Thoughts on University of Florida's Neurology Program?

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Hello all,

As the season starts to wind down, I'm trying to figure out my rank list. Having interviewed at UofFlorida, on paper it has everything I could want in a program (except for Gainesville itself--the city is kind of lacking imo) but I got a weird vibe from the residents during my interview and other applicants on the trail (as well as a couple people on the google doc) have insinuated it might be somewhat of a malignant program. What are your thoughts on UFlorida? All opinions appreciated!

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Was the only program I seriously considered not ranking. Was asked outright whether I would be ranking them first by the assistant PD and told if not I was wasting their time, from conversations with other applicants in my group I wasn't the only one put into that position. Very strange interactions with residents as well and obviously the town is not ideal. They have a couple of standout divisions (movement, behavioral) to their credit.

Edit to clarify that this was several years ago
 
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Hi, could someone please post a link to the 2018 neurology interview google doc? I have searched for it on the forum and the link posted in another thread is broken. Thanks!
 
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Hi, could someone please post a link to the 2018 neurology interview google doc? I have searched for it on the forum and the link posted in another thread is broken. Thanks!
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V8JpWjis4CwvE4QVBMi4cAe0v8jEpXc8tb09AyRu7UQ/edit#gid=0
 
Was the only program I seriously considered not ranking. Was asked outright whether I would be ranking them first by the PD and told if not I was wasting their time, from conversations with other applicants in my group I wasn't the only one put into that position. Very strange interactions with residents as well and obviously the town is not ideal. They have a couple of standout divisions (movement, behavioral) to their credit.

Wow, really? That sounds bad.

It's too bad they have Kenneth Heilman though!
 
Hey guys, current resident here. I was excited to see UF pop up on the forum, but saddened by the posts 🙁 Can't comment on your personal interview experience, but I can say without a doubt this is the opposite of a malignant program. Our PD, Dr. Wilson is one of the nicest people I've ever met, and I think everyone in the program feels the same way. Some random stuff that comes to mind:

1) When youre on a busy service she will text you to see how your workload is going and make sure youre not violating hours
1a)We have a backup system in place. In theory if things get too busy you can call in extra residents to offload a service. In practice people feel awkward about doing it because youre inconveniencing someone else. Dr. Wilson keeps any eye on the service lists, if things get crazy, she will call in backup herself to make sure you get out in a reasonable hour (doesnt happen that often but the stroke service can occasionally get crazy, especially on weekends when people are off)
2) Earlier today, I found out one of my old classmates had passed away. She went out of her way to contact me and make sure I was doing okay.
3) She bought us really fancy chocolates when we were on service during New Years/Holidays
etc etc

The attendings with few exceptions are also pretty nice and approachable, and we have weekly feedback sessions. Leadership is very receptive, so if any issues do crop up they are usually resolved within a few weeks if not sooner.

I'm good friends with everyone in my class and most of the other residents as well. Overall its a very supportive group with minimal drama, which is great because at the end of the day we all chose to go into neurology and gunning is for other specialties.

Im going to a game night this Saturday with a bunch of the Neuro residents, and tonight Im grabbing a drink with a few friends from medicine. I came to Gainesville from NYC. Its funny because the reason I specifically chose UF was because its a great program with a super laid back atmosphere. If you have any questions feel free to contact me.
 
Hey guys, current resident here. I was excited to see UF pop up on the forum, but saddened by the posts 🙁 Can't comment on your personal interview experience, but I can say without a doubt this is the opposite of a malignant program. Our PD, Dr. Wilson is one of the nicest people I've ever met, and I think everyone in the program feels the same way. Some random stuff that comes to mind:

1) When youre on a busy service she will text you to see how your workload is going and make sure youre not violating hours
1a)We have a backup system in place. In theory if things get too busy you can call in extra residents to offload a service. In practice people feel awkward about doing it because youre inconveniencing someone else. Dr. Wilson keeps any eye on the service lists, if things get crazy, she will call in backup herself to make sure you get out in a reasonable hour (doesnt happen that often but the stroke service can occasionally get crazy, especially on weekends when people are off)
2) Earlier today, I found out one of my old classmates had passed away. She went out of her way to contact me and make sure I was doing okay.
3) She bought us really fancy chocolates when we were on service during New Years/Holidays
etc etc

The attendings with few exceptions are also pretty nice and approachable, and we have weekly feedback sessions. Leadership is very receptive, so if any issues do crop up they are usually resolved within a few weeks if not sooner.

