Underrated Psych Residency Programs?

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What are some Psychiatry residency programs that people have been sleeping on, but are actually quality and worth checking out?
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MacDonaldTriad said:
There are so many. Lets just say most university based well funded places with bad weather (hot or cold, with hurricanes or tornados to boot).
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Ha. I was going to say all the places with good weather. Because good weather über alles. I learn better with sunshine.
 
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-exposure to lots of therapy modalities (DBT, CPT, CBT, psychodynamic, IPS, MI, family, prolonged exposure)
 
U of Cincinnati and U of Pittsburgh are psych departments of top caliber but not getting the name recognition they deserve due to their parent university not having the name-brand.
 
whopper said:
U of Cincinnati and U of Pittsburgh are psych departments of top caliber but not getting the name recognition they deserve due to their parent university not having the name-brand.
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Uhh. I liked Cincinnati fine when I interviewed there but Pitt traded placed with Yale as the institution with the most annual NIMH dollars. If you have any interest in research they are not even close. Our applicant pool suggests it gets plenty of recognition (whether people are prepared to pull the trigger on living in the 'Burgh is a different question but does have the effect of screening out many narcissists).
 
clausewitz2 said:
Uhh. I liked Cincinnati fine when I interviewed there but Pitt traded placed with Yale as the institution with the most annual NIMH dollars. If you have any interest in research they are not even close. Our applicant pool suggests it gets plenty of recognition (whether people are prepared to pull the trigger on living in the 'Burgh is a different question but does have the effect of screening out many narcissists).
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Pitt's strength is not just NIMH dollars and research but the sheer scope of psychiatrists working for it and the magnitude of it's clinical reach. Having to pass on an interview to work there due to family reasons has been the saddest day of my career to date.
 
Merovinge said:
Pitt's strength is not just NIMH dollars and research but the sheer scope of psychiatrists working for it and the magnitude of it's clinical reach. Having to pass on an interview to work there due to family reasons has been the saddest day of my career to date.
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I was going to like this comment but it seemed rude to approve of your disappointment.
 
Nothing against MGH, but IMHO one of the self-replicating positive feedback loops of it's ability to get top people is simply the name. Elitists want to be able to brag they went to a name-brand school so it makes it easier for those name-brand schools to remain afloat at the top cause they get a recurring and ample supply of applicants.

All the while a school like U of Pittsburgh, their psych department is clearly deserving of top merits but hardly anyone knows it even the people living in the city, or in the next psych program over.
 
Some of the most coveted academic types that bring in the most grant dollars can be some of the worst teachers. Some aren't even very good clinicians. Mind you I can think of lots of triple threat professors, but a lot only master one or two of these.
 
Paul Keck, Henry Nasrallah, Doug Mossman (who passed away over a year ago), Phil Resnick all are/great teachers and personable.

One of the top forensic psychiatrists I've seen is very condescending, not personable, doesn't like people outside of his faith...I will not name him.

Adding to what McDonald Triad mentioned, some places could be powerhouse research institutions but aren't so great with other things, but if possible you might be able to get a program where they don't have too many weaknesses. Of course being in a program with great research could benefit you, but doesn't mean it will. Depends on how much teaching those researchers do, and how open they are with students.
 
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Central Michigan University is fairly new, but it is growing quickly and has a lot of young faculty fresh out of residency / fellowships from big name institutions (Columbia, UCLA, Cleveland Clinic, University of Michigan). The residents get a lot of autonomy. There is also a new child psych fellowship program.
 
What would be a good residency if one is interested in forensic psych and child psych? I'm interested in working with adult prisoners/teens in juvenille detention centers that have antisocial personality disorder. Long term goal is private practice employing a group of psychiatrists. If that doesn't work out for me, I'll probably end up in administrative medicine in some capacity. Not too interested in academics.
 
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ArdorAyurveda said:
What would be a good residency if one is interested in forensic psych and child psych? I'm interested in working with adult prisoners/teens in juvenille detention centers that have antisocial personality disorder If private practice doesn't work out for me, I'll probably end up in administrative medicine in some capacity. Not too interested in academics.
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UTH (Houston) has several child units and has a decent forensics set up. They used to have a JDC unit but not for a few years. Not sure if that is going to come back.
TIGMER (San Antonio)'s PD does a ton of forensics work and is going to have a lot of different forensics electives. There is currently limited child psych exposure but there is a plan to change that since 1/2 of the interns want to do child psych fellowships
 
ArdorAyurveda said:
What would be a good residency if one is interested in forensic psych and child psych? I'm interested in working with adult prisoners/teens in juvenille detention centers that have antisocial personality disorder. Long term goal is private practice employing a group of psychiatrists. If that doesn't work out for me, I'll probably end up in administrative medicine in some capacity. Not too interested in academics.
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I would look for the best forensic fellowships and aim there. You will want to fast track into child first and forensics second to keep it to 6 years instead of 7. I can't name any program with a forensic fellowship that doesn't have a child fellowship.
 
Some places have a "triple-board" where you can get board-certified in pediatrics, psychiatry and child psychiatry. If that same place has a forensic fellowship you're more likely going to get exposed to better people in all of the above fields.
 
whopper said:
Some places have a "triple-board" where you can get board-certified in pediatrics, psychiatry and child psychiatry. If that same place has a forensic fellowship you're more likely going to get exposed to better people in all of the above fields.
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Is your program the only one that has Triple board + forensics? 😉
 
clausewitz2 said:
Uhh. I liked Cincinnati fine when I interviewed there but Pitt traded placed with Yale as the institution with the most annual NIMH dollars. If you have any interest in research they are not even close. Our applicant pool suggests it gets plenty of recognition (whether people are prepared to pull the trigger on living in the 'Burgh is a different question but does have the effect of screening out many narcissists).
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Agreed, Cincy was fine.

Would have loved to be at Pitt, more because I miss Pittsburgh (and my family there) than anything else, but if research is your thing it definitely makes sense. I didn't quite mesh well with the residents I met at the interview years ago, I felt too old there honestly. Dr. Travis was nice though. And come on, living in the Burgh isn't that bad.

whopper said:
All the while a school like U of Pittsburgh, their psych department is clearly deserving of top merits but hardly anyone knows it even the people living in the city, or in the next psych program over.
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People in the city know about it, there's just a lot of baggage that comes with Western Psych. A handful of the residents that I knew at the psych program next door felt that way, but many recognized the training power of that much pathology and experts in the field in one place.

TexasPhysician said:
Is your program the only one that has Triple board + forensics? 😉
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Aren't there like 2 or 3? Pretty sure Brown and Tulane have both.
 
OldPsychDoc said:
Yes, sorry.
New program, but good leadership, really enthusiastic about bringing this online.
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Is this the one that’s joint between UNMC and Creighton? Got really bad vibes when I interviewed there a few years ago....
 
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