The MD-student RANTING thread

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Since I dont want to spam the board everytime I hate med-school I am making this thread to express feeling and emotions you go through in med-school that may not always be on the positive side....

Let me have the honor of beginning...

Why the F**** does one of my professors have to write his biophysics chapters in a way that only Nobel price-physics candidates can understand? THIRTY equations in ONE chapter... I hate math, its always been my worst subject. Ill rather take anatomy 4 times than calculating the energy of a scattered photon of 90 degrees!!!...

I hate biophysics with a passion...! The information itself is interesting, but why the heck do they have to make everything so insanly complicated??

/rant
 
This is not really a rant, but I am so vewwy vewwy scared to start med. school.
 
i love math...wish i majored in it instead of microbiology
 
corbis11 said:
i love math...wish i majored in it instead of microbiology
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I think I lack the part of the brain which is for physics and math lol... But Ill get through it by studying my ass off... You cant be good in everything you know 😳
 
VoiceofReason said:
We don't do biophysics in med school here in the US. Thats socialism.
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Haha yeah those commi-bastards here in Poland are trying to screw us over to the left side by teaching us that **** :laugh::meanie:
 
What do I hate? Listening to faculty admit that american allopathic medical programs are overly intense to the point of driving otherwise healthy people down into the depths of depression. Then thats the end of it and nobody ever thinks to talk about what plans there are the fix the problem.

Oh my absolute favorite was the entire lecture we had on how to stay mentally healthy in the admittedly unhealthy environment that is american medical school. My eyes almost rolled right out of my god dam head and I got up and left with a visible look of disgust on my face for the lecturer. Not many people that make it to med school really need to be told how to be happy, thats insulting. Fix your training model you braindead assh0les.

edit: ryserr what I mean is everyone seems to know that med school is like hazing but instead of changing that we do nothing. Instead, we have these lectures that don't exactly shift blame from the system onto the students, but in an insidious way make you feel like its your fault. In essence we get, "ya'll are ******ed and lacking in insight when it comes to stress, but thats ok we'll spell it out for you." No, we know what the problems are and what factors contribute to mental discomfort in these situations, we're not stupid. How bout a lecture on what plans there are to make med school less like a hazing ritual.
 
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What do I hate? Listening to faculty admit that american allopathic medical programs are overly intense to the point of driving otherwise healthy people down into the depths of depression. Then thats the end of it and nobody ever thinks to talk about what plans there are the fix the problem.

Oh my absolute favorite was the entire lecture we had on how to stay mentally healthy in the admittedly unhealthy environment that is american medical school. My eyes almost rolled right out of my god dam head and I got up and left with a visible look of disgust on my face for the lecturer. Not many people that make it to med school really need to be told how to be happy, thats insulting. Fix your training model you braindead assh0les.
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not sure what you mean by this, but it doesnt make much sense.
 
people are unhappy in med school because of the same insecurity and self-hate that made them want to go to med school.
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No, that's engineering. Medical school attracts a few of those kids too, but a significant percentage are reasonably well adjusted type A personalities who might have actually been happy somewhere else.
 
Perrotfish said:
No, that's engineering. Medical school attracts a few of those kids too, but a significant percentage are reasonably well adjusted type A personalities who might have actually been happy somewhere else.
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wow, i did engineering.

too deep.
 
My complaint is the hypocrisy. Everyone recognizes the huge problems in medical education and no one does anything to change them. On the contrary, the critics are the same ones who implement the flawed system.

Third year orientation this week has exemplified this mentality. Every hour-long session of advice was followed by an hour-long session espousing the exact opposite. It was so frustrating. The two most glaring examples:

1. A 2 hour faculty panel in which the main emphasis was do not take advice from older students and residents who, while well intentioned, usually give bad advice. Instead we were advised to go directly to the attendings. The next event--2 hour 4th year medical student panel.

2. Hour long compliance session in which the emphasis was on proper documentation and how medical students should NEVER write orders. The next hour--"How to write orders". I kid you not.
 
cpants said:
My complaint is the hypocrisy. Everyone recognizes the huge problems in medical education and no one does anything to change them. On the contrary, the critics are the same ones who implement the flawed system.

