TY Rank List (specifically for radiology...)

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Hey all, this might not necessarily be the correct forum to post this question in, but because I'm looking for input specifically in regards to a radiology residency future, I thought this place would get the most hits/replies.

Anyways, I'm trying to create my transitional list ranking but for the most part all of these programs seemed more of less the same to me on interview day... The places I'm considering with a brief description of what I thought are as follows;

*side-note* I would prefer a smaller town vs big city for intern year, don't mind living out in the middle of now where but at the same time wouldn't care one way or the other if there was a biggish city within a 1-2 hours driving distance. My goal for intern year is to just get through it and have as much free time to use as I see fit (whether it be learning medicine or something completely irrelevant to medicine). I would also highly like to be able to live within a few minutes drive or walking distance from the program as I hate long commutes...

University of South Dakota;
For whatever reason, this place seemed like it had the easiest schedule of anywhere I interviewed at. Free food all day long, lots of electives and I liked the town. Current TY's seemed to like it a lot.

University of North Dakota;
Schedule seemed on the easier side. Fargo does get pretty cold but that is better than it being super hot to me. Only was able to talk about the program with 1 current TY who went to med school there so felt like he might have been biased towards the town/not having to move. PD seemed nice and resident oriented/flexible.

Christiana Care TY;
Staff and PD seemed nice enough, current residents said they didn't work too hard. Almost too close to Philly for me (I don't like philly...) Not sure what else to say about the program itself. Sounded like residents worked a little more than the above two programs.

Oakwood TY (Dearborn);
I'm originally from North West Ohio so familiar with the area. I know in the past its been called jokewood but it didn't come off as especially easy to me. Not difficult by any means though. Cheapish place to live for a year.

Riverside TY, VA;
On an island with big military population if I recall correctly. Commute for 1 month during year to some other hospital was around 30-45 minutes, not terrible if the rest of the year was quick commute. Again, current TYs seemed happy, staff was nice, middle of the road for hours worked is what I gathered.

McNeal TY;
In Chicago, enough said for me (in a bad way, haha). It actually sounded like one of the harder TY's I interviewed at too so unless other people have input I'll be ranking this one pretty low. The PD seemed very intent/proud on making the TYs work fairly hard through out the year based on his presentation.

Broadlawns-TY;
I thought this one would be easier but schedule sounded like one of the more difficult ones. Perks are housing that is literally 2 minute walk which is very appealing. Location is indifferent to me.

Summa Health Akron:
Oh how I wish this were the other now gone Akron TY... PD seemed like he took a lot of pride in his TY residents patient care (translate as working hard). Definitely thought this one would be easier but everything the PD said made me think otherwise so will be ranking this one low as well unless other people have comments. Didn't even get to talk to a current TY because they were busy working. Did get to speak with a few current 1st year IM or FP which from what I gathered have a very similar schedule to the TY's (not a good sign either in my opinion.)

*Special stipulations that probably make me different from most other applicants in order of how important they are to me;

I don't want to get blindsided by a program that makes me work like a dog
I HATE long commutes
I like smaller cities
I like low cost of living (ie hospital has free food, rent is on cheaper side)
I'm rather "outdoorsy"-I don't enjoy one particular outdoor activity more than another however
I don't care about the "social scene" in the slightest and is actually more of a negative than a positive to me
I possibly foresee myself getting a large breed dog in the near future if the conditions are adequate.

Based on gut feeling alone at this point my ranking would be something like;
1. South Dakota
2. North Dakota
3/4/ in no particular order; Oakwood, Riverside
5/6 no order; Christiana Care, Broadlawns
7/8 no order: Mcneal, Summa Akron

Ok, long post but with all that in mind, how would you guys rank these programs with the above taken into consideration. Since all the current rad applicants are going through the same process, I'd love any feedback/feelings you had on any of these programs if you interviewed there and then also feedback from anyone here who is currently at or was recently at (1-3 years prior) any of these programs.
 
Hey all, this might not necessarily be the correct forum to post this question in, but because I'm looking for input specifically in regards to a radiology residency future, I thought this place would get the most hits/replies.

Anyways, I'm trying to create my transitional list ranking but for the most part all of these programs seemed more of less the same to me on interview day... The places I'm considering with a brief description of what I thought are as follows;

*side-note* I would prefer a smaller town vs big city for intern year, don't mind living out in the middle of now where but at the same time wouldn't care one way or the other if there was a biggish city within a 1-2 hours driving distance. My goal for intern year is to just get through it and have as much free time to use as I see fit (whether it be learning medicine or something completely irrelevant to medicine). I would also highly like to be able to live within a few minutes drive or walking distance from the program as I hate long commutes...

University of South Dakota;
For whatever reason, this place seemed like it had the easiest schedule of anywhere I interviewed at. Free food all day long, lots of electives and I liked the town. Current TY's seemed to like it a lot.

University of North Dakota;
Schedule seemed on the easier side. Fargo does get pretty cold but that is better than it being super hot to me. Only was able to talk about the program with 1 current TY who went to med school there so felt like he might have been biased towards the town/not having to move. PD seemed nice and resident oriented/flexible.

