U.S. McGilll applicants?

[Acherona]

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Any other Americans apply to McGill? Any news? I'm really trying to fulfill my resolution of moving to Canada after the previous election.

 

[CanuckRazorback]

Any other Americans apply to McGill? Any news? I'm really trying to fulfill my resolution of moving to Canada after the previous election.

I am applying to McGill. I am a U.S. permanent resident with the advantage of being born in Quebec. My sister is also a second year med student there so if you need more info about anything, let me know.

 

[pushkin]

I applied. I also started a thread on this very topic about a month ago.

Good luck!

 

[Shaz]

I'm really trying to fulfill my resolution of moving to Canada after the previous election.

Come on, give it a break.

 

[IAMS]

I read last night that McGill plans to send out their interview invites by December 21st, and will start rejections in January. Guess we'll know who makes it by Chrstmas, or maybe before New Years.

"Please note that interview letters for U.S. and International applicants will be mailed by December 21, 2004. Applicants who are not invited for interviews will be informed accordingly by mid-January 2005."

 

[IAMS]

I want to ask has anyone else here applied?
I'm hoping not, because that's less competition for me and the what, 10 seats available for US/Foreign students?

 

[mdsadler]

You guys are so much luckier than other Canadian applicants. There are way more seats for international/american students than out of province students. I think there are about 20 International seats and 2-5 out of province seats. I would like to go to McGill but as Americans you guys have a better chance.

 

[IAMS]

You guys are so much luckier than other Canadian applicants. There are way more seats for international/american students than out of province students. I think there are about 20 International seats and 2-5 out of province seats. I would like to go to McGill but as Americans you guys have a better chance.

I've heard proportionally and statistically, Mcgill expects more volunteer/research from Canadians, is that right?

 

[mdsadler]

I've heard proportionally and statistically, Mcgill expects more volunteer/research from Canadians, is that right?

I am not sure. All I know is that applying in Canada is scary. WAY too competitive and way too dependent on #s. McGill's essay allowed for a greater explanation of activities than other schools so you're probably right. Other schools in Canada only want a list of your top 3 volunteer activities and they prefer point form without detailed descriptions.

 

[Blake]

You guys are so much luckier than other Canadian applicants. There are way more seats for international/american students than out of province students. I think there are about 20 International seats and 2-5 out of province seats. I would like to go to McGill but as Americans you guys have a better chance.

I've always thought that was ridiculous too, but Mcgill can't maintain a great reputation if they don't have enough foreign students.

 

[jefguth]

I've always thought that was ridiculous too, but Mcgill can't maintain a great reputation if they don't have enough foreign students.

Yeah Right! They just want your money. $3 500 for Quebec students versus $23 000 for foreign students...

There are more than enough very qualified students in Canada and the province for that matter.

 

[VPDcurt]

Any other Americans apply to McGill? Any news? I'm really trying to fulfill my resolution of moving to Canada after the previous election.

I can honestly say that I hope you get into McGill so you can get the hell out of our country. I am not applying to any Canadian schools because I refuse to spend 4 yrs in a place where the majority of the people have been misled to believe that America is evil. Best of luck to you.

 

[jefguth]

I can honestly say that I hope you get into McGill so you can get the hell out of our country. I am not applying to any Canadian schools because I refuse to spend 4 yrs in a place where the majority of the people have been misled to believe that America is evil. Best of luck to you.

Whoa, the hostility!

I am terribly sorry that you have been misled to believe this. Canadians certainly do not believe America is inherently evil. Quite the contrary, Canadians generally regard the United States as our closest friend and ally. Unfortunately, many Canadians believe the leadership of your country to be misguided in its approach to the world. This does not mean we think you are all evil, to do so would be a a gross error and simplification of the concerns that many Canadians hold.

While Canadians may strongly disagree with some of the most recent policies and actions of the United States - this is not to say that we hate the America, or Americans or even regard them as evil (whatever that means??). Think about it, there is a profound distinction! However much Canadians may disagree with these actions, we still must work with the United States and the United States with Canada. We are inextricably linked.

In the future I suggest that you refrain from forming forming opinions about other nations from what you hear on Fox News or Ann "Canada should be thankful we allow them to exist on the same continent as us" has to say.

Thank you

 

[VPDcurt]

A recent Gallup poll found that ~60% of Canadians feel that "America is evil."

 

[jefguth]

A recent Gallup poll found that ~60% of Canadians feel that "America is evil."

