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Anyone see the TODAY SHOW when Cruise was interviewed? :meanie:


CRUISE 'WAR OF WORLDS' INTERVIEW TURNS INTO LECTURE ON PSYCHIATRY, SCIENTOLOGY

NBC 'TODAY SHOW' host Matt Lauer was lectured by star Tom Cruise on the dangers of psychiatry and antidepressant during a promotional interview for WAR OF THE WORLDS.

The exchange aired Friday morning.

LAUER: TOM CRUISE CREATED A FIRESTORM WHEN HE CRITICIZED BROOKE SHIELDS FOR REVEALING THAT SHE WENT INTO THERAPY AND TOOK ANTIDEPRESSANTS TO DEAL WITH HER POST PARTUM DEPRESSION. AS A SCIENTOLGIST, HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN PSYCHIATRIC MEDICINE. I ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS COMMENTS.

CRUISE: i've never agreed with psychiatry, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with psychiatry. and when i started studying the history of psychiatry, i understood more and more why i didn't believe in psychology.

//And as far as the Brooke Shields thing is, look. You gotta understand, I really care about Brooke Shields. I-- I think here's a-- a-- a wonderful and talented woman. And-- I wanna see her do well. And I know that-- psychiatry is-- is a pseudo science.

MATT LAUER: But-- but Tom, if she said that this particular thing helped her feel better, whether it was the antidepressant or going to a counselor or psychiatrist, isn't that enough? //

TOM CRUISE: Matt, you have to understand this. Here we are today where I talk out against drugs and psychiatric abuses of electric shocking people (PH), okay, against their will, of drugging children with them not knowing the effects of these drugs. Do you know what Aderol (PH) is? Do you know Ritalin? Do you know now that Ritalin is a street drug? Do you understand that?

MATT LAUER:

The difference is--

(OVERTALK)

TOM CRUISE:

No, no, Matt.

MATT LAUER:

This wasn't against her will, though.

TOM CRUISE:

Matt-- Matt, Matt, Matt--

MATT LAUER:

But this wasn't against her will.

TOM CRUISE:

Matt, I'm-- Matt, I'm asking you a question.

MATT LAUER:

I understand there's abuse of all of these things.

TOM CRUISE:

No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.//

MATT LAUER:

//aren't there examples, and might not Brooke Shields be an example, of someone who benefited from one of those drugs? TOM CRUISE:

all it does is mask the problem, Matt. And if you understand the history of it, it masks the problem. That's what it does. That's all it does. You're not getting to the reason why. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance.

(OVERTALK)

MATT LAUER:

So, postpartum depression to you is--

TOM CRUISE:

Matt--

MATT LAUER:

--kind of a--

TOM CRUISE:

--don't--

MATT LAUER:

--little psychological gook--

TOM CRUISE:

That--

MATT LAUER:

--googley-gook?

TOM CRUISE:

--no. No. I did not say that.

MATT LAUER:

I'm just asking what you-- what would you call it?

TOM CRUISE:

No. No. Abs-- Matt, that is-- the-- post-- now-- now, you're talking about two different things.

MATT LAUER:

But that's what she went on the--

TOM CRUISE:

No. MATT LAUER:

--antidepressant for.

TOM CRUISE: But what happens, the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem. There's ways of vitamins and through exercise and various things. I'm not saying that that isn't real. That's not what I'm saying. That's an alteration of what-- what I'm saying. I'm saying that drugs aren't the answer, these drugs are very dangerous. They're mind-altering, anti-psychotic drugs. And there are ways of doing it without that so that we don't end up in a brave new world. // the thing that I'm saying about Brooke is that there's misinformation, okay. And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She-- she doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, Matt.

// MATT LAUER: But a little bit what you're saying Tom is, you say you want people to do well. But you want them do to well by taking the road that you approve of, as opposed to a road that may work for them.

TOM CRUISE: No, no, I'm not.

MATT LAUER: Well, if antidepressants work for Brooke Shields, why isn't that okay?

TOM CRUISE: I-- I disagree with it. And I think that there's a higher and better quality of life. And I think that promoting for me personally, see, you're saying what, I can't discuss what I wanna discuss?

