Touro Nevada Vs. Midwestern Arizona ASAP

[Dark Knight87]

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Which is a better school?

Better in terms of residency match? like ortho, dermatology, anesthesiology, surgery.

I need some feedback asap, since touro only gives you 2 weeks to decide.

Thanks

 

[Loudster]

Which is a better school?

Better in terms of residency match? like ortho, dermatology, anesthesiology, surgery.

I need some feedback asap, since touro only gives you 2 weeks to decide.

Thanks

Call and get match lists. Other than that, nobody can really make the decision for you. Which school do you feel you'd be more successful at? Both schools can get you where you want to go provided you put forth the work for yourself. I've personally toured both schools and thought highly of each for different reasons. Midwestern has a better campus atmosphere, which I felt would make it easier to study (and therefore easier to do well, and improve chances for residencies) but that's not to say that I thought TouroNV would be a bad place to be.

I kinda hate these "which is better threads" because there's never a solid answer. Seems schools each have their pros and cons and whether they're "better" or "worse" really depends a lot more on who you are and less about whether one schools is definitively "better" than the other according to a stranger on the internet.

 

[Dyingduck]

Which is a better school?

Better in terms of residency match? like ortho, dermatology, anesthesiology, surgery.

I need some feedback asap, since touro only gives you 2 weeks to decide.

Thanks

AZCOM

Last year match: Allo/Derm/Mayo Clinic/Rochester, Minnesota

 

[mustang1]

There are no discernible differences other than the fact that AZCOM's campus is the Garden of Eden and Touro is a yellow Costco-looking building. The fact that anyone would look at a match list of any DO school and assume the school's reputation, curriculum, whatever some how had anything to do with a student matching Derm at Mayo is laughable. I am a DO student and have learned very quickly that how far you want to go is ENTIRELY up to you. Want to do research with any relative significance to your field of interest? You're on your own. Want to match at a prestigious MD residency? You guessed it, on you're own. YOU need to network, YOU need to work your ass off. Your school is good for two things 1) giving you the title of med student that makes you eligible to work your ass off and prove yourself and 2)cashing checks. I know the kid that matched derm at Mayo. He against the advice of many on faculty at AZCOM did not relax the summer between MSI and MSII. He researched at a prestigious MD program and published. ON HIS OWN. He studied for the boards far earlier and harder than the admin types recommended. But they love to publish and take credit for his success. "He followed none of our advice and did absolutely no research at our facilities and matched derm at Mayo. See we are awesome". To the OP your odds at killing it in the match are equally good at both programs. I am in no way bitter (although it may sound like I am) of my lot as a DO Student or my chosen program, but all pre-meds and med students alike need to realize that to break from the herd and be spectacular they need to do spectacular things that are rarely offered at DO programs. Hard to find? Sure. Doable? Of course! Best of luck on your journey

 

[randomusername]

there are no discernible differences other than the fact that azcom's campus is the garden of eden and touro is a yellow costco-looking building. The fact that anyone would look at a match list of any do school and assume the school's reputation, curriculum, whatever some how had anything to do with a student matching derm at mayo is laughable. I am a do student and have learned very quickly that how far you want to go is entirely up to you. Want to do research with any relative significance to your field of interest? You're on your own. Want to match at a prestigious md residency? You guessed it, on you're own. You need to network, you need to work your ass off. Your school is good for two things 1) giving you the title of med student that makes you eligible to work your ass off and prove yourself and 2)cashing checks. I know the kid that matched derm at mayo. He against the advice of many on faculty at azcom did not relax the summer between msi and msii. He researched at a prestigious md program and published. On his own. He studied for the boards far earlier and harder than the admin types recommended. But they love to publish and take credit for his success. "he followed none of our advice and did absolutely no research at our facilities and matched derm at mayo. See we are awesome". To the op your odds at killing it in the match are equally good at both programs. I am in no way bitter (although it may sound like i am) of my lot as a do student or my chosen program, but all pre-meds and med students alike need to realize that to break from the herd and be spectacular they need to do spectacular things that are rarely offered at do programs. Hard to find? Sure. Doable? Of course! Best of luck on your journey

+1

 

[Dyingduck]