What's your source?

 

[VPDcurt]

What's your source?

Gallup is an independent polling organization. Hence Gallup is the source.

 

[VPDcurt]

we still must work with the United States and the United States with Canada.

this really couldn't be farther from the truth. canada relies heavily on the fact that they have the US as a neighbor. America would be fine (perhaps better off) if canada ceased to exist.

 

[flash]

I can honestly say that I hope you get into McGill so you can get the hell out of our country. I am not applying to any Canadian schools because I refuse to spend 4 yrs in a place where the majority of the people have been misled to believe that America is evil. Best of luck to you.

👍

Whoa, the hostility!

Quite the contrary, Canadians generally regard the United States as our closest friend and ally.

you should considering your army of less than 20,000. Our implicit military subsidies allow you to be socialists.

Unfortunately, many Canadians believe the leadership of your country to be misguided in its approach to the world.

the american people, the only group our leadership answers to, apparently disagree.

However much Canadians may disagree with these actions, we still must work with the United States and the United States with Canada.

Your survival in a worst-case scenario depends on it.

We are inextricably linked.

No, we are not.

In the future I suggest that you refrain from forming forming opinions about other nations from what you hear on Fox News or Ann "Canada should be thankful we allow them to exist on the same continent as us" has to say.

he/she only essentially said "I hope you get what you want" to the poster who wanted to move to Canada because of the elections.


J Bush in '08! Just to piss the left off.

 

[jefguth]

You really should not put so much faith in what a telephone poll has to say. I understand how they would get such a result: The pollster poses one question, "Is the United States evil?" Yes or No. Now the large majority of Canadians who really are fustrated with the actions of the USA both abroad and in the bilateral relationship are of course going to say yes. I probably would too, simply for the sake of getting off the phone with this annoying first class telemarketer, and making a quick statement on my feeling of American policies. I, nor many others would spend ten minutes explaining my position to this person, I don't really care to and I know that the poller doesn't want to hear it.

I think you would get a similar response from the american public if asked about anyother country in the world. Thats why I find these type of polls to be remarkably useless and unreflective of true opinions.

"Evil" anone is just too simple an opinion and lacks any considerable though or articulation.

 

[VPDcurt]

flash...where have you been all my life?

 

[jefguth]

you should considering your army of less than 20,000. Our implicit military subsidies allow you to be socialists.

Sorry, but our military is a little larger than 20 000. Remember, Canada assisted and continues to assist in the ocupation of Afghanistan. What impicit subsidies are you talking about? Canada funds its own military.

Canada is hardly socialist, in fact I would argue that our economy is more liberal (classical liberalism, if you know what that is?) and open than that of the USA.

the american people, the only group our leadership answers to, apparently disagree.

True, however, if the US government would like the assistance of the International community (hello Iraq!) then they will have to be more accomodating.

Your survival in a worst-case scenario depends on it.

Umm, who supplies the USA with some 30% of its energy? Of course... Canada.

No, we are not.

he/she only essentially said "I hope you get what you want" to the poster who wanted to move to Canada because of the elections.

I have no idea what you mean there. She explicitly said that Canada should be grateful that the United States allows it to exist!

 

[IAMS]

Call it weakness or inability to fight back, but holding an opposing opinion does not amount to hate. It's the self-righteous indignation that has turned most of the world against us. I'm not canadian, but I too dislike the arrogance of the americans in charge. John Edwards, 08!

 

[VPDcurt]

Call it weakness or inability to fight back, but holding an opposing opinion does not amount to hate. It's the self-righteous indignation that has turned most of the world against us. I'm not canadian, but I dislike the arrogance of the americans in charge. John Edwards, 08!

Edwards has no shot - he is totally out of the political spotlight now and will be for the next couple of years.

 

[IAMS]

Edwards has no shot - he is totally out of the political spotlight now and will be for the next couple of years.

You're right that he'll be out of the spotlight, but Bush barely squeeked by this time. People will be so sick of the right wingers, after 4 years, anyone else will be just fine.

 

[VPDcurt]

You're right that he'll be out of the spotlight, but Bush barely squeeked by this time. People will be so sick of the right wingers, after 4 years, anyone else will be just fine.

