U.S. McGilll applicants?

[DubZteR]

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I'm not gonna waste my time quoting all of your posts but I am going to say a few things that need no explanation in my opinion. First of all, I do travel quite often and have been to Canada numerous times. Second, Fox News is the most fair and balanced news right now. It is not totally fair and balanced, but it is the most fair and balanced.

Why would you visit a country numerous times if the majority of the people there have been misled to believe that America is evil? Where's the sense in that? ....

Also, stop trying to twist your original comments around regarding the Fox is fair crap. Extremely cowardly to make claims like you did without justfication.

 

[jefguth]

I know it can be hard to stop replying to libs, VPD. Not worth the energy.

We won, again. They continue to lose. Momentum is building, people are fed up. They brought out everything and everyone they had last election season, and lost (presidency, both houses and probably a supreme court seat or two-let not forget about Daschle - lol). Let them rant...helped us last election, continues to show people how ridiculous their logic and ideas are.

The future of medicine will be fine. 🙄

And yes, she does live on a diff planet, called Cambridge, MA, and was schooled at Wellesley.

Unfortunately for American democracy, what so many of you fail to realize is that government is not about about conceding to the voices of the majority, but about implementing good public policy. This is what the body politic in your country seem to forget, or at least chooses to ignore in pursuit of polarized minds and their votes.

A visitor to your country once wrote that he knew of " no country where there is so little freedom of expression... the body is left free and the soul is imprissoned" (Alexis de Tocqueville). Instead of discussing issues in a thoughful manner, the likes of Bill O'Reilley <sic?> and his faithful viewers instead choose to ignore sincere investigation in favour of absurd accusation, and old, boring, conditioned rebuttals to any challenge.

This must have been why GWB declined an invitation to address parliament during his recent visit to Ottawa - could he have been afraid that an MP might actually challenge him on some policy - requiring an a relevant and unscripted response?

 

[CanuckRazorback]

Wow!

I am French Canadian and from Montreal. I can tell you that we have our own political issues to deal with, especially Quebec wanting to become independent from the rest of Canada, so don't worry about Canadians thinking Americans are evil. French Canadians think Enligh Canadians are evil and vice versa. I don't don't, but many do. Anyway, why don't we drop the politics? I thought this was about McGill.

My sister is a Med 2 at McGill and I visited the campus last summer. If you are American, you wil not be impressed especially if you have interviewed/visited at an American school. I just came back from Vanderbilt and it's like day and night. Facilities are old, but they are building a new clinical skills lab. I went to a histology class and 10 students were crammed around one computer. Also, keep in mind that about 80 students come from the Med-P program. These kids get into medical school 2 years after high school (after CEGEP) so the maturity level is somewhat lower.

However, there are some upsides to McGill. First, you are awarded the MD, CM degree (doctor of medicine, master of surgery) which is only awarded by a handful of universities in the world. Second, every single patient is a teaching case because of the social medicine program. Montreal is a great city, very cosmopolitan with a European flair. It is quite cold though. You can't beat the price for the reputation. I know it's 23K for foreign students, but that's less than 20K U.S. when you convert. 87% of their graduates match their top residency choice (many in the U.S.) I can't think of anything else right now, but feel free to email me with any questions.

The reason why McGill has more spots for American students than out-of-province students is become McGill receives money from the AAMC (that's what I was told). If you are an out-of-province applicant and willing to practice in an underserved region of Quebec, you should let the admissions office know because that will greatly enhance your chances of getting in (it's a binding agreement though so you can't change your mind).

They say that minimum MCAT is 30, but they did accept less than a 30 last year. Also, the Quebec government told McGill they could add more spots to last year's class so they are now up to close to 200 spots. They even extended admissions to people that had originally been rejected when they found out they were allowed more spots. They are supposed to get more spots this year again.

I hope this helps you guys with the McGill admissions process. I've read that the interview day can be disappointing, but they are working on that. If you are granted an interview at McGill, let me know and try to get my sister or one of her classmates to show you a good time in Montreal.

 

[VPDcurt]

Where would you Southerners and Midwesterners be without CA and New England? Worse off than Canada, I'll tell you that much. Don't get me started...

Besides, we of "ridiculous" logic outnumber you neo-conservative types quite handily here, so I wouldn't start a flame war if I were you.

That's Funny...I am from Connecticut - born and raised. I am just going to school here in VA. In other words, you have made a moot point.

 

[VPDcurt]

This must have been why GWB declined an invitation to address parliament during his recent visit to Ottawa - could he have been afraid that an MP might actually challenge him on some policy - requiring an a relevant and unscripted response?

