are depleted with time.

 

[TheShaker]

They may not have rolling admissions, but they have "rolling" IIs. They only have so many of those to give out and they are depleted with time.

Is this from actual data or is just to show your point in image form?

 

[moto_za]

^
http://mstp.wustl.edu/admissions/Pages/Statistics.aspx

 

[plumazul]

Is this from actual data or is just to show your point in image form?

click on the graph,

 

[TheShaker]

click on the graph,

TIL that I'm ******ed. 🙁

 

[dirty630]

click on the graph,

Why does't WUSTL like 39 as an MCAT score? 🙁

 

[plumazul]

Why does't WUSTL like 39 as an MCAT score? 🙁

That's what you might think with just one year's data, but I've seen several years and it's just a blip for 2013. 39's do very well. 😀

 

[Mather2012]

Also, that data is for the MD/Ph.D. program as WUSTL. While I think the point it makes is true (less interview spots are available as time progresses), I think the raw numbers aren't something to broadly apply as the norm. I'm sure applicants applying with a 39 MCAT do absolutely fine for regular MD admission.

 

[chillaxbro]

**** so mid-July is late?

 

[nabilesmail]

I wouldn't say Mid July (July 15th) is late, but rather, average if you pre-write all secondaries. I think being complete (secondaries/LOR stuff in) in August is Average, September is late