You think so? 7 of the last 10 presidents have been republicans. I think people are sick and tired of the liberals (and have been for the past 20 yrs) that we are now seeing a complete shift in all aspects of government and life. This is also why we have been hearing so much of organizations like fair and balanced fox news instead of the communist news network (CNN) and the ACLU (they have more conservative issues to fight against now).

 

[IAMS]

This is also why we have been hearing so much of organizations like fair and balanced fox news

Fox news, fair and balanced?????
Now I know you're full of ... 🙂

Maybe as impartial as RushLimbaugh.

 

[jefguth]

organizations like fair and balanced fox news instead of the communist news network (CNN) and the ACLU (they have more conservative issues to fight against now).

Wow! and i though CNN was conservative?
😱

Can't say I know much about Fox News, since they are not permitted to broadcast here, but even if they are fair and balanced, they certainly do not shy away from imflamatory editoral... Something that probably doesn't really belong in journalism.

 

[flash]

Sorry, but our military is a little larger than 20 000. Remember, Canada assisted and continues to assist in the ocupation of Afghanistan. What impicit subsidies are you talking about? Canada funds its own military.

The "occupation" of Afghanistan, I don't remember an occupation.

Canada is hardly socialist, in fact I would argue that our economy is more liberal (classical liberalism, if you know what that is?) and open than that of the USA.

No, i don't know what it is.
I do know that a 7.4% unemployment rate is considerably higher than 4.3% we enjoy.

Also know that per capita GDP of $30K is substantially lower than the $38K that the US enjoys.

True, however, if the US government would like the assistance of the International community (hello Iraq!) then they will have to be more accomodating.

The international community...love it. Hello Iraq.

Umm, who supplies the USA with some 30% of its energy? Of course... Canada.

of course not..closer to 17%, be thankful we pay for it 🙂

http://api-ec.api.org/filelibrary/ACF17F.pdf

I have no idea what you mean there. She explicitly said that Canada should be grateful that the United States allows it to exist!

[/QUOTE]

Ok, but she didn't post here, nor did the poster you responded to bring her up.

Be still.

 

[jefguth]

The "occupation" of Afghanistan, I don't remember an occupation.

Occupation may be a harsh description, but that's what it is. American, Canadian, and various European troops are stationed in Afghanistan under NATO command.

No, i don't know what it is.
I do know that a 7.4% unemployment rate is considerably higher than 4.3% we enjoy.

Also know that per capita GDP of $30K is substantially lower than the $38K that the US enjoys.

Higher unemployment does not mean Canada is organized under a socialist economy. Nor does a lower GDP, which BTW is reflecive of past currency exchange rates that favoured the US by about 30%. By this line of reasoning, Norway, a country that has a much more substantial social safety-net than either canada or the US would be the unlimate capitalist society. I'm sure that you will disagree.

The international community...love it. Hello Iraq.

Perhaps this is why Mr. Rumsfeld had some unwelcome questions when he held conference with US troops in Iraq... Stop-Loss... There is a reason why the US handled this invasion on their own, despite the small contributions of the UK.

of course not..closer to 17%, be thankful we pay for it 🙂

http://api-ec.api.org/filelibrary/ACF17F.pdf

Crude and crude derivaties are not the only sources of energy. Most exports to the US are Natural gas and a smaller amount of coal. You must also consider that Quebec supplies an enourmous amount of electricity to the Eastern states.

Be thankyou we don't charge you more (as we did in the 70's) 🙂

 

[flash]

I wish you well...you are going to practice optometry in Canada, right? Enjoy the taxes, bud.

 

[jefguth]

Thankyou flash,

Yes, that is my intention, however I have not yet ruled out the possiblity of attending optometry college in the United States. Admissions is easier, less competitive and the only alternate choice since we have only one OD program in English. I am not particularily worried about taxes, they can't be much more than in the United States can they (50% for over $70K vs. ?)? Although, this may seem excessive, I believe that it is worthwhile for the level of government services available in Canada and because of the greater general level of economic equality (who really wants to live next to a trailer park, or in one, anyways)?

I wish you and everyone else the best of luck in your applications. To those hoping to leave the USA and attend McGill, I think you will find Montreal to be a very interesting city.

 

[VPDcurt]

Thankyou flash,

Yes, that is my intention, however I have not yet ruled out the possiblity of attending optometry college in the United States. Admissions is easier, less competitive and the only alternate choice since we have only one OD program in English. I am not particularily worried about taxes, they can't be much more than in the United States can they (50% for over $70K vs. ?)? Although, this may seem excessive, I believe that it is worthwhile for the level of government services available in Canada and because of the greater general level of economic equality (who really wants to live next to a trailer park, or in one, anyways)?