Third year orientation this week has exemplified this mentality. Every hour-long session of advice was followed by an hour-long session espousing the exact opposite. It was so frustrating. The two most glaring examples:

1. A 2 hour faculty panel in which the main emphasis was do not take advice from older students and residents who, while well intentioned, usually give bad advice. Instead we were advised to go directly to the attendings. The next event--2 hour 4th year medical student panel.

2. Hour long compliance session in which the emphasis was on proper documentation and how medical students should NEVER write orders. The next hour--"How to write orders". I kid you not.
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That's hilarious.
 
VoiceofReason said:
What do I hate? Listening to faculty admit that american allopathic medical programs are overly intense to the point of driving otherwise healthy people down into the depths of depression. Then thats the end of it and nobody ever thinks to talk about what plans there are the fix the problem.

Oh my absolute favorite was the entire lecture we had on how to stay mentally healthy in the admittedly unhealthy environment that is american medical school. My eyes almost rolled right out of my god dam head and I got up and left with a visible look of disgust on my face for the lecturer. Not many people that make it to med school really need to be told how to be happy, thats insulting. Fix your training model you braindead assh0les.

edit: ryserr what I mean is everyone seems to know that med school is like hazing but instead of changing that we do nothing. Instead, we have these lectures that don't exactly shift blame from the system onto the students, but in an insidious way make you feel like its your fault. In essence we get, "ya'll are ******ed and lacking in insight when it comes to stress, but thats ok we'll spell it out for you." No, we know what the problems are and what factors contribute to mental discomfort in these situations, we're not stupid. How bout a lecture on what plans there are to make med school less like a hazing ritual.
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You've got me pumped! lol
 
VoiceofReason said:
What do I hate? Listening to faculty admit that american allopathic medical programs are overly intense to the point of driving otherwise healthy people down into the depths of depression. Then thats the end of it and nobody ever thinks to talk about what plans there are the fix the problem.

Oh my absolute favorite was the entire lecture we had on how to stay mentally healthy in the admittedly unhealthy environment that is american medical school. My eyes almost rolled right out of my god dam head and I got up and left with a visible look of disgust on my face for the lecturer. Not many people that make it to med school really need to be told how to be happy, thats insulting. Fix your training model you braindead assh0les.

edit: ryserr what I mean is everyone seems to know that med school is like hazing but instead of changing that we do nothing. Instead, we have these lectures that don't exactly shift blame from the system onto the students, but in an insidious way make you feel like its your fault. In essence we get, "ya'll are ******ed and lacking in insight when it comes to stress, but thats ok we'll spell it out for you." No, we know what the problems are and what factors contribute to mental discomfort in these situations, we're not stupid. How bout a lecture on what plans there are to make med school less like a hazing ritual.
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I love this... I've never though of it this way, probably because they've told me it's my fault.
 
VoiceofReason said:
What do I hate? Listening to faculty admit that american allopathic medical programs are overly intense to the point of driving otherwise healthy people down into the depths of depression. Then thats the end of it and nobody ever thinks to talk about what plans there are the fix the problem.

Oh my absolute favorite was the entire lecture we had on how to stay mentally healthy in the admittedly unhealthy environment that is american medical school. My eyes almost rolled right out of my god dam head and I got up and left with a visible look of disgust on my face for the lecturer. Not many people that make it to med school really need to be told how to be happy, thats insulting. Fix your training model you braindead assh0les.

edit: ryserr what I mean is everyone seems to know that med school is like hazing but instead of changing that we do nothing. Instead, we have these lectures that don't exactly shift blame from the system onto the students, but in an insidious way make you feel like its your fault. In essence we get, "ya'll are ******ed and lacking in insight when it comes to stress, but thats ok we'll spell it out for you." No, we know what the problems are and what factors contribute to mental discomfort in these situations, we're not stupid. How bout a lecture on what plans there are to make med school less like a hazing ritual.
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More people in med school get depressed not because of the system but because they are more prone to getting depressed... there is a selection bias here.

Med school is not like hazing and making it out as such is insincere and hyperbolic. Hazing is much, much, much worse. Stop whining
 
Instatewaiter said:
More people in med school get depressed not because of the system but because they are more prone to getting depressed... there is a selection bias here.