Sorry but Dubbya has more important things to do - like the U.S. Economy, the War on Terror, Homeland Security - a meeting with a bunch of haters from Ottawa is definitely a waste of his time.

 

[Acherona]

Wow!
I hope this helps you guys with the McGill admissions process. I've read that the interview day can be disappointing, but they are working on that. If you are granted an interview at McGill, let me know and try to get my sister or one of her classmates to show you a good time in Montreal.

Thanks for the info! I know a doctor who went to McGill med who also told me that the facilities were not on a par with American schools.

 

[IAMS]

I hope this helps you guys with the McGill admissions process. I've read that the interview day can be disappointing, but they are working on that. If you are granted an interview at McGill, let me know and try to get my sister or one of her classmates to show you a good time in Montreal.

Ya, I've been to Montreal, it's nice, and the food, I've never had such good food anywhere, and I love food. If your offer is real, I'll for sure be in touch. I hope to find out next week that I get an interview.

It is lame that some folks have to turn every thread that mentions Canada to a US v. Canada thread. Get a life.

 

[VPDcurt]

It is lame that some folks have to turn every thread that mentions Canada to a US v. Canada thread. Get a life.

Haha are you blind? Look at the original message!!!

 

[IAMS]

Haha are you blind? Look at the original message!!!

Watch it, bub, I'm speaking generally, which applies to more than just this thread. Duh!

 

[liverotcod]

If I were moderating this forum, it would be a tough call as to whether to move this to Everyone or not. So far, about 4-5 posts on topic to the thread and to pre-allo, and the rest not.

VPDcurt - your opinion, please. Would you move this thread to Everyone?

 

[VPDcurt]

If I were moderating this forum, it would be a tough call as to whether to move this to Everyone or not. So far, about 4-5 posts on topic to the thread and to pre-allo, and the rest not.

VPDcurt - your opinion, please. Would you move this thread to Everyone?

Due to my lack of authority in this manner, I will what I can and make the recommendation to close this thread. I think the original questions have been answered and now it is just getting carried away (I point the finger at myself).

 

[liverotcod]

Due to my lack of authority in this manner, I will what I can and make the recommendation to close this thread. I think the original questions have been answered and now it is just getting carried away (I point the finger at myself).

It was just a rhetorical question... I asked you as an experienced SDNer. Did you read the moderator flame thread? Sacrament et al believe pre-allo is overmoderated. This thread is a typical example of a thread that gets moved. I'm not pointing fingers - I have also been a participant in extended off-topic discussions, which I guess I'm doing right now.

 

[IAMS]

Hey, it happens, and the side discussions can be really interesting. This is just one of a number of threads I've been reading which turned nasty on the border. I don't see any point in it, as it seems to cloud other discussions. Didn't want to single anyone out. I have a lot of respect for you fellow SDNers.. you too VPDcurt.

 

[VPDcurt]

Hey, it happens, and the side discussions can be really interesting. This is just one of a number of threads I've been reading which turned nasty on the border. I don't see any point in it, as it seems to cloud other discussions. Didn't want to single anyone out. I have a lot of respect for you fellow SDNers.. you too VPDcurt.

respek

 

[liverotcod]

respek

 

[IAMS]

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[liverotcod]

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Da Ali G Show.

 

[Shaz]

respek

Ali G in the House: "That ain't no prostitue, that's mi hoe."

 

[IAMS]

Da Ali G Show.

Oh... Gotcha . 🙂

 

[flash]

That's Funny...I am from Connecticut - born and raised. I am just going to school here in VA. In other words, you have made a moot point.

I'm born and raised NYC! (and aminority). Posters are talking about the civil war, Whole Foods Stores and MA, the center of brains and wealth!? LOL...keep talking, libs. Learn nothing from their mistakes, love it.

And to the comment about gov't not being about majority opinion but good public policy, rank of worst state budget deficits.

#1 - California
#2 - New York
#3 - New Jersey
#4 - Texas
#5 - Illinois
#6 - Mass
#7 - Florida
#8 - Penn
#9 - Minnesota
#10 - Maryland

All except for Texas are liberal states, even though some went for Bush. What's does that tell you about your policy decisions?

Check this out...UNBELIEVABLE.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2001/04/30/state1957EDT0238.DTL


Ischt don't think so.

 

[Avenue Q]

All except for Texas are liberal states, even though some went for Bush. What's does that tell you about your policy decisions?

I know I'm going to regret getting into this but...