I'm good friends with everyone in my class and most of the other residents as well. Overall its a very supportive group with minimal drama, which is great because at the end of the day we all chose to go into neurology and gunning is for other specialties.

Im going to a game night this Saturday with a bunch of the Neuro residents, and tonight Im grabbing a drink with a few friends from medicine. I came to Gainesville from NYC. Its funny because the reason I specifically chose UF was because its a great program with a super laid back atmosphere. If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

@trevithick that's great to hear about the PD! And I'm glad to hear all the residents get along with one another/hang out outside the hospital--from my interview days it seemed like the residents were friendly people that didn't necessarily know one another well so I'm glad to hear that from your perspective that's not true. Gainesville as a city seems kinda boring though--coming from NYC, do you find there are a lot of things you can do in the city itself during your down time (i.e. things that don't involve driving a few hours each way to get to)? Thanks!
 
I think the PGY2 and 3 classes might be a little tighter than the 4s, maybe that had something to do with it? Regardless, wherever you go you'll be thrust into a program with a bunch of strangers, and the lot of you will have to collectively decide how integrated you want to be as a group

With regards to Gainesville, depends on what you are into and what you like to do in your spare time. Salsa and MMA are pretty big (Ive done a bit of the former, none of the latter). If you are more outdoorsy there's a ton of stuff. The music scene is ok, there are actually some pretty good local bands. I go to a concert a couple times a month, and since alot of groups originate from Gainesville/Tampa/Orlando, you do get headliners coming back to tour their old stomping grounds, but obviously you won't get big names like in a major city. There's also a pretty big punk scene with an annual festival the week for the Florida Georgia game (in case you are so inclined). There are no good indie theaters/art houses; the closest thing is the Hippodrome which has a limited selection. There are three microbreweries in town, and they all have great events on a regular basis. Football is pretty big, regardless of how our team is (or isnt) doing. Medicine holds a tailgate for every game, and the PD goes out of his way to try to make sure people can come, so it can be pretty fun.

As you pointed out, for better or for worse we are 1.5 - 2 hours from three decent sized cities (Orlando, Tampa, and Jacksonville/St Augustine), and people do frequently go out of town for weekends or even day trips (everyone has a car, a car here is a must). You get a fair number of two day weekends, and there is a crazy amount of stuff to do between those three cities. I also sometimes pop up back to NYC (its annoying to have to drive to Orlando, but its a quick cheap flight). The big thing though is cost of living. Despite what anyone tries to tell you, residency pay scale does not scale with cost of living That's true for both ends of the spectrum. The cost of living here is so dirt cheap you save alot of money without even trying, and if you have no dependents you can do pretty well. So the flip side is when you do have free time, you can spend money on airfare, skydiving, festival tickets, theme parks, scuba, whatever. I have friends still in the city doing residency, my preference is definitely to live in Gainesville, go up to NYC and spend freely whenever I want to, then to be perpetually cash strapped. And you still have a decent amount to put towards loans. But your finances may be different, and at the end it comes down to personal preferences

Edit: Being University of Florida, we also have a golf course on campus. Im terrible but if you get a few people together its a pretty good time .
 
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Was the only program I seriously considered not ranking. Was asked outright whether I would be ranking them first by the assistant PD and told if not I was wasting their time, from conversations with other applicants in my group I wasn't the only one put into that position. Very strange interactions with residents as well and obviously the town is not ideal. They have a couple of standout divisions (movement, behavioral) to their credit.

Edit to clarify that this was several years ago

And several years has made a huge difference at UF. I'm a current resident and went here for medical school; since my 4th year the program has nearly tripled faculty, started 3+ new subspecialty practices with fellowships (Neurocrit, immuno, headache, concussion) hired a respected and dynamic chair, and landed the best PD a resident could hope for. Great associate hires internally the past year, with a focus on education. The rest was covered above. Not sure about the resident dynamic issue observed, as sample sizes can be small at dinners/lunches, but we have a diverse mix of residents and I love it. I'm open to PMs to talk more, but I would just ignore this old info when making a decision; UF is a great place to train if you decide that the southeast is a good fit. Good luck in your match.
 
edit - don't want to speak ill of a program based on an interaction from several years ago. Apparently the issue has been addressed and I have no reason to believe they aren't a good place to train now. Suffice it to say that 4-5 years ago they had an assistant PD who made some mistakes when interviewing applicants. It would appear that person is either no longer there, or is not currently involved in program leadership.
 
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The program was restructured a few years ago. I'm not sure when you interviewed, but the people I know don't seem like the type to engage in such shenanigans. And as far as I know, none of my class had an experience like that.
 
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