Med school is not like hazing and making it out as such is insincere and hyperbolic. Hazing is much, much, much worse. Stop whining
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your ******ed
 
VoiceofReason said:
edit: ryserr what I mean is everyone seems to know that med school is like hazing but instead of changing that we do nothing. Instead, we have these lectures that don't exactly shift blame from the system onto the students, but in an insidious way make you feel like its your fault. In essence we get, "ya'll are ******ed and lacking in insight when it comes to stress, but thats ok we'll spell it out for you." No, we know what the problems are and what factors contribute to mental discomfort in these situations, we're not stupid. How bout a lecture on what plans there are to make med school less like a hazing ritual.
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Seriously stop whining. You've gone through what, less than a year? None of med school is bad, even most of 3rd year. There really is no way around the amount of work and time you need to put in. Professors and attendings arent sadistic; they want you to learn the material. Hazing is when you have to go through a whole lot of BS for no reason. There is a rhyme and a reason in medical school.

VoiceofReason said:
your ******ed
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Now this is just ironic.
 
Having recently graduated, I would say that one the whole most medical school experiences and challenges are there for a reason. The long hours at the hospital on certain rotations, the occasional (or frequent) "scutwork" (which isn't always true scut - I feel I learned a lot from helping out with scutwork from time to time), the difficult and seemly endless exams and study - all of it is challenging, but in the end you come away learning something either about medicine or about yourself (I know, sounds lame, but really I believe it).

However, there are moments in which it's difficult to find purpose: for me, it was failing my first exam ever during my first year, or getting called stupid by an OB for leaving the suture too long during a repair, or taking care of kids with HbSS pain crises who you know will just be back and in more pain next week (so hard to see kids in such pain, and it felt like such a losing battle). I am of the opinion that it's good to have some forum, whether it's with a friend, family member, spouse, or anonymous internet site, in which we can occasionally vent about how frustrating med school can be from time to time. I personally think it's a healthy thing to do - sometimes you just have to get it off your chest, and once you have you can get back to the important stuff, whether that's studying hard, giving your all on the wards, or truly being with your family and friends when you have that seemingly rare opportunity.

God bless those of you who don't have the urge to rant about the occasional (or frequent, depending on your POV) frustration in medical school. Please don't begrudge those of us who find ourselves ranting from time to time - we all deal with frustrations differently. But I'd suggest also keeping in mind that most things in medical school, while difficult intellectually and emotionally, exist for a purpose; I guess I'd say try to take the good with the bad, and the bad will always pass, like a kidney stone.
 
In the middle of biochem this winter we had a seminar on time management. This was a seminar that we had to come in 1 hour after class was out for. Needless to say, the feedback portion of the seminar was pretty much 110 variations of "So you wasted our time to teach us how to manage our time better?"
 
Instatewaiter said:
Seriously stop whining. You've gone through what, less than a year? None of med school is bad, even most of 3rd year. There really is no way around the amount of work and time you need to put in. Professors and attendings arent sadistic; they want you to learn the material. Hazing is when you have to go through a whole lot of BS for no reason. There is a rhyme and a reason in medical school.
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This. Hearing stuff like this thread makes me appreciate my school's curriculum even more.

Now this is just ironic.
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JPmamd09 said:
Having recently graduated, I would say that one the whole most medical school experiences and challenges are there for a reason. The long hours at the hospital on certain rotations, the occasional (or frequent) "scutwork" (which isn't always true scut - I feel I learned a lot from helping out with scutwork from time to time), the difficult and seemly endless exams and study - all of it is challenging, but in the end you come away learning something either about medicine or about yourself (I know, sounds lame, but really I believe it).

However, there are moments in which it's difficult to find purpose: for me, it was failing my first exam ever during my first year, or getting called stupid by an OB for leaving the suture too long during a repair, or taking care of kids with HbSS pain crises who you know will just be back and in more pain next week (so hard to see kids in such pain, and it felt like such a losing battle). I am of the opinion that it's good to have some forum, whether it's with a friend, family member, spouse, or anonymous internet site, in which we can occasionally vent about how frustrating med school can be from time to time. I personally think it's a healthy thing to do - sometimes you just have to get it off your chest, and once you have you can get back to the important stuff, whether that's studying hard, giving your all on the wards, or truly being with your family and friends when you have that seemingly rare opportunity.