MATT LAUER: No. You absolutely can.

TOM CRUISE: I know. But-- but Matt, you're going in and saying that-- that I can't discuss this.

MATT LAUER: I'm only asking, isn't there a possibility that-- do-- do you examine the possibility that these things do work for some people? That yes, there are abuses. And yes, maybe they've gone too far in certain areas. Maybe there are too many kids on Ritalin. Maybe electric shock--

TOM CRUISE: Too many kids on Ritalin? Matt.

MATT LAUER: I'm just saying. But-- but aren't there--

TOM CRUISE: Matt.

MATT LAUER: --examples where it works?

TOM CRUISE: Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even-- you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is.// //if you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt, okay. That's what I've done. Then you go and you say where's-- where's the medical test? Where's the blood test that says how much Ritalin you're supposed to get?

MATT LAUER: You're-- you're-- it's very impressive to listen to you. Because clearly, you've done the homework. And-- and you know the subject.

TOM CRUISE: And you should.

MATT LAUER: And-- and--

TOM CRUISE: And you should do that also.

MATT LAUER: And--

TOM CRUISE: Because just knowing people who are on Ritalin isn't enough. //you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing really--

MATT LAUER: I'm not prescribing Ritalin, Tom. And I'm not asking--

TOM CRUISE: Well--

MATT LAUER: --anyone else to do it. I'm simply saying--

(OVERTALK)

TOM CRUISE: Well, you are. You're saying--

MATT LAUER: I know some people who seem to have been helped by it.

TOM CRUISE: I-- but you're saying-- but you-- like-- this is a very important issue.

MATT LAUER: I couldn't agree more.

TOM CRUISE: It's very-- and you know what? You're here on the Today Show.

MATT LAUER: Right.

TOM CRUISE: And to talk about it in a way of saying, "Well, isn't it okay," and being reasonable about it when you don't know and I do, I think that you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing what it is.

MATT LAUER: But--

TOM CRUISE: Because you-- you communicate to people.

MATT LAUER: But you're now telling me that your experiences with the people I know, which are zero, are more important than my experiences.

TOM CRUISE: What do you mean by that?

MATT LAUER: You're telling me what's worked for people I know or hasn't worked for people I know. // i'm telling you i've lived with these people and they're better.

TOM CRUISE: So, you're-- you're advocating it.

MATT LAUER: I am not. I'm telling you in their case-- (LAUGHTER)

(OVERTALK)

MATT LAUER: In their individual case, it worked. I am not gonna go out and say--

TOM CRUISE: Matt--

MATT LAUER: --"Get your kids on Ritalin. It's the cure-all--

TOM CRUISE: Matt, Matt.

MATT LAUER: --and the end-all."

TOM CRUISE: Matt, but here's the point. what is the ideal scene for life

TOM CRUISE: Okay. Ideal scene is someone not having to take anti-psychotic drugs.

MATT LAUER: I would agree.

TOM CRUISE: Okay. So, now you look at-- and you go okay. A-- a departure from that ideal scene is someone taking drugs, okay. And then you go, okay. What is the theory and the science behind that, that justifies that?

MATT LAUER: Let me take this more general, 'cause I think you and I can go around in circles on this for awhile. And i respect your opinion ...

MATT LAUER: Do you want more people to understand Scientology? Is that-- would that be a goal of yours?

TOM CRUISE: You know what? I-- absolutely. Of course, you know. And people--

MATT LAUER: How do you go about that?

TOM CRUISE: You just communicate about it. And the important thing is, like you and I talk about it, whether it's-- okay, if I wanna know something, I go and find out. /Because I don't talk about things that I don't understand. I'll say, you know what? I'm not so sure about that. I'll go find more information about it so I can-- I can come to an opinion based on-- on the information that I have.

MATT LAUER: You-- you're so passionate about it. And I'm--

TOM CRUISE: I'm passionate about learning. I'm passionate about life, Matt.

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Just for the record, I agree with Tom Cruise. He's done his research. Have you really dug through the information and made an open-minded decision or have you just blindly accepted what you are taught in school?

