Timeline from starting residency to finish residency?

[applicant2016]

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So I am starting my intern year this Friday and I am a little bit confused about the timeline of the next three years especially if someone is thinking about a fellowship.

As far as I understand, the next three years will be like this:

PGY1
July 2016-July 2017

PGY2
July 2017- Dec 2017: applications for Cardio/Hemeonco fellowships
May 2017: Match for Cardio/Hemeonco fellowships
July 2018: End of PGY2

PGY3
July 2018-Dec July 2018: Match for other subspecialties
June 2019: End of residency
July 2019: Beginning of a fellowship
October 2019: Set for the peds board exam

Am I right?

 

[PTPoeny]

Yes, that looks about right.

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[applicant2016]

^^

Thanks. But I have seen people starting their fellowship on November, December, and even January, what would be the reason behind this?

And if the timeline above is right, then the peds boards have absolutely no rule in fellowship placements, right?

 

[mvenus929]

So I am starting my intern year this Friday and I am a little bit confused about the timeline of the next three years especially if someone is thinking about a fellowship.

As far as I understand, the next three years will be like this:

PGY1
July 2016-July 2017

PGY2
July 2017- Dec 2017: applications for Cardio/Hemeonco fellowships
May 2017: Match for Cardio/Hemeonco fellowships
July 2018: End of PGY2

PGY3
July 2018-Dec July 2018: Match for other subspecialties
June 2019: End of residency
July 2019: Beginning of a fellowship
October 2019: Set for the peds board exam

Am I right?

Not quite. Applications for Spring Match Fellowships get submitted in December. So you are prepping for them during the first 6 months of your second year, then interviewing in January - March/April, and matching in May. Then you hang out for a year.

Applications for Fall Match Fellowships get submitted in July, and the match is in December. And then you start in July.

You can always go off and take a gap year or two or twenty before applying for fellowship, which helps give you time to prepare for boards. Supposedly your in-training exam (taken in July every year) can have an impact on fellowship placements, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

As for the people starting fellowship off-cycle... there are lots of programs that don't fill every year, and I imagine you can arrange for an off-cycle fellowship if you try for it. Depends on their track record for filling and need for fellows, I imagine. They might also be doing research during the time you aren't seeing them...

 

[FlowLimited]

^^

Thanks. But I have seen people starting their fellowship on November, December, and even January, what would be the reason behind this?

And if the timeline above is right, then the peds boards have absolutely no rule in fellowship placements, right?

Correct. Completing residency makes you "board-eligible" which is typically a requirement for fellowship training. You would then take the exam during your first year of fellowship (or first year of practice) which is offered yearly in October.

 

[oldbearprofessor]

A few minor points about fellowships. First, in-training exam scores are not released to fellowship PDs. They MAY sometimes be discussed by letter writers who have seen them but they should not be part of the process. In general, pediatric boards are not part of the fellowship application because they are taken after fellowship starts as noted above. An exception would be those who have taken a "gap year" (usually chief residents) who would have board passage completed in many cases before interviewing. Not usually a big part of the discussion, although it is nice in big programs to have someone who can work during board and board studying time in the fall.

Off-cycle starts to fellowship in the standard 3 year ACGME fellowships are unusual as they make orientation and scheduling difficulty and are not easy to accommodate based on the match timing. However, usually there are always exceptions for a range of reasons.