Christiana Care TY;
Staff and PD seemed nice enough, current residents said they didn't work too hard. Almost too close to Philly for me (I don't like philly...) Not sure what else to say about the program itself. Sounded like residents worked a little more than the above two programs.

Oakwood TY (Dearborn);
I'm originally from North West Ohio so familiar with the area. I know in the past its been called jokewood but it didn't come off as especially easy to me. Not difficult by any means though. Cheapish place to live for a year.

Riverside TY, VA;
On an island with big military population if I recall correctly. Commute for 1 month during year to some other hospital was around 30-45 minutes, not terrible if the rest of the year was quick commute. Again, current TYs seemed happy, staff was nice, middle of the road for hours worked is what I gathered.

McNeal TY;
In Chicago, enough said for me (in a bad way, haha). It actually sounded like one of the harder TY's I interviewed at too so unless other people have input I'll be ranking this one pretty low. The PD seemed very intent/proud on making the TYs work fairly hard through out the year based on his presentation.

Broadlawns-TY;
I thought this one would be easier but schedule sounded like one of the more difficult ones. Perks are housing that is literally 2 minute walk which is very appealing. Location is indifferent to me.

Summa Health Akron:
Oh how I wish this were the other now gone Akron TY... PD seemed like he took a lot of pride in his TY residents patient care (translate as working hard). Definitely thought this one would be easier but everything the PD said made me think otherwise so will be ranking this one low as well unless other people have comments. Didn't even get to talk to a current TY because they were busy working. Did get to speak with a few current 1st year IM or FP which from what I gathered have a very similar schedule to the TY's (not a good sign either in my opinion.)

*Special stipulations that probably make me different from most other applicants in order of how important they are to me;

I don't want to get blindsided by a program that makes me work like a dog
I HATE long commutes
I like smaller cities
I like low cost of living (ie hospital has free food, rent is on cheaper side)
I'm rather "outdoorsy"-I don't enjoy one particular outdoor activity more than another however
I don't care about the "social scene" in the slightest and is actually more of a negative than a positive to me
I possibly foresee myself getting a large breed dog in the near future if the conditions are adequate.

Based on gut feeling alone at this point my ranking would be something like;
1. South Dakota
2. North Dakota
3/4/ in no particular order; Oakwood, Riverside
5/6 no order; Christiana Care, Broadlawns
7/8 no order: Mcneal, Summa Akron

Ok, long post but with all that in mind, how would you guys rank these programs with the above taken into consideration. Since all the current rad applicants are going through the same process, I'd love any feedback/feelings you had on any of these programs if you interviewed there and then also feedback from anyone here who is currently at or was recently at (1-3 years prior) any of these programs.
Man you are really putting some thought into a 1yr TY spot
 
Nobody cares about one year of internship. Choose an easy one and just do it.

If you can find a good one in your current location or your residency location (if you move for residency) that is perfect. On the other hand if you are single and want to experience living in a different location for a year, that is also great.

Don't put too much time and energy on it. It is just a year that you have to do to get a certificate of completion. You are not going to learn anything useful. People who say that their surgical internship was helpful for reading CT abdomen or MRI shoulder are rationalizing the torture that they have gone through.
 
Nobody cares about one year of internship. Choose an easy one and just do it.

If you can find a good one in your current location or your residency location (if you move for residency) that is perfect. On the other hand if you are single and want to experience living in a different location for a year, that is also great.

Don't put too much time and energy on it. It is just a year that you have to do to get a certificate of completion. You are not going to learn anything useful. People who say that their surgical internship was helpful for reading CT abdomen or MRI shoulder are rationalizing the torture that they have gone through.

I 100% agree. I guess I wasn't as blunt as I should have been. I am interested in finding the "easiest" program on my list which I have a general idea based on the actual interview but I don't want to end up getting my number 1 only to later find out it wasn't as easy as I originally thought. Thus, was just wondering what other people who interviewed at some of these sites had to say. As to the moving part, I based my TY program application list purely on ease of schedule via the respective TY programs websites. Of the TY's I listed, I don't currently live near any of them and none of my top 7ish radiology programs are anywhere near them either so I have come to terms I will have to move twice regardless.
 
This advice is meant for anyone and not the OP specifically:

If you're remotely thinking of going into a field like surgery or IM (or any of their subspecialties) and are not 100% fully into rads when you applied/ranked, do a prelim in surgery or IM depending what that competing field is. Residents sometimes change their minds in rads residency and switch back to IM (or less commonly surgery) and you'll save yourself the time from having to repeat an intern year in the field you want to go into. I say this because I've seen recent posts asking about rads vs. X, which is usually IR vs. surgery. I have a buddy that switched out of rads back into IM and is glad he did an IM prelim rather than TY.
 
I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts about Christiana as well... heard the prelim was actually kind of rough, but the TY wasn't too bad.
 
Make your list so that you have to do the paperwork for as few state licensing boards as possible.

Really, this decision doesn't matter at all.
 
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