There are benefits to the industry in getting large numbers of people on these antidepressant drugs. How many of the people taking these drugs were told initially that regular exercise can produce the same effects as these drugs? I know that when I went to see a psychiatrist about a specific problem (exacerbated by stress during finals), he suggested I start taking Zoloft about 30 minutes after meeting me for the first time. I chose instead to work through my problem on my own and I am a stronger, more capable person for it.

Sorry guys, but I think Cruise has a point. I am concerned about the Brave New World we are ushering in too. Did any of you read this book? If so, do you see the connection between Soma in the book and Prozac today? Do you see the negative implications of these drugs?

Unlike Cruise, I think that chemical imbalances exist (although I don't like that term, it makes it sound unnatural and negative). In some people these imbalances can be persistent and seemingly unexplainable, and make life so difficult that medication is the answer. But in MANY other cases, my opinion is that these feelings are short term, natural signals that are beneficial by telling you that something is wrong and a change in your life needs to be made. In these cases, taking drugs not only masks the problem and creates a dependence, but more alarmingly it prevents the person from attacking the root of the problem and moving on to a better life. For example, if you are going through a divorce, of course you will feel depressed. Should a person automatically take drugs to feel better, or should he/she work through the pain, examine what went wrong, and figure out how to cope?
 
You don't know how to nor are you qualified to assess what's best or practical for a depressed patient.

I took Lexapro for a few months after my divorce. If I hadn't I probably would have ended up dropping out of school.
 
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For Mr. Cruise to make a blanket pronouncement that all psychiatry is wrong and all psychiatric drugs are wrong is just plain ignorance. He's an example of someone who has all the answers for all of humanity. I couldn't sit through the interview and couldn't read all of the transcript.

Not that I disagree with him... As a person with a history of somewhat serious depression and anxiety, I tried SSRIs and benzos. For me, they weren't the answer. They seemed to create more problems than they solved. I found that CBT worked wonders. Does that mean that I can pronounce to my catatonic friend that she only rely on CBT? Mr. Cruise has just gotten so wrapped up in himself that he doesn't know where he ends and other people begin (that's my assessment anyway).

Regarding Ritalin, again I agree with him. I wrote a paper a few semesters ago that railed on the pharmaceutical and medical industries for pushing hyperactivity onto society without really understanding the long-term effects of dosing kids with stimulants. Does that mean that Ritalin isn't called for in some cases? Of course not and I'd never go on national TV and pronounce otherwise.

I'm sick of Tom Cruise (and Katie Holmes for that matter). I love Steven Spielberg, but I'm gonna skip "War of the Worlds". :meanie:

Troy
 
Can we just stop considering celebrities as people and more as puppets?

Thank You.

(And I didn't read more than the subject)
 
You don't understand, you don't understand. You have not studied this. I have studied this and I know. I would be spouting off like this even if I were speaking to a health care professional because I am wealthy and used to having my way. They don't call me LASERHEAD for nothing :laugh:
 
If you happened to catch any of Cruise's recent appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show, you'd have to conclude that he suffers from untreated bipolar disorder. The guy was so manic that he - literally - could not sit in his seat.

I liked him better when he was private and mysterious, and no one knew what he was really like.
 
UTstdnt said:
Just for the record, I agree with Tom Cruise. He's done his research. Have you really dug through the information and made an open-minded decision or have you just blindly accepted what you are taught in school?


Sorry guys, but I think Cruise has a point. I am concerned about the Brave New World we are ushering in too. Did any of you read this book? If so, do you see the connection between Soma in the book and Prozac today? Do you see the negative implications of these drugs?

Unlike Cruise, I think that chemical imbalances exist ?


I agree with him also, but it is very difficult to make blanket generalizations about anything. Psychiatry is both art and science. The state of the art is very crude and we do the best we can. Take away the chemical straitjacket and what are we left with, shackles and rubber hoses that leave no marks? Euthanasia? Exile? It has all been done before.

Smoke and mirrors, Voodoo medicine, Black magic.

