transitional on the primary rank list?

[pej933]

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Should I rank transitional year all by itself, just in case I don't match into an advanced program. Might as well get a year of training done and reapply, right?

 

[NoodleIncident]

Should I rank transitional year all by itself, just in case I don't match into an advanced program. Might as well get a year of training done and reapply, right?

Yes

 

[pej933]

thanks

 

[NoodleIncident]

thanks

No prob. Just add it to your primary list after all of your anesthesia programs.

 

[chicamedica]

so i'm still confused about whether to do this. . .

There are tons of prelim med and transitional programs that dont fill. Why not just scramble for one?

I'm dreading the possibility that Trisomy mentioned in the other thread that if you rank a prelim on the primary ROL, and you end up going all the way down the list to match there, you wont find out that you need to scramble. That would be a shame.

I dont know, maybe the issue with me is I dont want to go through this application process again, not to mention doing it during INTERN year. I'd rather scramble, if the need came for that. (hopefully not though!)

 

[freshity]

there is NO POSSIBILITY of not finding out into which sort of program you need to scramble if you do not match. i think it is on the nrmp website (maybe i can't remember), but you find out in general terms what your matching entails when you get the notice. for ex, congrats you matched (no scramble at all) vs. congrats you matched into a prelim.ty year (scramble for advanced) vs. sorry you did not match (scramble like a fiend). hopefully that will help you to worry about the right things. 😉

however, i think it's a fair quesiton to ask yourself whether you would rather leave open the option to scramble into categorical and advanced programs, thus not ranking prelims/ty's at the end of the list for fear of removing that possibility. that's something to think about...

 

[vegas]

there is NO POSSIBILITY of not finding out into which sort of program you need to scramble if you do not match. i think it is on the nrmp website (maybe i can't remember), but you find out in general terms what your matching entails when you get the notice. for ex, congrats you matched (no scramble at all) vs. congrats you matched into a prelim.ty year (scramble for advanced) vs. sorry you did not match (scramble like a fiend). hopefully that will help you to worry about the right things. 😉

however, i think it's a fair quesiton to ask yourself whether you would rather leave open the option to scramble into categorical and advanced programs, thus not ranking prelims/ty's at the end of the list for fear of removing that possibility. that's something to think about...

Yes, you are right! Here are the notices NRMP will either send you:
1) Congrats you've matched (therefore no worries-you've secured your categorical or advanced/prelim positions)
2)Matched for PGY-1 (therefore you've secured a trans/prelim position but not an anesthesia. residency therefore scramble for advanced positions ONLY!)
3)Matched for PGY-2 (therefore you've secured an anesthesia residency but not trans/prelim position so you scramble for those)
4)You have not matched (this obviously means you scramble and you can do so for both categorical and advanced programs keeping in mind you also have to scramble for trans/prelim programs also.)

I am also facing this same dilemma......should I include trans./prelim in my primary list??? this then limits me to only advanced programs in the scramble. Any wise person with some good advice PLEASE help before 9pm eastern time today!!! Thank you!

 

[chicamedica]

there is NO POSSIBILITY of not finding out into which sort of program you need to scramble if you do not match. i think it is on the nrmp website (maybe i can't remember), but you find out in general terms what your matching entails when you get the notice. for ex, congrats you matched (no scramble at all) vs. congrats you matched into a prelim.ty year (scramble for advanced) vs. sorry you did not match (scramble like a fiend). hopefully that will help you to worry about the right things. 😉

however, i think it's a fair quesiton to ask yourself whether you would rather leave open the option to scramble into categorical and advanced programs, thus not ranking prelims/ty's at the end of the list for fear of removing that possibility. that's something to think about...

But if the prelim program is on your primary rank list, will the computer be able to tell that it's just a prelim and that you want additional training in something else? Well, I guess that IS the only way one could match only into a prelim position (possibility #2 in vegas' list).

 

[pej933]

If you look at what went unmatched last year, I believe it was just about all advanced positions.

This year, with the increase in interest and applications (700 for one program) for anesthesiology, I'm fearful that there's not going to be much of a scramble and even if there is, there are so many people who want to get a spot that it will be one hell of a thing to pull off.

I guess we just have to wait and see.

 

[Idiopathic]

so i'm still confused about whether to do this. . .

There are tons of prelim med and transitional programs that dont fill. Why not just scramble for one?

I'm dreading the possibility that Trisomy mentioned in the other thread that if you rank a prelim on the primary ROL, and you end up going all the way down the list to match there, you wont find out that you need to scramble. That would be a shame.

I dont know, maybe the issue with me is I dont want to go through this application process again, not to mention doing it during INTERN year. I'd rather scramble, if the need came for that. (hopefully not though!)

In my case, there is only one in my hometown. I would hate to have to move for internship and move again for PGY-2. So, I would rather match prelim and scramble for pgy-2 than scramble for both potentially.

 

[Idiopathic]

If you look at what went unmatched last year, I believe it was just about all advanced positions.

A good, point. Invariably, categorical positions fill first, and advamnced positoins are usually 'left over'.