God bless those of you who don't have the urge to rant about the occasional (or frequent, depending on your POV) frustration in medical school. Please don't begrudge those of us who find ourselves ranting from time to time - we all deal with frustrations differently. But I'd suggest also keeping in mind that most things in medical school, while difficult intellectually and emotionally, exist for a purpose; I guess I'd say try to take the good with the bad, and the bad will always pass, like a kidney stone.
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That was very nicely worded. I particularly appreciate the bolded statement. I mostly find it amusing that someone can read the intro to this thread stating "this is just to vent..." and then go on here and say shut up and quit complaining. Seriously?

I don't really have the proper words to vent right now, but studying for step one just makes me feel like constantly banging my head against the wall. I've actually started banging my hands against the table and cussing dramatically while doing uworld qbank questions. Fortunately not while anyone but my cats are around to look at me like I'm nuts. I'm tired of not having a life, I'm tired of being cooped up in my apartment, I'm tired of feeling guilty if I spend any time doing anything other than study. I'm ready for the next stage where at least I'm getting to do something. I'm sure it'll be frustrating in its own way, but man... it has just got to be better than this.
 
edit: Meh, decided not to rant just yet.
 
VoiceofReason said:
What do I hate? Listening to faculty admit that american allopathic medical programs are overly intense to the point of driving otherwise healthy people down into the depths of depression. Then thats the end of it and nobody ever thinks to talk about what plans there are the fix the problem.

Oh my absolute favorite was the entire lecture we had on how to stay mentally healthy in the admittedly unhealthy environment that is american medical school. My eyes almost rolled right out of my god dam head and I got up and left with a visible look of disgust on my face for the lecturer. Not many people that make it to med school really need to be told how to be happy, thats insulting. Fix your training model you braindead assh0les.

edit: ryserr what I mean is everyone seems to know that med school is like hazing but instead of changing that we do nothing. Instead, we have these lectures that don't exactly shift blame from the system onto the students, but in an insidious way make you feel like its your fault. In essence we get, "ya'll are ******ed and lacking in insight when it comes to stress, but thats ok we'll spell it out for you." No, we know what the problems are and what factors contribute to mental discomfort in these situations, we're not stupid. How bout a lecture on what plans there are to make med school less like a hazing ritual.
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Isn't that lecture about 40 minutes of orientation? 😛 (Says the guy that woke up at 5 a.m. on his second day of med school)
 
Hey wow, no one has ranted in 7 years. Sorry to break the streak.

My complaint: this past week felt too much like being watched by a babysitter with a grudge. I work my ass off every day of the week (because I actually WANT to be a good physician - not just the science, but the professionalism as well - please read on to see how superbly professional I am), I'm always near the top of my class, and when I go home I take good care of my family (see? I'm a good guy, honest!). This past week, we had a transition between classes. The whole week was intentionally diluted and not tested, so people pretty much tune out when possible. As the week progressed, we were increasingly reprimanded for lack of attention (huge ****ing surprise, right?).

Friday rolled around and we had a series of lectures on what I would call "lessons I learned by the age of 6" (such as "don't grab your friend in inappropriate places unless they DEMAND it", "if you're going to get high, make sure no one is watching!", and "for every lie you tell, be prepared to make up a dozen more to cover your tracks"). The administrators had gotten fed up with the lack of attention and midway through the day demanded that we close our laptops and focus (attendance at these lectures is mandatory, mind you).

So, there I am in a lecture about drug abuse (not a lecture about how to TREAT drug abuse, rather a lecture meant to scare very, very small children away from drugs.. you know, the kind of presentation that cops give in elementary school classrooms -- come to think of it, did I even show up at the right school on Friday? ugh). And now, instead of being able to study somewhat productively while the well-intentioned individual at the front of the room preaches to the choir, I'm stuck in a mandatory lecture on a topic which I personally have felt very strongly about since I was, oh I don't know -- maybe my son's age??

What's worse, I was so ticked off by the end of the day that I set up an appointment to discuss this "issue" with a faculty member who I THOUGHT would understand my point of view. Yea... I was dumb enough to think that a faculty member would say "no, you're right.. paying attention in class is for dumb***es. You're waaay too smart to be listening to these idiot professors such as.. me and all my friends."

I left the appointment with a realization that not only does the administration view medical students as teeny tiny little children who weaseled their way into medicine despite a complete lack of genuine interest in those things called "patients" (how are they even related to medicine, anyway??), but in fact.. the administration is, at least in part, correct. Many of my classmates are infants and I will no longer be surprised if, in the future, I find my colleagues to appear as though they are bravely taking wobbly steps into an unfamiliar world only to fall down on their faces, crying for their mothers. But the fault is mine for not being more understanding.