SPEAKING of black magic. I wonder if Mr Cruise would be willing to admit that that he is only spouting the party line

http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/cchr-cult-faq.htm

Would Mr Cruise talk about the REAL problem even though it is a closely guarded secret; that for several hundred thousand dollars Scientology
will help you to exorcise your evil thetan infestation and that by doing so you may feel happier and restore your "psychic powers"

http://www.cnbc.cmu.edu/~dst/Xenu/annarbor-orange-handout.txt

Or that rocket scientist Jack Parsons, and Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard continued the Magickal work of the infamous Aleister Crowley?

http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm

Indeed, does he even know? I have read that Tom Cruise is high on the scientology ladder, but does he yet have access to the inner secrets? Does he know that Scientology was started as a joke?

http://tafkac.org/religion/hubbard_heinlein_bet.html

What it boils down to is a clash between paradigms and the pot calling the kettle black! 🙄

I have way too much time on my hands. I need to go back to work
 
thats crazy!! the root word of scientology is "science" and this guy is bashing it by ripping on drugs and everything behind them. there are billions of $$$ and tons of man hours that go into researching and studying these drugs and the pathopysiology etc, and the people that do this are pretty much geniuses in thier areas of practice.

tom cruise is a jackass. "i've done the research!" I'm sure he's read all sorts of journal articles and publications..... jackass
 
meh

I think that mind altering meds are overprescribed to people who probably don't need them.

That is not to say that there is never a need for these drugs.

The drug companies that crank out paxil, prozac, etc want as many patients as possible because they are making a fortune off these things. I would certainly be suspicious of a company that was making the big bucks off of aldous huxley's "Soma".

I have had depression off and on since i was 13.

I rely on exercise and hobbies to manage a bout of depression. A lot of it can be cured by changes in your life or the way you are thinking about things. Honest to god, some people work themselves into a depression with negative thinking and it is not always a "chemical imbalance".

I do not believe that for every person (of the millions) who take antidepressants lies a chemical imbalance because that would be an extraordinary number of people with malfunctioning brains.

A mind altering drug may only mask things in your life that need to be fixed. If you are unhappy with someone in your life get rid of them rather than take the meds. etc. (similar to a story someone told on here of a woman who was prescribed pain killers when there was actually something wrong with a joint replacement that needed surgery. Sometimes the root of the problem is easily fixed and it is not always a job for drugs).

Don't flame me for this , i have a right to think that these drugs are a money making racket in some instances and they are overprescribed. To deny that there is no chance this is so would be an extraordinary display of a failure to look at the issue from all sides.
 
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I can't stand it when movie stars think they're scientists. Here's Tom Cruise who didn't even graduate from high school telling the whole world about psychiatry. What a joke! He should stick to making movies. If I want to hear about psychiatric drugs, I'll talk to a physician (DO or MD), pharmacist, etc, not to a damn actor. Besides Tom Cruise, another actor that thinks he knows everything is Nicholas Cage. I can't believe these suckers make millions of dollars. I have no respect for entertainers that try to lecture us on science, politics, etc.
 
I love Brad Pitt....

He said....
"You shouldn't speak until you know what you're talking about. That's why I get uncomfortable with interviews. Reporters ask me what I feel China should do about Tibet. Who cares what I think China should do? I'm a f---ing actor! They hand me a script. I act. I'm here for entertainment, basically, when you whittle everything away. I'm a grown man who puts on makeup." - Time, October 13, 1997
 
most major hollywood actors (especially brad pitt) are a pile of phony weasels in a burlap bag.
 
Bah, Tom Cruise isn't even a good actor. He should work on his chosen profession before he pretends to be an expert in another :idea:

Are too many people prescibed antidepressants? I don't doubt it. Does that mean there isn't a valid reason for other people to be prescribed them? Not all doctors are so capricious in their prescribing as the example sited by UTstdnt. I can attest to that fact.

Does Prozac resemble Soma? Uh no. I have yet to take a Prozac Holiday. Anyone that thinks antidepressants are "happy" pills that calm you into a drooling indifference doesn't know what they're talking about. To many people they are literally life-saving medications. Thorazine maybe, but methinks that is not what we're referring to here.

