UMDNJ endovascular fellowship

[doctorlarry]

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Hello to all,
According to their website, UMDNJ offers an endovascular surgical neuroradiology fellowship, but it is not accredited by the ACGME.
Since this is a new subspecialty that is just now beginning to sprout, does it matter in the real world if you do this fellowship without an accreditation standard?
Also, why aren't more higher tier programs offering this option?
What other programs are offering such a fellowship?

Thanks to all.

 

[xanax]

If you want to do endovascular, this is the place to go. It has one of the premier endovascular attendings (Dr. Qureshi) who is on the cutting edge. Everyone in the field knows of him. You can't go wrong by going there because you will get a wealth of experience from what I hear.

 

[Molly Maquire]

ARe you sure this fellowship isn't intended for radiologists?

 

[neurosign]

Its intended for those who have training in neurology.

 

[doctorlarry]

Does UMDNJ have any intention of having this program accredited by ACGME in the upcoming years?

Thanks.

 

[f_w]

Only a minority of endovascular surgical neuroradiology (=interventional neuradiology=endovascular neurosurgery) fellowships are ACGME accredited at this time. But this is less important. Key for credentialing purposes is to become an active or senior member of ASITN at the end of your fellowship. The requirments for that are a set number of cases and training/sponsorship through a senior member of ASITN (which Dr Qureshi is).

 

[play274]

Hello to all,
According to their website, UMDNJ offers an endovascular surgical neuroradiology fellowship, but it is not accredited by the ACGME.
Since this is a new subspecialty that is just now beginning to sprout, does it matter in the real world if you do this fellowship without an accreditation standard?
Also, why aren't more higher tier programs offering this option?
What other programs are offering such a fellowship?

Thanks to all.

UMDNJ has an endovascular surgical/neuroradiology fellowship, but so do a number of other programs - ie. Michigan State.

FYI, this is not my subspecialty. Recently, a friend told me that programs such Columbia, Penn, and U Texas (Houston) would consider neurology applicants with at least one year of NICU/stroke fellowship training and a willingness to commit for another 2-3 years. Nonetheless, I do believe that neurosurgery and neuroradiology are the more mainstream tracks that can lead one into this interesting field.

 

[bustbones26]

Most of these fellowships are open to anybody from neurosurgery, rads, or neurology. Not limited to one specialty. However, be aware that if you enter this field from a neurology residency, it will be competitive and difficult, but not impossible.

There is no board because the field is young and growing, but don't let theat discourage you. There are a number of neurology specialties out there that don't have a board.

From neurology, you usually spend at least a year doing neurocritical care or stroke training after residency before you go doing intervential procedures. The extra year or two of training helps beef up your knowledge in surgical critical care and radiology. It is the extra year or two of training that makes it possible for a neurologist to get his/her hands onto interventional procedures along side neurosurgeons and radiologist.

The training for a program is extensive, it will be competitive. The only reason I point this out is because it would be very bad for people to start thinking that they can go out and match in neurology, still rather uncompetitive versus neurosurg and rads, and think they can pursue this field. You still have to prove yourself a worthy applicant.

 

[NRAI2001]

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[Plesso]

Previous discussion about who should be allowed in the carotids, etc.:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=185628

A quote from the discussion you'll find via the above link:
"As mentioned in other posts, well-prepared neurologists have a very good chance of getting trained in some outstanding INR programs - UCLA, NYU, MGH, St-Luke's Roosevelt (Dr Berenstein), Columbia, Cornell, Pittsburgh, Iowa, Duke, Cleveland Clinic have trained/are training neurologists"

I think the future holds more than enough room in neuro-endovascular fellowships for radiology, neurosurgery, and neurology residents...The more these endovascular procedures prove their effectiveness in improving patient outcomes, the greater demand there will be for trained neuro-endovascular interventionalists...

Besides, the 3 fields have realized that if they don't work together, cardiology may infiltrate the field. Of the 12,000 stents placed in the carotids last year, 25% of them were placed by cardiologists likely as "drive-bys" during cardiovascular stent procedures!