Many of those states have republican governers. And New York (the only state I know extended information on) consistantly gets short changed by the federal government (look at september 11th disaster relief). In fact, NYC gets even farther short changed by the significantly Republican rest of the state - this is cited as one of the reasons there is frequent (alllbeit fanciful) talk of NYC seceding and becoming its own state, or even country. To lighten up the mood of this thread, here is a link to a great, and funny, article on the matter:

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/rnc/9573/

 

[jefguth]

I'm born and raised NYC! (and aminority). Posters are talking about the civil war, Whole Foods Stores and MA, the center of brains and wealth!? LOL...keep talking, libs. Learn nothing from their mistakes, love it.

And to the comment about gov't not being about majority opinion but good public policy, rank of worst state budget deficits.

#1 - California
#2 - New York
#3 - New Jersey
#4 - Texas
#5 - Illinois
#6 - Mass
#7 - Florida
#8 - Penn
#9 - Minnesota
#10 - Maryland

All except for Texas are liberal states, even though some went for Bush. What's does that tell you about your policy decisions?

Check this out...UNBELIEVABLE.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2001/04/30/state1957EDT0238.DTL

Ischt don't think so.

If budget deficit is your only measure of whether or not you have good policy in place, then I suppose that you are not very happy with the policies of the Federal Governmernt and the Bush Administration. However, it wasn't my intention to compare the policy of liberal and conservative governments, rather it was a jab at both! Personally, despite my distaste for the language and rhetoric used by the likes of Bush and other conservatives, I really don't think it matters much who has power in the USA, there is very little discernable domestic policy differences - as far as I have noticed, but perhaps that is because I am not subject to any of those decisions. It just seems that the rhetoric changes.

I will not try to argue with you about your stance on the matter of SF covering the expense of gential reconstruction surgeries - I know we will only disagree, and strongly at all. However, you might consider that there may be some instances in which they are not dealing with your standard sex change (if there is a standard). There certainly are a great deal of people who do have gender/genitalia anomolies due to genetic and/or enviromental conditions (ie. genital hypoplasia) who might just want to set everything *down there* according to what we think is normal.

 

[flash]

too funny. downright delusional.

 

[docbill]

respek

VPDcurt,

It is really too bad that you have such strong negative opinions about Canada and democtrats in the US. It always amazes me how some are brainwashed by the media or parents and refuse to believe anything else.

If you believe Canadian are that useless etc... Please do everyone a favor and don't come and visit anymore. I am Canadian and have no bad feelings towards Americans. I may not agree with the administration, but as someone pointed out.. 48% in the US don't either (85% in MA).

Let me guess you are not too fond of any other country either?

Back to the point. McGill has an excellent program with amazing reputation. Being a Quebec resident I would love to go to McGill, unfortunately I am realistic and can't be accepted there with my grades.

 

[shivalrous]

if you don't believe it, you must be on some other planet (or Canada). that's why it is the most popular cable news network in the US right now (more popular than CNN and MSNBC combined).

The American public...I'll be the first to admit...is one of the most ignorant and hypocritical populaces in the world....FOX News led by Bill O'Reilly....a Conservative, God fearing Christian man being sued for sexual harassment...and don't you dare tell me that's a cheap extortion gimmick.

It's sad when the heartland of America tunes into a network who's figurehead used to be on Inside Edition.

I'm expecting hate replies for this, so go for it....waste your time if you're disillusioned enough.

 

[shivalrous]

Also for the record, just because someone is from Texas DOES not make him/her a Bush supporter.....everyone who's a college student at a Texas public school is getting screwed over because our national government is running us into the ground with spending. Texas used to be one of the places where you could get a respected, cheap priced education. That'll soon be a thing of the past as the rich get richer, the poor get more handouts, and the middle class continually feels the squeeze.

 

[flash]

VPDcurt,

It is really too bad that you have such strong negative opinions about Canada and democtrats in the US. It always amazes me how some are brainwashed by the media or parents and refuse to believe anything else.

Why is it "too bad"? What does that even mean. It's "too bad" you and your socialist partners are losing the culture war in the US.

It amazes me how leftist nit-wits believe that one must be "brainwashed" by someone/something to be a conservative. Or that we "refuse to believe anything else" when we disagree with your no-sense logic and rhetoric (or in my case, laugh). I was once a lib when I was younger (28 now), but it is a POV driven by doing what "feels good", motivate people by appealing to their base emotions, never offending anyone, no personal responsibility. Listen to Rush Limbaugh and listen to Al Franken (sp?) and tell me who has reasoned and logical arguments (even if you disagree, listen to the argument). Libs yell racist, disenfranchised, big bad corporations, not fair, "cowboy", "arrogance", Texan and hope for a emotional response, but no logic. Also, play the race card in any situation, no matter how ridiculous.