Thanks, SDN! I feel much better. Now, back to studying through vacation. 🙂

Oh, also, this post from above was worth reading and repeating:

JPmamd09 said:
Having recently graduated, I would say that one the whole most medical school experiences and challenges are there for a reason. The long hours at the hospital on certain rotations, the occasional (or frequent) "scutwork" (which isn't always true scut - I feel I learned a lot from helping out with scutwork from time to time), the difficult and seemly endless exams and study - all of it is challenging, but in the end you come away learning something either about medicine or about yourself (I know, sounds lame, but really I believe it).

However, there are moments in which it's difficult to find purpose: for me, it was failing my first exam ever during my first year, or getting called stupid by an OB for leaving the suture too long during a repair, or taking care of kids with HbSS pain crises who you know will just be back and in more pain next week (so hard to see kids in such pain, and it felt like such a losing battle). I am of the opinion that it's good to have some forum, whether it's with a friend, family member, spouse, or anonymous internet site, in which we can occasionally vent about how frustrating med school can be from time to time. I personally think it's a healthy thing to do - sometimes you just have to get it off your chest, and once you have you can get back to the important stuff, whether that's studying hard, giving your all on the wards, or truly being with your family and friends when you have that seemingly rare opportunity.

God bless those of you who don't have the urge to rant about the occasional (or frequent, depending on your POV) frustration in medical school. Please don't begrudge those of us who find ourselves ranting from time to time - we all deal with frustrations differently. But I'd suggest also keeping in mind that most things in medical school, while difficult intellectually and emotionally, exist for a purpose; I guess I'd say try to take the good with the bad, and the bad will always pass, like a kidney stone.
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I hope this thread gets more use. I love myself a good rant.

So we have this "class" that goes along with our actual classes that is basically "How to be a doctor 101". A fair amount of it is good, like standardized patient, where we learn how to do clinical stuff, and some of it is not so great, like Patient Centered Outcomes Research (which in theory could be useful but how it's run makes it a waste of 3 hours). In total its like 6 different things, and as a class we are split up into different groups and do a different thing each day we have it.

The thing that I hate is that they basically have 1 guy trying to coordinate all of these classes for 20 or so groups of people, shadowing for EVERY SINGLE STUDENT, getting facilitators for the small group classes that need them, etc. Because of this, you can guarantee that one class a week will be canceled, facilitators won't show up, times will be switched around (which then messes up our own schedules). It's just an all around ****show. You guys have a ton of money, I know that because I give you a ton of money. Just hire another guy.

Edit: I'm also a little disappointed that the person in charge of naming the lectures when they put them online didn't name the second microtubule lecture "Micro2bules".
 
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I'm No Superman said:
I hope this thread gets more use. I love myself a good rant.

So we have this "class" that goes along with our actual classes that is basically "How to be a doctor 101". A fair amount of it is good, like standardized patient, where we learn how to do clinical stuff, and some of it is not so great, like Patient Centered Outcomes Research (which in theory could be useful but how it's run makes it a waste of 3 hours). In total its like 6 different things, and as a class we are split up into different groups and do a different thing each day we have it.

The thing that I hate is that they basically have 1 guy trying to coordinate all of these classes for 20 or so groups of people, shadowing for EVERY SINGLE STUDENT, getting facilitators for the small group classes that need them, etc. Because of this, you can guarantee that one class a week will be canceled, facilitators won't show up, times will be switched around (which then messes up our own schedules). It's just an all around ****show. You guys have a ton of money, I know that because I give you a ton of money. Just hire another guy.

Edit: I'm also a little disappointed that the person in charge of naming the lectures when they put them online didn't name the second microtubule lecture "Micro2bules".
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MY SCHOOL HAS THE SAME THING WITH THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM. I had to drive 40 minutes for shadowing right before an exam, and the physician wasn't even there. We also get an insane amount of useless emails from the coordinator.
 
3rd year rants:
-how people complain about med school being so hard, yet spend no time studying and traveling on the weekends. Literally in 3rd year only about 25% of students actually study.

