UIC for an out of stater

[Leejwwc]

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone had thoughts about UIC for an out of stater. I was invited to interview there but the huge price tag (COA > $70000 per year) is making me think twice about the feasibility of attending. Switching residency doesn't seem to be too easy either. I'm interested in academic medicine so I was thinking about the Urbana as opposed to the Chicago campus. There doesn't seem to be much information online about clinical affiliates at Urbana.

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[OldBlue]

i thought illinois only has a 6 month requirement for residency? the OOS tuition is certainly ridiculous.

 

[Leejwwc]

the thing is that you have to live there for 6 months, or 1 year, (or whatever the time requirement is for that particular state), for purposes other than education. i don't know any med students that can take on a full-time job on the side lol.

 

[zetabruin]

i had an interview invitation to uic, but when i realized the residency requirement and oos tuition was ridiculous i decided to decline this interview. i'm also looking to go into primary care so this huge price tag was just definitely not worth it. gl to you, wutever you decide.

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone had thoughts about UIC for an out of stater. I was invited to interview there but the huge price tag (COA > $70000 per year) is making me think twice about the feasibility of attending. Switching residency doesn't seem to be too easy either. I'm interested in academic medicine so I was thinking about the Urbana as opposed to the Chicago campus. There doesn't seem to be much information online about clinical affiliates at Urbana.

 

[cheasus]

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone had thoughts about UIC for an out of stater. I was invited to interview there but the huge price tag (COA > $70000 per year) is making me think twice about the feasibility of attending. Switching residency doesn't seem to be too easy either. I'm interested in academic medicine so I was thinking about the Urbana as opposed to the Chicago campus. There doesn't seem to be much information online about clinical affiliates at Urbana.

I was looking at the school too but I didnt even consider applying after seeing the tuition costs for out of stat students. I would still go if you are willing to pay for it... you never know, they could give you a big scholarship.

 

[OldBlue]

the thing is that you have to live there for 6 months, or 1 year, (or whatever the time requirement is for that particular state), for purposes other than education. i don't know any med students that can take on a full-time job on the side lol.

what i'm getting at is if you get accepted early enough, and if you aren't in school, you could move out there 6 months early. paying rent/food/bills/etc for a few months would be a small price to pay if it saves you 100K over 4 years

 

[Mobius1985]

There doesn't seem to be much information online about clinical affiliates at Urbana.

There are two big hospital systems in Urbana: Carle Foundation Hospital http://www.carle.org/ and Provena Covenant Medical Center http://www.provena.org/covenant/ where med students may spend their clinical years. Of course, theoretically, during the fourth year, one could arrange electives easily at any UIC affiliate hospital, on any campus. Practically, though, spots fill up fast, and all elective requests cannot be granted.

The Urbana campus is where all medical students not in Chicago spend their first year (130 students). For years 2-4, 50 go to the Rockford campus, 50 go to Peoria, and 30 stay in Urbana all four years. Those that remain are virtually all MD/PhD students or have a spousal tie to the area. This year there is one student who does not fall into either category. MD/PhD students have the advantage of getting a free medical education.

I'm pretty sure it takes a year to establish Illinois residency, whether by employment, or spousal employment (and paying state taxes, and having a state drivers licence). A call to the admissions office could confirm that.

Yeah, OOS tuition is a bummer. I've heard that some URMs are treated as in-state for tuition purposes though.

 

[BeardedRunner]

what i'm getting at is if you get accepted early enough, and if you aren't in school, you could move out there 6 months early. paying rent/food/bills/etc for a few months would be a small price to pay if it saves you 100K over 4 years

That's a really good idea, friend.

 

[Kaya12]

That's a really good idea, friend.

Will this really lower the tuition? I grew up in IL but became a FL resident in college. My family still lives in IL, does anyone know if it is possible to get IS status even though I am currently "technically" a FL resident?? I am currently applying and have already filled out AMCAS as a FL resident....

 

[DrJD]

Will this really lower the tuition? I grew up in IL but became a FL resident in college. My family still lives in IL, does anyone know if it is possible to get IS status even though I am currently "technically" a FL resident?? I am currently applying and have already filled out AMCAS as a FL resident....

Absolutely... If your parents are still residents you are golden...

 

[Leejwwc]

Thanks for all the great advice. I won't be able to move to IL, or any state for that matter, before school starts. I'm still in school right now. If that's the case with Urbana, I'm not sure how much a traditional MD (not MD/PhD) would like it there. Anyways, I scheduled my interview at the Chicago campus for later next month. I will have some time to decide before then.

 

[toucan]

http://www.uic.edu/ucat/catalog/SC.shtml#b

Factors in Determining State Residency
Bona fide residency must be maintained in the state of Illinois for at least one calendar year immediately preceding the date of receipt of the application for admission; or for tuition purposes, one calendar year immediately preceding the first scheduled day of classes for the term for which resident classification is sought. The following circumstances, although not necessarily conclusive, have probative value in support of a claim for state resident classification.

1. Continuous physical presence—defined as no more than a three-week absence from the state of Illinois—for at least one calendar year as described above.
2. Domicile in Illinois of parent(s) or guardian legally responsible for the student. Domicile in Illinois of spouse.
3. Voting or registration for voting in Illinois.
4. Illinois driver’s license or identification card and automobile registration.
5. Financial independence and payment and filing of Illinois income/property taxes, and/or ownership of property in Illinois during the tax year or partial tax year immediately preceding the term for which the person is requesting resident classification. Just the filing of an Illinois state income tax form, or filing a form without substantial Illinois income earned, will not be judged as a significant criterion for reclassification.
6. One calendar year of gainful employment in Illinois or proven reliance upon resources in Illinois for more than fifty percent of the income sufficient to provide for tuition, fees, and normal living expenses, e.g., food, clothing, housing, and transportation. Reliance upon income earned from loans is not viewed as evidence of intent to establish residency. Employment in Illinois must be in other than graduate assistantships or student employment.
7. The lease of living quarters and payment of utility bills in Illinois.
8. Former domicile in the state and maintenance of significant connections therein while absent.
9. Admission to a licensed practicing profession in Illinois.
10. Long-term military commitments in Illinois and/or proof that Illinois is the home of record.
11. One calendar year period of presence in the state for other than educational purposes.
12. Establishment of financial accounts at Illinois institutions.
13. Public records, for example, birth and marriage records.
14. Other official documents verifying legal, official connection with Illinois or with organizations or institutions within the state of Illinois.
15. Exclusive use of the Illinois address when home or mailing address is requested.

 

[OldBlue]

I stand corrected! Thanks Toucan. It must have been some other state that had the 6 month rule cuz i know i saw it somewhere.