UCLA and UCSF

[swtlemon]

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hi
i am a NY resident and really want to try out those west coast schools
UCLA and UCSF
would it be just waste of money to apply to these schools since they are unfriendly to out-of-state ppl?

Are there anyone non-resident of cali and got into these schools??

 

[makers]

When I interviewed at UCSF, they specifically stated that they do not favor California residents. The only difference is that if you are OOS, there is a higher cutoff GPA, but once you get past that benchmark (which you should be if you're going to bother applying), everyone is on equal footing. The higher number of CA residents at the school, according to them, is due solely to the larger percentage of CA applicants. I'm a Washington resident and I got in. I don't know about UCLA. I didn't bother applying there because I think S. California sucks.

 

[jlee1986]

hi
i am a NY resident and really want to try out those west coast schools
UCLA and UCSF
would it be just waste of money to apply to these schools since they are unfriendly to out-of-state ppl?

Are there anyone non-resident of cali and got into these schools??

if you have the stats, i think you should definitely apply. i was rejected from ucsf but accepted to ucla and i'm a ny resident. i don't think of myself as an applicant with a unique quality or experience, so i'm not quite sure why ucla chose to interview/accept me (although, it was quite late in the application cycle) i know looking at the stats for uc schools, especially ucla, can be kind of daunting as an out-of-stater, but if you think you have the stats, you should definitely apply! never in a million years did i think i would get into ucla--you really never know what's going to happen.

 

[JTSLai]

hi
i am a NY resident and really want to try out those west coast schools
UCLA and UCSF
would it be just waste of money to apply to these schools since they are unfriendly to out-of-state ppl?

Are there anyone non-resident of cali and got into these schools??

"out of state unfriendly schools" is a bit of a misnomer. as long as you have the stats and you're out of state you'll get in. the only thing is that you must stand out even more. "resident preferential" is a better term. so if you think you have the stats to apply to competitive out of state schools by all means you should apply. unfortunately I didnt get into any of the cali schools i applied to, but it was really my own fault, for not submitting the UCLA secondary app, not constantly getting on my LOR's case to submit their letters and withdrawing from UCSF app, and just plain not wanting to go to USC.

 

[armorshell]

Might want to try Pacific as well, it's a private school so it doesn't discriminate between residency in any way, and it no longer costs significantly more than UCSF for an OOS student.

 

[dentstd]

"out of state unfriendly schools" is a bit of a misnomer. as long as you have the stats and you're out of state you'll get in. the only thing is that you must stand out even more. "resident preferential" is a better term. so if you think you have the stats to apply to competitive out of state schools by all means you should apply. unfortunately I didnt get into any of the cali schools i applied to, but it was really my own fault, for not submitting the UCLA secondary app, not constantly getting on my LOR's case to submit their letters and withdrawing from UCSF app, and just plain not wanting to go to USC.

Web of contradictory statements.

 

[dentstd]

Might want to try Pacific as well, it's a private school so it doesn't discriminate between residency in any way, and it no longer costs significantly more than UCSF for an OOS student.

No one at a UC is out-of-state for longer than one year, unless some third party's paying for their tuition.

 

[dentstd]

hi
i am a NY resident and really want to try out those west coast schools
UCLA and UCSF
would it be just waste of money to apply to these schools since they are unfriendly to out-of-state ppl?

Are there anyone non-resident of cali and got into these schools??

If you lose, you lose $75 per school or whatever they charge. If you win, you get to go to two of the most highly regarded schools in the country. Both with good location and a public school price.

LA mostly cares about how smart you are, while SF cares mostly about who you are.

 

[armorshell]

No one at a UC is out-of-state for longer than one year, unless some third party's paying for their tuition.

I know. Even with only 1 year of out of state, the difference between Pacific and UCSF is now less than $30,000.

 

[DrReo]

I know. Even with only 1 year of out of state, the difference between Pacific and UCSF is now less than $30,000.

And a year of your soul.

 

[MrEcon]

I know. Even with only 1 year of out of state, the difference between Pacific and UCSF is now less than $30,000.

not sure about that. I met with a financial aide advisor yesterday at ucsf and he said the average aide from the school covers about 30 to 35 percent of the cost. What is the average UOP student seeing in grants and aide from uop?

 

[velospresso]

I say apply if your stats are competitive, all we've been seeing in our school papers is the UC budget tanking so they are making up the deficit by increasing the number of out of state students for the extra tuition. Granted I believe this is for undergrads and may not transfer over to graduate/professional so anyone feel free to correct me if I'm off on this. Even still, whats the harm in applying you may risk losing a few hundred but you also might get the chance to attend a well respected dental school

 

[armorshell]

not sure about that. I met with a financial aide advisor yesterday at ucsf and he said the average aide from the school covers about 30 to 35 percent of the cost. What is the average UOP student seeing in grants and aide from uop?

All I'm going off of is what's published on the website, and I'd have to say, considering the "1 year out of state cost" UCSF published is over $300,000, I'd be very surprised is they could manage to scrounge up $100,000 every year for 100+ students.

A UCSF student can probably better address this question though, from the few people I know who go to UCSF they're all paying the whole hog.

University Grant
The Office of the U.C. President provides grant funds to each UC campus. In awarding grants, the Student Financial Services Office tries to ensure that all eligible students receive comparable amounts of need based "free-money" regardless of their curriculum. Apply for full funding via the UCSF Financial Aid Application.

UCSF Grant/Professional Fee Grant
Designed to help mitigate the impact of UC fee increases, these programs provide grant funding based on financial need. Students who receive significant departmental fellowship or stipend awards will not be awarded UCSF or Professional Fee Grant Funds.

Cal Grant A and B
These are undergraduate programs which pay student fees (Cal Grant A and B) and a stipend (Cal Grant B). They are administered by the California Student Aid Commission (CSAC).

The following UCSF students may be eligible and are required to apply:

Entering pharmacy students who have fewer than 135 quarter or 90 semester units and will not have a bachelor's degree by September of their first fall quarter.
To apply, file the FAFSA by the deadline and then complete the UCSF Financial Aid Application after you have received notice of admission to UCSF.
The Cal Grant application deadline is the beginning of March each year (generally March 1, 2 or 3).

New Cal Grant applicants must have their current school complete a GPA verification form and submit it to CSAC.

Recipients must be California residents.

Federal Pell Grant
This is an undergraduate program which provides grants to the neediest students.

The following UCSF students may be eligible and are required to apply:

Entering pharmacy students who have fewer than 135 quarter or 90 semester units and will not have a bachelor's degree by September of their first fall quarter.
To apply, complete and submit the UCSF Financial Aid Application and also file the FAFSA.

The only grants dental students are even eligible for are all need-based.

I don't know what the average student here gets in grants. I don't qualify for any of the need-based grants/loans/scholarships our school provides so I don't have any, all I have is a merit-based scholarship which covers 20% of tuition.