-how naturally smart people who soak up material like a sponge don't actually know they are smart. That's always a funny conversation. Naturally smart kid:"What are you doing this weekend?
Me: "studying for the shelf"
NSK: "what's there to study??"
Me: "material that I don't see on the floor, or uworld"
NSK: "I did only half of uworld and still got a 90%ile on the shelf last clerkship. You don't have to do uworld."
Me: "I'm like the 99% of the population who actually needs to review material to remember it and not just hear it once on the floors and get it right on a shelf exam 2 months later"
NSK: "geez, why do people study so much."

Seriously, face the fact that people have different baselines of intelligence and ability to learn and remember material.
/rant
 
Jwax said:
That was very nicely worded. I particularly appreciate the bolded statement. I mostly find it amusing that someone can read the intro to this thread stating "this is just to vent..." and then go on here and say shut up and quit complaining. Seriously?

I don't really have the proper words to vent right now, but studying for step one just makes me feel like constantly banging my head against the wall. I've actually started banging my hands against the table and cussing dramatically while doing uworld qbank questions. Fortunately not while anyone but my cats are around to look at me like I'm nuts. I'm tired of not having a life, I'm tired of being cooped up in my apartment, I'm tired of feeling guilty if I spend any time doing anything other than study. I'm ready for the next stage where at least I'm getting to do something. I'm sure it'll be frustrating in its own way, but man... it has just got to be better than this.
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MS3 is not the promised land. You will still be expected to study at the end of 14 hour days. The material you will be studying will not help you function on the wards but is basically just Step 1 material all over again with a few more questions on management. I am doing peds right now and I have gotten like 5-7 UW questions on epiglottis from h. flu epiglottis. I know how to spot something I may never see, but I can't tell you the first thing about treating a basic stuffy nose and cough. I can also tell you that Beckwith-Wiedemann has macroglossia, hemihypertrophy, and predisposes to Wilms and hepatoblastoma so I should get an abdominal US and alpha fetoprotein. However, I can't answer moms question about whether it is ok to be using a certain cream for her kids diaper rash. I think nursing students know more than me about a lot of basic things. I worked with an NP student recently and it was the most humiliating experience ever.

I think med schools should either drop shelf exams and expect more of us on the wards or they should keep shelf exams and give us more time to study as actually being at the hospital doesn't help you prepare at all.

Note: I should clarify that I like zebras. I wish I only dealt with zebras in the future and issues with diaper rashes or runny noses make me want to drop out. The problem is that there is a disconnect between what we are expected to know for exams vs. practical knowledge that you actually use daily.
 
Why would working with an np student be a humiliating experience? Learning about the diaper cream is something you can do on your own time. You will see things like that a lot. There's really no need to test you on it or teach it to you specifically when you will pick up the knowledge from your clinical experience. Medical school teaches you to recognize the things that the np student will never even know exists and you will be able to help your patients.
 
Hi fellow students,

Didn't know the best place to put this, but I thought I would share to both reach out and stay grounded.

I'm in a semi-rough patch right now. I have exams coming up these next few weeks, and I'm worried that it's going to make Thanksgiving a downer. I had a moment where it felt like I would never get them done because of lack of motivation or not enough hours to dedicate in a day, even though that can't be true because A) I learn things quicker the second time round and B) I know what works for me and what doesn't. Plus it doesn't help that I'm picky about things in the past that really don't have bearing on these next exams.

tl;dr...I feel like I have to do something that isn't possible, but I have to do it anyways, regardless of whether I crash or burn, or whether the outcome hurts my feelings. And it's scary.

If you are feeling this way right now, that your goals seem impossible, you are not alone. The only thing I can say at this moment is stick to what you're good at and capitalize on that. Do not change study techniques or routines out of panic, because that is very easy to do when you are stressed out and will only stress you out more.

One more thing--hold to your support system. They want you to succeed, and they will reaffirm your longing to succeed.

If you are on a holiday break, relax. You've made it this far. Enjoy your time. As for studying, keep to it.

You got this.
 
My Rant:

I go to a school with a 1.5 yr P/F cirriculum. There are 6 units in the curriculum (each unit about 2-2.5 months long with ~6 tests at the end of the unit tested in ONE week (these tests include anatomy, histo lab, OSCE, essays, faculty multiple choice and NBME).

This unit now is insane... ALL of biochem, neoplasia, hematology, human development and some embryology and basic immunology with all of the corresponding pathology/histology. Luckily there is no anatomy this unit. I just wish there were shorter units, like an exam right after biochem or right after heme... this is too much. My brain is fried at this point and there's 2 more weeks of classes before exam week.