7 out of 10 ex-felons are Democrats


😴

 

[flash]

The American public...I'll be the first to admit...is one of the most ignorant and hypocritical populaces in the world....FOX News led by Bill O'Reilly....a Conservative, God fearing Christian man being sued for sexual harassment...and don't you dare tell me that's a cheap extortion gimmick.

It's sad when the heartland of America tunes into a network who's figurehead used to be on Inside Edition.

I'm expecting hate replies for this, so go for it....waste your time if you're disillusioned enough.

It's not about him (I don't even like him) - have you even considered the idea that maybe it's the conservative ideas we agree with.

"Ignorant and hypocritical populace in the world" - leave.


Disillusioned? haha - I've been celebrating since election day. Thanks for the gift - presidency, widened congress majority and probably supreme court seats.

 

[flash]

Also for the record, just because someone is from Texas DOES not make him/her a Bush supporter.....everyone who's a college student at a Texas public school is getting screwed over because our national government is running us into the ground with spending. Texas used to be one of the places where you could get a respected, cheap priced education. That'll soon be a thing of the past as the rich get richer, the poor get more handouts, and the middle class continually feels the squeeze.

Gimme, gimme, gimme. they have money, make them give to me or you're screwing me over - waaa waa waa.

 

[shivalrous]

It's not about him (I don't even like him) - have you even considered the idea that maybe it's the conservative ideas we agree with.

"Ignorant and hypocritical populace in the world" - leave.

Leave? Me? Hah you must be kidding. The land of opportunity and OPEN MINDEDNESS is why my parents immigrated to this nation. Granted conservatives have some excellent opinions and I agree with quite a bit of their platform. But I believe the current administration is not even Conservative....I'm not condemning Conservative as a group. I am condemning those Conservatives who simply conemn others for opposing them. Just those Conservatives that view any advocate of change as a threat.

That's all, I fully respect your views and I hope the feeling is mutual. But I still agree as Americans we tend to not practice what we preach and we are ignorant about the rest of the world. We do a very good job of pressing our views on the international scene and not giving a damn about what anyone else thinks,

 

[flash]

That's all, I fully respect your views and I hope the feeling is mutual. But I still agree as Americans we tend to not practice what we preach and we are ignorant about the rest of the world. We do a very good job of pressing our views on the international scene and not giving a damn about what anyone else thinks,

Welcome to world of geo-politics. Every entity with an agenda/interests presses those interests and that agenda. In negotiation b/w nations, business, industries, unions. Every single one.

What if everyone else is stupid? (not saying they are but extreme example). What if we don't agree with their ideas? What if we have some people who agree with us, some that don't? What if a group of us unanimously agree on something, and then only a few actually follow through. There is nothing wrong with using American power (all forms) to further our interests. EVERYONE (countries, businesses, political groups, people, buyers, sellers) does it, and rightfully so.

Does anyone ever say China doesn't give a damn about what anyone else think vis-a-vis human rights? No, International Red Cross, with all these dictatorships in the world, is worried about Guantanamo Bay prisoners. America has been the single most positive force in the history of the world...period. Pressing our views has freed hundreds of millions of people.

Too much time this morning (finals done). I promise, no more posts for a few hours.

Agree with you btw, on the fact that this administration is not as conservative as I'd like. But that is politics on the national stage. Hopefully changes now that no re-election to worry about.

 

[jefguth]

Does anyone ever say China doesn't give a damn about what anyone else think vis-a-vis human rights? No, International Red Cross, with all these dictatorships in the world, is worried about Guantanamo Bay prisoners. America has been the single most positive force in the history of the world...period. Pressing our views has freed hundreds of millions of people.

The reason why you will never hear anything from the International Red Cross about human rights in China is because this is a not a problem that falls within the mandate of the IRC:

"Mission: The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) is an impartial, neutral and independent organization whose exclusively humanitarian mission is to protect the lives and dignity of victims of war and internal violence and to provide them with assistance."

There are other organizations around the world that deal with the problems that exist in repressive countries like China.

The IRC is focused on the rights of those involved in and affected by war - not those involved in political dissent. This includes Guantanamo Bay detainees, and the IRC is mandated to ensure that the United States respects their rights as provided for by the Geneva Conventions - a treaty signed and ratified by the USA.

I sincerly hope that it was your intention not to denigrate the human rights concerns for the Guantanamo Bay prisioners.

 

[flash]

hit the head on the nail...my intention exactly. Keep talking..