There are no discernible differences other than the fact that AZCOM's campus is the Garden of Eden and Touro is a yellow Costco-looking building. The fact that anyone would look at a match list of any DO school and assume the school's reputation, curriculum, whatever some how had anything to do with a student matching Derm at Mayo is laughable. I am a DO student and have learned very quickly that how far you want to go is ENTIRELY up to you. Want to do research with any relative significance to your field of interest? You're on your own. Want to match at a prestigious MD residency? You guessed it, on you're own. YOU need to network, YOU need to work your ass off. Your school is good for two things 1) giving you the title of med student that makes you eligible to work your ass off and prove yourself and 2)cashing checks. I know the kid that matched derm at Mayo. He against the advice of many on faculty at AZCOM did not relax the summer between MSI and MSII. He researched at a prestigious MD program and published. ON HIS OWN. He studied for the boards far earlier and harder than the admin types recommended. But they love to publish and take credit for his success. "He followed none of our advice and did absolutely no research at our facilities and matched derm at Mayo. See we are awesome". To the OP your odds at killing it in the match are equally good at both programs. I am in no way bitter (although it may sound like I am) of my lot as a DO Student or my chosen program, but all pre-meds and med students alike need to realize that to break from the herd and be spectacular they need to do spectacular things that are rarely offered at DO programs. Hard to find? Sure. Doable? Of course! Best of luck on your journey

+2.

Just answering OP.

 

[AvocadoLover]

Hi there! Congrats on your acceptances. Here is a link to the Touro NV match lists: http://www.tunlive.com/match. If you have any specific questions about Touro NV feel free to ask me. I am a first year and I am very happy with my decision to come here.

 

[Dark Knight87]

Hi there! Congrats on your acceptances. Here is a link to the Touro NV match lists: http://www.tunlive.com/match. If you have any specific questions about Touro NV feel free to ask me. I am a first year and I am very happy with my decision to come here.

how's faculty? are they really helpful? do you have to make office hours or is it just open door?

 

[mustang1]

how's faculty? are they really helpful? do you have to make office hours or is it just open door?

Bro/Sis,
I hate to beat up on you but...med school is all about self-directed learning. Helpful or not, open-door, closed-door, half-open door it doesn't matter. You are going to end up memorizing all the notes on your own. All the material is pretty easy, just ALOT of it. So much to memorize you will begin to resent anything that has required attendance and will probably abandon going to class all together. I never would have guessed I would be the one to say this. When I was a pre-med and heard some of my med school buddies skipped class I was like, "For fifty grand a year my butt is going to be in the chair for every lecture". But you can't do everything. You realize that you need to maximize every second you have and if sitting in lecture aint cutting it like sitting in the library and reading (few people actually LEARN COLD better in lecture than on their own) you need to triage. Best of luck in your decision. Just trying to pass on knowledge I wish I had when I was in your shoes. Good luck! Deposit time is a bit stressful.
~Mustang

 

[ILEMres]

Which is a better school?

Better in terms of residency match? like ortho, dermatology, anesthesiology, surgery.

I need some feedback asap, since touro only gives you 2 weeks to decide.

Thanks

Touro has all your clinical training in Vegas, and the rotations are at touro residency programs in Vegas. I.e., you get a real education. Know this - tour nv boasts more residency slots (all in Vegas; yes more than pcom) than any other osteopathic school in the nation.

 

[Sinfest]

how's faculty? are they really helpful? do you have to make office hours or is it just open door?

Open door policy

Overall, I'm very happy with the faculty. Many of them are very engaging and go out of their way to help you. There are a couple I dislike, but I'm sure that's the case at every school.

AZCOM and TUNCOM are both solid schools. You can't go wrong with either one

 

[Dark Knight87]

Touro has all your clinical training in Vegas, and the rotations are at touro residency programs in Vegas. I.e., you get a real education. Know this - tour nv boasts more residency slots (all in Vegas; yes more than pcom) than any other osteopathic school in the nation.

yes i was very surprised to see the touro's residency match. are you a graduate from touro nv?

 

[okayplayer]

As an AZCOM grad staring loan repayment in the face, I say go wherever is cheaper. As stated nicely above, you are going to succeed based on your own effort, not your school handfeeding you anything.

By the way, I know Kevin well. He is an absolute baller. His success obviously has very little to do with the school and much more to do with his own work ethic/personality.

