To residents at NSLIJ neurology program

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Hi, I am very interested in your program. I would like to ask you all about the schedule at NSLIJ: on the website, it is stated that residents work 75 hours per wk and get two days off in a wk, is that true? And roughly how many patients you carry when on call? Thanks.
 
No one from NSLIJ visit this website?😕
 
I am interested as well. anyone would like to comment?
 
hi i am an MSIV and i just finished a neurlogy elective with both myattendings graduate of the NSLIJ program with one as recent as 1 year ago. they both admited that before northshore and LIJ combined the program was much better but not as good. they both said if one could get the montefier program that is the best. both admited good residentlife and environment.
Hope this helps
 
Thanks for the info, what i heard is that Monty program is very busy and in a bad location (Bronx). I want to be in a program where life is balanced. More comments please?
 
Am I the only one scratching my head on this one? 😛
LOL my bad, what the attending meant was that if one gets offers from other places they should take them other wise the LIJ program used to much better before joining north shore
 
Can someone explain to me how can one has 2 days off in a wk, calls Q5? Is this possible?
 
Hi- am recent grad of nslij:
Prior to the merger, north shore wasn't mentioning and lij was light with good teaching, but small population. the rotation at montefiore helped offset the small amount of interesting pathology at lij.

After the merger, program grew from twice the size while trying to maintain light schedule with good teaching AND see interesting pathology at North Shore. That's why the call schedule is light (last i checked was Q7). However, the calls are brutal. Anywhere between 4-14 consults/admissions a night (record is 20+). So while you may get close to 2 days off per week (averaged over the month), you're typically hurtin during call.

In summary, it is becoming a better program after the merger...but it's still "undergoing transitions."
Hope this helps.
 
Thanks, MDpain, I sent you a PM.
 
PGY2 at NSLIJ here.

Call, during first year, is typically once or twice a week. I get one or two free two-day weekends a month. That's pretty standard, and it's the same deal at Montefiore. The program adheres to the Bell Commission rules restricting residents to less than 80 hours a week averaged over the month. Calls are busy; sometimes you get lucky and get 3 consults, but my personal record is 18, plus progress notes for the floor patients and various followups, it gets to be about survival sometimes. You could make the argument that it makes you a stronger resident, but it definitely is not fun. Call becomes less frequent (Q7, and no weekends, which is beautiful) second year, and third year is like once a month I think.

Monty is not particularly busy on the floors. The consult service can be pretty hairy. The problem over there is that, though the didactics are excellent, there is just too much teaching and not enough time to do your work. You have an hour or so to see patients on the floor before 1 pm. The rest of the morning is essentially 'protected' for morning report, lectures on various topics, and EEG and neurorads conference, and it makes the afternoon the only time to do any work. And what do you do if you have clinic in the afternoon? But very good teaching.

NSLIJ is a solid program with very high patient load and diverse pathology due to large catchment area. I ranked it on top of my list, and I don't regret that. I would definitely rather be here than any other program I ranked. No program is perfect, and no residency should be easy - there's just too much to learn for it to be easy.
 
Looks like NSLIJ was better structured before the merge with NS. However, I do agree no program should be easy for training.
Good luck everyone with our interviews!
 
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