I wish you and everyone else the best of luck in your applications. To those hoping to leave the USA and attend McGill, I think you will find Montreal to be a very interesting city.

the highest tax bracket in the US is 200K/year (43% taken in federal tax).

 

[Acherona]

I can honestly say that I hope you get into McGill so you can get the hell out of our country. I am not applying to any Canadian schools because I refuse to spend 4 yrs in a place where the majority of the people have been misled to believe that America is evil. Best of luck to you.

Dude, have you even been to Canada? When I studied in Montreal for a semester I was struck by the fact that the students seemed better informed about American politics than Americans. In fact, they have a FAR better idea of what America is all about compared to American perceptions of Canada. When you decide to educate yourself by learning about what goes on in the rest of the world instead of believing every piece of propaganda dubya and dick have crafted for you, you begin to think about things like, how could a statistic like that be true and, if it is, why is it that other countries might not be happy with US policies?

Thank you for the good luck wishes, I'm crossing my fingers that I'll be eating poutine and shopping on st laurent this time next year.

 

[jefguth]

Thank you for the good luck wishes, I'm crossing my fingers that I'll be eating poutine and shopping on st laurent this time next year.

I don't know about the poutine, but st laurent (et rue Ste-Catherine)sound like fun to me 🙂

Just out of curiousity, do you speak any French (Parlez-vous Francais)? I would imagine that would be of some benefit when dealing with patients when on some rotations, but would also help when dealing with everyday Quebecois encounters?

 

[DubZteR]

Thank you for the good luck wishes, I'm crossing my fingers that I'll be eating poutine and shopping on st laurent this time next year.

👍 Make sure you also check out any of the Mike's restaurant chains. They make an awesome hot sub .. way better than quizno's called the "SuperSteak".

 

[uclabruin2003]

i must have missed the memo that CNN was the communist news network...

Fox News is fair and balanced? Ha. I almost fell out of my chair.

Go liberals.

 

[DubZteR]

this really couldn't be farther from the truth. canada relies heavily on the fact that they have the US as a neighbor. America would be fine (perhaps better off) if canada ceased to exist.

I am curious to know how Canada relies heavily on the fact that we have the US as a neighbor.

Please elaborate and be very specific.

Thank you

 

[DubZteR]

I can honestly say that I hope you get into McGill so you can get the hell out of our country. I am not applying to any Canadian schools because I refuse to spend 4 yrs in a place where the majority of the people have been misled to believe that America is evil. Best of luck to you.

I would imagine that you don't travel much then.

 

[DubZteR]

Your survival in a worst-case scenario depends on it.

Please elaborate and be specific.

Thank you

 

[DubZteR]

This is also why we have been hearing so much of organizations like fair and balanced fox news instead of the communist news network (CNN) and the ACLU (they have more conservative issues to fight against now).

Perhaps you could enlighten me by providing examples on how Fox goes about being balanced and fair ... lol.

Otherwise, giving life to such a claim is much like a Harvard political science professor being interviewed about Canada and when asked ... so what do you think about our president,Mr. Jean Poutine... answers the question blindly and makes himself out to look like a fool. The correct answer for one thing is we don't have a president nor did we ever have a PM named Jean Poutine.... the above really did happen and was aired on national television.

Did you get a chance to see it? I doubt your fair and balanced Fox TV would have aired such footage.

 

[VPDcurt]

Go liberals.

you're alone on this one buddy. see the results of the last election. you guys are yesterday's news.

 

[VPDcurt]

I'm not gonna waste my time quoting all of your posts but I am going to say a few things that need no explanation in my opinion. First of all, I do travel quite often and have been to Canada numerous times. Second, Fox News is the most fair and balanced news right now. It is not totally fair and balanced, but it is the most fair and balanced.

 

[Acherona]

I don't know about the poutine, but st laurent (et rue Ste-Catherine)sound like fun to me 🙂

Just out of curiousity, do you speak any French (Parlez-vous Francais)? I would imagine that would be of some benefit when dealing with patients when on some rotations, but would also help when dealing with everyday Quebecois encounters?

I know some french but I never used it because almost everyone in Montreal speaks English. I don't know what the patient populations are like but if they are coming from more rural parts of Quebec then it might be really useful. I would definitely take some French classes if I were to move there.