🙁🙁🙁
 
It's that time of the month again, and this is a safe place to rant right? Well...

Coming into medical school I was happy to get into a good school and I thought I had it figured out for residency, it was as simple as 3 objectives. Publish profusely, get good clinical grades, and don't freaking mess up Step 1. Check, check (so far), and kaboooooom. How did I do everything correctly...Uworld w/ notes, completely memorized sketchy, 3-4 x thru Pathoma, 2 solid times thru FA, and I did well in class...and I BOMBED the crap out of Step 1. I wish someone told me ahead of time that you need intelligence to get the triad correct, and that hard work can make up for some of this but you need to be smart too. Well, it's too bad and too late to back out now. This time next year I'll be back on this thread complaining about not matching I guess. Sucks for me.
 
failedatlife said:
It's that time of the month again, and this is a safe place to rant right? Well...

Coming into medical school I was happy to get into a good school and I thought I had it figured out for residency, it was as simple as 3 objectives. Publish profusely, get good clinical grades, and don't freaking mess up Step 1. Check, check (so far), and kaboooooom. How did I do everything correctly...Uworld w/ notes, completely memorized sketchy, 3-4 x thru Pathoma, 2 solid times thru FA, and I did well in class...and I BOMBED the crap out of Step 1. I wish someone told me ahead of time that you need intelligence to get the triad correct, and that hard work can make up for some of this but you need to be smart too. Well, it's too bad and too late to back out now. This time next year I'll be back on this thread complaining about not matching I guess. Sucks for me.
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Uh how many times are you going to tell us? We don't care.
 
I thought this was the ranting thread and I had permission to rant. I'm clearly not trolling anyone or saying anything mean to anyone. Free speech is still a thing...
 
failedatlife said:
It's that time of the month again, and this is a safe place to rant right? Well...

Coming into medical school I was happy to get into a good school and I thought I had it figured out for residency, it was as simple as 3 objectives. Publish profusely, get good clinical grades, and don't freaking mess up Step 1. Check, check (so far), and kaboooooom. How did I do everything correctly...Uworld w/ notes, completely memorized sketchy, 3-4 x thru Pathoma, 2 solid times thru FA, and I did well in class...and I BOMBED the crap out of Step 1. I wish someone told me ahead of time that you need intelligence to get the triad correct, and that hard work can make up for some of this but you need to be smart too. Well, it's too bad and too late to back out now. This time next year I'll be back on this thread complaining about not matching I guess. Sucks for me.
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Did you really do all this and still fail step 1? Thats discouraging, I failed too but did about 1/3 of what you did. Does UFAP still apply? I took the test recently and the questions are so damn vague and uworld now seems useless. FA, sketchy, and pathoma seem to be where I need to spend more time.
 
1. I hate that I have to come to a forum in order to talk about the problems that I encounter in Medical school. My eyes are bleeding from all the time I've spent on the internet since Med school started in order to find similar experiences, people who've succeeded going through the same, feeling some consolation that the same **** is going on everywhere, etc.

2. I hate that every day it feels like living on an island with a bunch of a**holes who wear white coats.

3. I hate being over-tired all the time and not having or making time to rest because of the fear of not covering up enough material although we know that it's never going to be enough, no matter how much we do.

4. I hate becoming a robot in order to learn and pass all my exams and I hate that I'm not even sure that at the end I'll still be the same person who I want to be.

5. I hate that the outsiders don't understand it and I hate that the insiders don't care about it.

6. I hate that everyone who "made it" feels entitled to act like an arrogant *****, even though Medicine should be about humility

7. I hate that the system is encouraging idiots who only happen to be good at memorization, but otherwise with a messed-up personality ( there are too many overweight and alcoholic students and doctors out there )

8. I hate that I hate so much.

9. I hate that there are so many things to hate.
 
TurbulentWind said:
1. I hate that I have to come to a forum in order to talk about the problems that I encounter in Medical school. My eyes are bleeding from all the time I've spent on the internet since Med school started in order to find similar experiences, people who've succeeded going through the same, feeling some consolation that the same **** is going on everywhere, etc.

