UMDNJ vs. Columbia

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Hey, ya'll!

I recently got accepted to both DPT programs at Columbia and UMDNJ. I am a NJ resident. Unfortunately, dorming/living off campus is not an option for me. The commute to Columbia is about an hour and a half. The commute to UMDNJ is about 20 minutes.

I don't know what to do!!!! Both programs are great, the cost obviously varies between the two schools...but the commute is a major factor for me.

Thoughts? Any feedback is much appreciated! :shrug:
 
Those are the two schools I have been accepted to so far also! If I do choose Columbia (however I am leaning towards attending UMDNJ), I would live there. You should definitely think about how much of a toll 3 hours of commuting each day is going to have on you. And when you do get home will you have enough energy to put into studying? Personally, it would be way too draining for me. And if you are commuting by car, you will have to refill on gas two or three times a week.
 
I keep flip-flopping between the two! And I need to make a decision soon because Columbia's deadline is this week...

You're right, though, commuting will definitely take a toll on my studying. I guess the idea of possibly graduating from Columbia caught me in a daze. Do you know where I can find the approximate tuition amount for UMD?
 
What did you decide to do? Anybody else reading this forum have an opinion? I would live at Columbia and Columbia gave me a small scholarship totaling about $17000. I hate how they give us such a short time to decide!
 
I'd make 2 columns, one for each school, and tally up the total costs of attending each. Remember to include gas money, train tickets, etc. Then, subtract from this total any scholarship money you are offered.
However there are some "intangibles": reputation of school (if that's important for you), commute time, safety around the campus, etc. Personally, I wouldn't go to a school that requires a 3-hr commute each day. I used to commute 1.5 hr/day for work, and I found out I was too tired in the evening to do anything, let alone study.
 
heyamanda, i know what you mean about the short amount of time to decide! my deadline for columbia is this friday, and i am so cautious with making my decision. I'm honestly leaning more towards umdnj (like 65% sure). i actually did make a pros and cons list for everything. umdnj is cheaper, a closer commute, you start clinical rotations sooner (columbia has you going on rotations towards the end of your second year), and i prefer having the gross anatomy lab alone...i don't think i'd be able to handle it with a bunch of other classes altogether.

I got the same scholarship amount for Columbia as well. It's enticing. My father is fine with whatever choice I make. My mother insists on me going to Columbia and was actually disappointed when I told her that I was leaning more towards umdnj.

I hate making decisions! I need more time!
 
When do you plan on making your decision? What are you leaning more towards?
 
Haha in my case it's my father who really wants me to go to Columbia and my mother who would be fine with either. I think I decided on UMDNJ, for the exact reasons that you stated. Maybe see you there!
 
I'm not sure if you said it already, but do you mean UMDNJ Newark? That's where I will be going.
 
Yes, UMDNJ newark! Is your deadline for Columbia this Friday as well?

Keep me posted on your decision, heyamanda!
 
yes it is! and I think the deposit is supposed to reach them by Friday..good luck with your decision!
 
No-brainer - UMDNJ will leave you with less debt, you will likely have more free time, you will likely do better in your classes because of how much time you'll save by the commute. I know Columbia has that reputation and I know any parent would be proud to say their child graduated from Columbia... But keep in mind that just about nobody cares where you graduated from in the real world and it is particularly true in a profession where your experience in the clinic matters more than your formal education or the "DPT" title.

I also think having that extra free time is far more valuable than any small thing that one program does that another doesn't, such as "well, at this school I would have to share a cadaver," "This school's clinicals begin spring of year 1 vs. fall of year 2," or "this school has 38 weeks of clinical education vs. only 32 weeks at this other school." I know that last example hasn't been mentioned in this thread, but I have seen it around and its pettiness drives me crazy. After a measly 2 years on the job (~100 weeks) - which still leaves you as the rookie in the clinic - those extra 6 weeks will mean next to nothing. Having to share a cadaver, when looking at the big picture, seems pretty small to me as well.

Are those commutes total for the day, or each way? If it is total, you are sacrificing 9% (vs. 2% for UMDNJ) on commuting to go to Columbia. If those commutes were each way, you'd be sacrificing 18% of your life on the commute for Columbia vs. 4% for UMDNJ (this is all assuming you get 7 hours/sleep per night - adjust higher if you get more sleep/night and adjust lower if you get less sleep per night). Are you willing to give up 7% or 14% of your time being alive on this planet for the next 3 years to go to Columbia instead of UMDNJ? Now factor in the extra time it will take to pay off the extra tuition to attend Columbia, and factor in traffic/train cancellations that are more likely to affect you on a longer commute causing you to miss time in class and then have to study harder on your own time.

I really don't mean to on a rant - it's just that so many of these "should I go to school A or school B" threads don't have the most mature perspectives on what should matter and what ultimately does not. Although I think the decision is only difficult for you because it's your future and it's obviously tougher to make a decision from the inside looking out than it is for anybody to give you advice - I get the feeling you've already made it and are just looking for some reinforcement - this thread isn't one of the bad ones in terms of maturity.

EDIT: How does tuition for each compare? If the scholarship makes them comparable tuition-wise, the decision isn't as easy, though I think the extra time will be invaluable.
 
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I see what you're saying, but some of the reasons I am choosing UMDNJ that you see as being immature I see as personal preference. I like that UMDNJ has us take Human Anatomy alone in the summer as our first course just so that it will make life easier by having time to completely devote to human anatomy, and not have to worry about other classes. I also like that the last year's fall and spring are solely clinical affiliations. Not because it will help me once I graduate, but because it will be nice having only two years of classes instead of three. These are not the major reasons I chose UMDNJ, but I saw them as attractive parts of the program. I don't believe this is immature reasoning.
 
I know this post is from a few years ago but I am going through the exact same decision right now!! Any feedback regarding the programs you guys chose to attend? I'm very torn
 
I know this post is from a few years ago but I am going through the exact same decision right now!! Any feedback regarding the programs you guys chose to attend? I'm very torn

I don't have an answer for you, but how long is Columbia giving people to decide once you've been accepted? I have an interview next week...
 
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