And as someone who has struggled with depression for 20+ years and living in a "Prozac fog" for 8 of those :meanie: , yes I think depression has a biological cause. Medication isn't the only therapy I use but it is a necessary component for me. I don't think I'm any weaker of a person because of that.
 
aubieRx said:
most major hollywood actors (especially brad pitt) are a pile of phony weasels in a burlap bag.

wow, and I thought you didn't like spanish speaking immigrants. Tell us how you really feel. :scared:
 
bbmuffin said:
I love Brad Pitt....

He said....
"You shouldn't speak until you know what you're talking about. That's why I get uncomfortable with interviews. Reporters ask me what I feel China should do about Tibet. Who cares what I think China should do? I'm a f---ing actor! They hand me a script. I act. I'm here for entertainment, basically, when you whittle everything away. I'm a grown man who puts on makeup." - Time, October 13, 1997

Not only is he cute, but he's smart too!!!
 
gablet said:
Not only is he cute, but he's smart too!!!
I just really liked the attitude.

Personally, I'm going to marry Matt Damon
 
museabuse said:
wow, and I thought you didn't like spanish speaking immigrants. Tell us how you really feel. :scared:

What does that have to do with my feelings about hollyweird?
 
I don't totally agree with Tom. But I notice that doctors and patients tend to abuse antidepressants. A person that I know is addicted to antidepressant and sleeping pills for at least a decade. The more pills she took the worse off she was. I talked to her about exercising and now she's off the sleeping pills.

I strongly believe in exercising. However, in severe cases, drugs are good to relieve symptoms.
 
BERLIN (Reuters) - Hollywood actor Tom Cruise not only battles creatures from outer space in his latest film "War of the Worlds," he also believes aliens exist, he told a German newspaper on Wednesday.
Asked in an interview with the tabloid daily Bild if he believed in aliens, Cruise said: "Yes, of course. Are you really so arrogant as to believe we are alone in this universe?

"Millions of stars, and we're supposed to be the only living creatures? No, there are many things out there, we just don't know," Cruise, 42, said in the interview published in German.

I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell my name right --Harry S Truman

tom-cruise.jpg

Tom Cruise; Movie Star or Pod Person?
 
baggywrinkle said:
BERLIN (Reuters) - Hollywood actor Tom Cruise not only battles creatures from outer space in his latest film "War of the Worlds," he also believes aliens exist, he told a German newspaper on Wednesday.
Asked in an interview with the tabloid daily Bild if he believed in aliens, Cruise said: "Yes, of course. Are you really so arrogant as to believe we are alone in this universe?

"Millions of stars, and we're supposed to be the only living creatures? No, there are many things out there, we just don't know," Cruise, 42, said in the interview published in German.

I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell my name right --Harry S Truman
Isn't all of that part of the Scientology beliefs?

I mean i wasn't shocked about the alien thing at all... I think that is part of their "religion"
 
bbmuffin said:
Isn't all of that part of the Scientology beliefs?

I mean i wasn't shocked about the alien thing at all... I think that is part of their "religion"

Sounds like a job for Homeland Security
 
baggywrinkle said:
Sounds like a job for Homeland Security

so would we then be on the green level for alertness? :laugh:
 
baggywrinkle said:
BERLIN (Reuters) - Hollywood actor Tom Cruise not only battles creatures from outer space in his latest film "War of the Worlds," he also believes aliens exist, he told a German newspaper on Wednesday.
Asked in an interview with the tabloid daily Bild if he believed in aliens, Cruise said: "Yes, of course. Are you really so arrogant as to believe we are alone in this universe?

"Millions of stars, and we're supposed to be the only living creatures? No, there are many things out there, we just don't know," Cruise, 42, said in the interview published in German.

]


I believe aliens exist too. Not necessarily anywhere in this solar system . But somewhere out there....something else has to exist. the universe is too big to only be a container for humanity. Humanity could fit very well into a solar system sized universe 😀
 
aubieRx said:
I believe aliens exist too. Not necessarily anywhere in this solar system . But somewhere out there....something else has to exist. the universe is too big to only be a container for humanity. Humanity could fit very well into a solar system sized universe 😀

I happen to agree with you that other intelligent life may exist somewhere else in the universe but I wouldn't call someone arrogant who believed humans were the only form of intelligent life in the universe.
 
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