 

[Acherona]

I'm not gonna waste my time quoting all of your posts but I am going to say a few things that need no explanation in my opinion. First of all, I do travel quite often and have been to Canada numerous times. Second, Fox News is the most fair and balanced news right now. It is not totally fair and balanced, but it is the most fair and balanced.

wow, if you really believe this I shudder for the future of medicine.

 

[VPDcurt]

wow, if you really believe this I shudder for the future of medicine.

if you don't believe it, you must be on some other planet (or Canada). that's why it is the most popular cable news network in the US right now (more popular than CNN and MSNBC combined).

 

[flash]

I know it can be hard to stop replying to libs, VPD. Not worth the energy.

We won, again. They continue to lose. Momentum is building, people are fed up. They brought out everything and everyone they had last election season, and lost (presidency, both houses and probably a supreme court seat or two-let not forget about Daschle - lol). Let them rant...helped us last election, continues to show people how ridiculous their logic and ideas are.

The future of medicine will be fine. 🙄

And yes, she does live on a diff planet, called Cambridge, MA, and was schooled at Wellesley.

 

[IAMS]

Fox News' use of 'Fair and Balanced' challenged legally

By JAKE COYLE
Associated Press Writer
Published on: 07/20/04


NEW YORK — Fox News' use of the slogan "Fair and Balanced" constitutes deceptive advertising, two political advocacy groups claimed Monday in a petition filed with the Federal Trade Commission.

Liberal MoveOn.org and historically nonpartisan Common Cause assert that Fox News' reports are "deliberately and consistently distorted and twisted to promote the Republican Party of the U.S. and an extreme right-wing viewpoint."

read on here:

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/cnn/0704/20slogan.html

 

[lavertus]

I know it can be hard to stop replying to libs, VPD. Not worth the energy.

We won, again. They continue to lose. Momentum is building, people are fed up. They brought out everything and everyone they had last election season, and lost (presidency, both houses and probably a supreme court seat or two-let not forget about Daschle - lol). Let them rant...helped us last election, continues to show people how ridiculous their logic and ideas are.

The future of medicine will be fine. 🙄

And yes, she does live on a diff planet, called Cambridge, MA, and was schooled at Wellesley.

Where would you Southerners and Midwesterners be without CA and New England? Worse off than Canada, I'll tell you that much. Don't get me started...

Besides, we of "ridiculous" logic outnumber you neo-conservative types quite handily here, so I wouldn't start a flame war if I were you.

 

[Acherona]

I know it can be hard to stop replying to libs, VPD. Not worth the energy.

We won, again. They continue to lose. Momentum is building, people are fed up. They brought out everything and everyone they had last election season, and lost (presidency, both houses and probably a supreme court seat or two-let not forget about Daschle - lol). Let them rant...helped us last election, continues to show people how ridiculous their logic and ideas are.

The future of medicine will be fine. 🙄

And yes, she does live on a diff planet, called Cambridge, MA, and was schooled at Wellesley.

Yea, and I bike to work and shop at Whole Foods, the horror! It's really too bad we won the civil war and didn't get rid of the red states when we had the chance. Now we are suffering by having uninformed religious zealouts who think Fox news is unbiased choosing our government and making decisions that affect all of us. I'm in full support of secession so you can blow up the middle east and drive your SUV's without it being on my conscience.

P.S. Cambridge, which has one of the highest concentration of wealth and brains in the nation, went 85% kerry, woohoo. Looks like the poor and uneducated, the very people being screwed by conservative policies, are the ones who support it. We liberals are trying to hoist you up, but you prefer to remain shackled to your backward worldviews. Go figure.

 

[uclabruin2003]

Yea, and I bike to work and shop at Whole Foods, the horror! It's really too bad we won the civil war and didn't get rid of the red states when we had the chance. Now we are suffering by having uninformed religious zealouts who think Fox news is unbiased choosing our government and making decisions that affect all of us. I'm in full support of secession so you can blow up the middle east and drive your SUV's without it being on my conscience.

P.S. Cambridge, which has one of the highest concentration of wealth and brains in the nation, went 85% kerry, woohoo. Looks like the poor and uneducated, the very people being screwed by conservative policies, are the ones who support it. We liberals are trying to hoist you up, but you prefer to remain shackled to your backward worldviews. Go figure.

Hmm I couldnt have said it better. Oh and I walk to work.