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Don't know much about the U of Utah neuro program and there is little info on the web. I not sure if I should re-arrange my schedule to interview there. Any input would be appreciated? Are they particularly strong in any fields? Any big names? Fellowship spots? Thanks!
 
I don't have firsthand knowledge of the residency program, but I was able to speak with a fellow at my institution who went there for residency. I went there for undergrad, though, and have some insight.

First off, location. Salt Lake City is a beautiful place to live. I have also traveled to southern Utah and visited Bryce and Zion national parks. In terms of natural beauty, it is probably one of the most picturesque places in the US. And world class skiing and snowboarding is only 15-20min from the hospital. Remember, the 2002 Winter Olympics were there. People may be scared off by the whole LDS thing, but the city is actually less than 50% Mormon and the mayor is even a Democrat. Lots of people from California moving in too.

Second, facilities. The University Hospital is very nice, and I understand was undergoing a renovation that is probably done by now. It sits on the side of a mountain, close to the pediatric and VA hospitals.

Third, program. I hear the PD, Dr. Renner, is the most amazing guy ever. He is a fabulous teacher and is always energetic. I also understand that as a PGY4, there is the option of going to a couple different places in Africa for a few weeks to practice international neurology. Very cool. The chair is Stefan Pulst -- if any of you open the AAN booklets, he is usually on the first few pages, the guy with a beard and a bowtie. He has been Chair of the AAN Scientific Committee for a few years now, made his name in neurogenetics. Lots of other big names, lots of people trained at Mass General, Hopkins, etc. Have their own Neuroscience Institute, and apparently relationship between neurosurgery, neurology, and neuroradiology is better than at most places. Neurocritical care unit is brand new. Neuroradiology apparently has Anne Osborne, who has written several seminal texts in her field. The Childrens Hospital is highly regarded, as is the Moran Eye Center, which are both top 10 programs. They offer fellowships in Clinical Neurophysiology with either neuromuscular or epilepsy focus, stroke, neurocritical care, sleep, neurogenetics, neuro-ophthalmology, starting movement disorders soon.

Everyone I have talked to has referred to the program as a hidden gem, or a special place, or an overlooked place. The catchment area is huge there, draws referrals from 5 states or something crazy.

So in short, I would indeed rearrange your interviews to visit there. It will be worth it.
 
I don't have firsthand knowledge of the residency program, but I was able to speak with a fellow at my institution who went there for residency. I went there for undergrad, though, and have some insight.

First off, location. Salt Lake City is a beautiful place to live. I have also traveled to southern Utah and visited Bryce and Zion national parks. In terms of natural beauty, it is probably one of the most picturesque places in the US. And world class skiing and snowboarding is only 15-20min from the hospital. Remember, the 2002 Winter Olympics were there. People may be scared off by the whole LDS thing, but the city is actually less than 50% Mormon and the mayor is even a Democrat. Lots of people from California moving in too.

Second, facilities. The University Hospital is very nice, and I understand was undergoing a renovation that is probably done by now. It sits on the side of a mountain, close to the pediatric and VA hospitals.

Third, program. I hear the PD, Dr. Renner, is the most amazing guy ever. He is a fabulous teacher and is always energetic. I also understand that as a PGY4, there is the option of going to a couple different places in Africa for a few weeks to practice international neurology. Very cool. The chair is Stefan Pulst -- if any of you open the AAN booklets, he is usually on the first few pages, the guy with a beard and a bowtie. He has been Chair of the AAN Scientific Committee for a few years now, made his name in neurogenetics. Lots of other big names, lots of people trained at Mass General, Hopkins, etc. Have their own Neuroscience Institute, and apparently relationship between neurosurgery, neurology, and neuroradiology is better than at most places. Neurocritical care unit is brand new. Neuroradiology apparently has Anne Osborne, who has written several seminal texts in her field. The Childrens Hospital is highly regarded, as is the Moran Eye Center, which are both top 10 programs. They offer fellowships in Clinical Neurophysiology with either neuromuscular or epilepsy focus, stroke, neurocritical care, sleep, neurogenetics, neuro-ophthalmology, starting movement disorders soon.

Everyone I have talked to has referred to the program as a hidden gem, or a special place, or an overlooked place. The catchment area is huge there, draws referrals from 5 states or something crazy.

So in short, I would indeed rearrange your interviews to visit there. It will be worth it.

I don't have any personal experience AT U of Utah, but I can definitely say that my interactions in terms of interview invitations have been 100% first class. They called to tell me I got an interview, make arrangements to pay for their interviewees to stay there. And I've heard it's a great program. That being said....don't apply there if you're a strong candidate, because....I want a spot 😀
 
Thanks for the details. I heard that although they invite DOs/IMGs, they rarely (if ever) accepted one. Any truth to this?
 
Thanks for the details. I heard that although they invite DOs/IMGs, they rarely (if ever) accepted one. Any truth to this?

I heard the same thing last year. You can check their website or call the coordinator and find out for yourself.
 
Checking out the website, they seem to have a PGY2 who went to Midwestern University Arizona College of Osteopathic Medicine.
 
They take DO or FMG if good. They have one PGY2 DO, and my fellow said they took a DO and a FMG (from St. George) in the same class a few years ago, and the DO is now on staff as a Movement Disorders Attending.
 
Considering only 6-7% of all docs are DO's i'd say 1/12 is right online with the national percentages.

Recall, that the distribution of DOs throughout the specialities/fields of medicine are not equal....
 
Recall, that the distribution of DOs throughout the specialities/fields of medicine are not equal....
I would be shocked if the number of DO's in allopathic neurology residencies is greater than 6-7%.
 
Is that like an "oh" face? Indeed, I am shocked; I have been on a ton of interviews and have only met 2-3 DOs. Where did you find this data?
 
Is that like an "oh" face? Indeed, I am shocked; I have been on a ton of interviews and have only met 2-3 DOs. Where did you find this data?

Sorry - forgot to post the link:

http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddata2009.pdf

Page 5.

What I find interesting is that pages 20-21 shows the % DO seniors that matched into PGY1 neuro spots is 0.7%. MD seniors? 0.8%.

That changes with the PGY2 neuro match, which I'm assuming is after a prelim medicine year. DO goes to 9%, MD goes to over 50%. The rest? FMGs.
 
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