 

[kazuma]

There are no discernible differences other than the fact that AZCOM's campus is the Garden of Eden and Touro is a yellow Costco-looking building. The fact that anyone would look at a match list of any DO school and assume the school's reputation, curriculum, whatever some how had anything to do with a student matching Derm at Mayo is laughable. I am a DO student and have learned very quickly that how far you want to go is ENTIRELY up to you. Want to do research with any relative significance to your field of interest? You're on your own. Want to match at a prestigious MD residency? You guessed it, on you're own. YOU need to network, YOU need to work your ass off. Your school is good for two things 1) giving you the title of med student that makes you eligible to work your ass off and prove yourself and 2)cashing checks. I know the kid that matched derm at Mayo. He against the advice of many on faculty at AZCOM did not relax the summer between MSI and MSII. He researched at a prestigious MD program and published. ON HIS OWN. He studied for the boards far earlier and harder than the admin types recommended. But they love to publish and take credit for his success. "He followed none of our advice and did absolutely no research at our facilities and matched derm at Mayo. See we are awesome". To the OP your odds at killing it in the match are equally good at both programs. I am in no way bitter (although it may sound like I am) of my lot as a DO Student or my chosen program, but all pre-meds and med students alike need to realize that to break from the herd and be spectacular they need to do spectacular things that are rarely offered at DO programs. Hard to find? Sure. Doable? Of course! Best of luck on your journey

+3 or 4. I know a fair number of colleagues that got burned by listening to the advice of our admin/faculty at DMU. I agree with averything in the post above. Granted I didn't do anything crazy competitive (ACGME Gas) but I highly doubt I would have been successful had I listened to my advisors. I did some research between M1/M2, took both USMLE steps and had all of my letters, scores etc submitted on Sept 1. I also took the Comlex PE during my third year (so I didn't have to leave during auditions) despite a negative/somewhat threatening email I received from the dean of clinical affairs a day or two before the exam. He was warning me not to take it before our "DMU clinical competence assessment" between M3/M4.

I agree with Okayplayer, go to the school that's the cheapest. It also helps if they give you freedom in your 4th year for out rotations. Some schools only allow 1 or 2 out rotations and most have a limit in the total number of weeks you can do in a particular specialty. It seems like I could have done a whole year of straight FP if I wanted to, but specialties had a ~12 week max limit.

 

[IDBasco]

I agree with Okayplayer, go to the school that's the cheapest.

This applies to pretty much every school A vs. B question on the DO forums.

Some schools only allow 1 or 2 out rotations and most have a limit in the total number of weeks you can do in a particular specialty. It seems like I could have done a whole year of straight FP if I wanted to, but specialties had a ~12 week max limit.

So true about DMU...

 

[dbizzy]

Bro/Sis,
I hate to beat up on you but...med school is all about self-directed learning. Helpful or not, open-door, closed-door, half-open door it doesn't matter. You are going to end up memorizing all the notes on your own. All the material is pretty easy, just ALOT of it. So much to memorize you will begin to resent anything that has required attendance and will probably abandon going to class all together. I never would have guessed I would be the one to say this. When I was a pre-med and heard some of my med school buddies skipped class I was like, "For fifty grand a year my butt is going to be in the chair for every lecture". But you can't do everything. You realize that you need to maximize every second you have and if sitting in lecture aint cutting it like sitting in the library and reading (few people actually LEARN COLD better in lecture than on their own) you need to triage. Best of luck in your decision. Just trying to pass on knowledge I wish I had when I was in your shoes. Good luck! Deposit time is a bit stressful.
~Mustang

Good pointers, thanks for this

 

[Skippygonenuts]

Touro is the bomb...

every school has ups and downs...faculty is willing to help...open door policy..

and we have Dr. Roy!

 

[r90t]

If you want to get into a top Residency program. I published on my own to get into rad onc. The other azcom grad that is a pgy-2 in rad onc also published during ms3/4. If you go to class, get decent grades and board scores, NOTHING separates you from your peers, regardless of program. With that said, my friends from azcom include allopathic residencies in: radiology, rad onc, anesthesia, gyn, and pmr. We were friends that helped each other and we all did extra because we knew That we did not want a DO FP residency.

You must set your goals. The volleyball courts at azcom are great, but I was too busy studying to use them.

As far as azcom, expensive, nice area, and it was a decent education.