2. I hate that every day it feels like living on an island with a bunch of a**holes who wear white coats.

3. I hate being over-tired all the time and not having or making time to rest because of the fear of not covering up enough material although we know that it's never going to be enough, no matter how much we do.

4. I hate becoming a robot in order to learn and pass all my exams and I hate that I'm not even sure that at the end I'll still be the same person who I want to be.

5. I hate that the outsiders don't understand it and I hate that the insiders don't care about it.

6. I hate that everyone who "made it" feels entitled to act like an arrogant *****, even though Medicine should be about humility

7. I hate that the system is encouraging idiots who only happen to be good at memorization, but otherwise with a messed-up personality ( there are too many overweight and alcoholic students and doctors out there )

8. I hate that I hate so much.

9. I hate that there are so many things to hate.
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I think it's hilarious you associate being overweight with a messed up personality.
 
TurbulentWind said:
1. I hate that I have to come to a forum in order to talk about the problems that I encounter in Medical school. My eyes are bleeding from all the time I've spent on the internet since Med school started in order to find similar experiences, people who've succeeded going through the same, feeling some consolation that the same **** is going on everywhere, etc.

2. I hate that every day it feels like living on an island with a bunch of a**holes who wear white coats.

3. I hate being over-tired all the time and not having or making time to rest because of the fear of not covering up enough material although we know that it's never going to be enough, no matter how much we do.

4. I hate becoming a robot in order to learn and pass all my exams and I hate that I'm not even sure that at the end I'll still be the same person who I want to be.

5. I hate that the outsiders don't understand it and I hate that the insiders don't care about it.

6. I hate that everyone who "made it" feels entitled to act like an arrogant *****, even though Medicine should be about humility

7. I hate that the system is encouraging idiots who only happen to be good at memorization, but otherwise with a messed-up personality ( there are too many overweight and alcoholic students and doctors out there )

8. I hate that I hate so much.

9. I hate that there are so many things to hate.
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No doubt about it med school can suck, particularly if the school and it's members are rather less than ideal. IIRC by LCME regulation your school should have a psychologist available to speak to students, and I highly recommend you make use of that service as a lot of your issues arise primarily from your reaction or attitude towards a problem rather than the problem itself.

1. Let me bring your search to a conclusion: S*** happens everywhere, humans are fundamentally pretty good at dealing with s***, you'll be fine whether or not anyone else is going through the particular s*** you are. Stop wasting your time searching and spend it doing something you enjoy or will make you happy (rather than trying to find company for your misery).

2. There are a lot of jerks in white coats, there are a lot of jerks out of white coats. If there's truly nice people in your school for you to associate with then call it a loss and find other people to be friends with.

3. You went through an arduous application and selection process to get into med school and admissions committees do not take people they don't believe can make it through school. Trust in their professional judgement and have the confidence you are able to make it through this. Stop being afraid, get enough sleep, use you study-time efficiently (e.g. Goljan rather than Robbins), and you'll probably have time left over to enjoy life.

4. I'm terrified that as a doctor I will become inured to the suffering of my patients, compromising a fundamental part of myself and my character. The only thing for it is a healthy amount of introspection and a support system. This is something your school's psychologist can help a lot with.

5. This is the tendency for every subdivision of humanity, that outsiders don't know and insiders don't care. Be the change you want to see and keep caring, you'll eventually find yourself in the company of others with the same attitude.

6. Medicine is about healing patients, Science is about humility. Arrogance tends to bite people in the a**, so them feeling entitled to it is their problem not yours. Stop worrying about what other people are doing and focus on becoming a doctor that meets your own ideals.

7. The system encourages people that are willing to put in the necessary work. Cognitive skills only change the amount of work necessary to do well on tests. Social and personal skills are also necessary in medicine and you'll notice that interviews and professionalism play a significant role throughout the medical education process. (Btw, there's something of a revealing inconsistency since the "dinguses" mentioned in 2 would have been more appropriate to note as the people with "messed-up personalities" than the "overweight and alcoholic." I advise you to contemplate why you think the latter groups are what came to mind for you.)

8. You have a particularly unhealthy attitude (hating problems rather than, say, just being frustrated by them), speak to a psychologist.

9. Put things that cause you stress but you can't change/influence out of your mind. If you can't do anything about it (e.g. your classmate's personalities) just derive the implication (e.g. minimize interaction with, and vulnerability to, them) then stop thinking about it.

hope that helped.
 
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