UCSF vs. UCLA vs. CHO

[pedsdoc123]

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Just wanted to get a sense of people's takes on these programs- im thinking subspecialty but open to primary care as well. - and ultimately, what order would you rank these three programs?

my gen thoughts on each:
UCSF: prob best rep academically of the 3, multi site (+diversity of training, - less resident cohesion/some isolation), diverse and talented residents, some flux with program leadership, great location, residents seemed to be a little exhausted and more on the independent do their own kinda thing types
CHO: has a rep of being more "community", good rep but prob weakest of 3 in terms of academic rep, residents seemed pretty happy, good location, underserved pop (seen at sfgh and olive view too but really focus on that here), stand alone childrens hospital
UCLA: tri campus with diverse pt pop, amazing new hospital, happy residents (maybe more protected/less exhuasted than those at sf), la traffic sucks- esp getting to olive view, good academic rep (prob <sf but >CHO), "nicer" area of LA

im having difficulty coming up with a good order for these and would love any thoughts. thanks!

 

[pedsdoc123]

no one has any thoughts on these at all?

 

[DingleBerry]

Just wanted to get a sense of people's takes on these programs- im thinking subspecialty but open to primary care as well. - and ultimately, what order would you rank these three programs?

my gen thoughts on each:
UCSF: prob best rep academically of the 3, multi site (+diversity of training, - less resident cohesion/some isolation), diverse and talented residents, some flux with program leadership, great location, residents seemed to be a little exhausted and more on the independent do their own kinda thing types
CHO: has a rep of being more "community", good rep but prob weakest of 3 in terms of academic rep, residents seemed pretty happy, good location, underserved pop (seen at sfgh and olive view too but really focus on that here), stand alone childrens hospital
UCLA: tri campus with diverse pt pop, amazing new hospital, happy residents (maybe more protected/less exhuasted than those at sf), la traffic sucks- esp getting to olive view, good academic rep (prob <sf but >CHO), "nicer" area of LA

im having difficulty coming up with a good order for these and would love any thoughts. thanks!

I interviewed at UCSF and UCLA and I agree with what you have said. I think UCSF is a very unique program, great for some people and not for others. Lots of responsibility, autonomy, scut, and 5 different clinical sites has the residents all over SF. Clearly a great reputation and in an awesome city.

UCLA I thought was an excellent program as well. A little more cohesive and far less intimidating than UCSF. I think the new hospital is a perk and like you said you'll see a more urban, diverse patient population. Both programs have superb research, community outreach and international opportunities.

I thought UCLA would be a better fit for me than UCSF so its higher on my rank list. But its a clearly a personal decision. UCSF seems like a very challenging program, you'd constantly be learning a new hospital system, meeting new staff etc... your intern year. If you're the kind of person that needs that change of pace than you'd probably jump on that opportunity.

 

[NYC-girl]

are you talking about CHOC?

 

[165808]

are you talking about CHOC?

I think Children's Oakland.

 

[MonkeyRalph]

I didn't apply to UCLA, so I can't comment on that.
I thought the residents all seemed happier at CHO and I got the sense that some of the UCSF residents didn't even remember each others' names after being at the separate sites. However, I loved the faculty that I interviewed with at UCSF and academically it has a better reputation (although CHO is still pretty highly regarded across the country among pediatricians from what I've heard). Overall, I felt I'd be happier at CHO.