Unethical nurse

[nafcillin]

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I am beyond shocked!! I was working on pediatrics and a nurse came up to me and asked if we could talk. I would consider her to be a friend and went out to dinner with her one time, although I don't see her that often. She is around 35ish and has been a nurse for around 2-3 years.

Anyway, she goes into this elaborate scheme which involves the theft and selling of narcotics. I have no interest in either taking narcotics or selling them and I was floored that she would suggest it. Details of how to do this are unimportant but the scheme was well thought out and disturbed me that she would think I would want to be involved.

I told her no way and left her awkwardly sitting in the break room where we were talking. I don't see her that often so I'm not worried about the social aspect of this but I am concerned that she will find another partner in crime. In her plan we would be depriving patietns of meds and that's just ****ing wrong.

so what do I do at this point? i can't just sit around and pretend she never propositioned me. and I am offended to think that she would even think for a second that I would be ok with this!!! 😡

 

[pharaday]

What do you do now? Report her!

 

[rxlea]

Yeah man... you need to report her. If you don't and she does get caught they will do a thorough investigation and there is the chance they will find out that you were aware of the scheme. You can get in trouble for not bringing it forward even if you didn't participate...

 

[Chris co2012]

It's hard to just report somebody, but you got to do whatever it takes to cover yourself.

 

[nafcillin]

I forgot to ask the question I meant to ask! Should I report her NOW when there is probably no evidence against her (I asked if she had done this before and she said she hadn't that her boyfriend had thought it up a few days ago)? Or should I wait until she has actually gone through with it and deprived a person of pain meds?

I am struggling when I should report her because right now it's just my word against hers. When she actually does the deed it will be a lot more damning. She could do this alone if she really wanted but it would be easier with another shady person.

 

[npage148]

did she actually steal anything or just tell you about some plan? Because i've heard lots of silly off the cuff plans to swipe lortabs and retire to the Caribbean from a variety of people. If you report her and there is no evidence that she's stolen stuff or even making a real plan to you could make it difficult for her and you look like a snitch

 

[nafcillin]

yeah that's the problem. It was a very serious and elaborate plan and she told me in the "utmost confidence" she's a sick sick lady.

 

[WhiteSnows]

I agree with everyone that you need to report to save your butts later. And you don't need to prove anything else besides reporting the incidence. You can try to explain that you are not the one who involve in this and you too would like to figure out the matter.

 

[Quiksilver]

reporting her will only let people of authority know to keep a closer eye on her. They won't bust her until she did something wrong

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Tell your boss. It's that simple. I'm not down with snitching, usually...but if patient care might be affected, sorry, but you just have to.

 

[pharaday]

Tell your boss. It's that simple. I'm not down with snitching, usually...but if patient care might be affected, sorry, but you just have to.

Absolutely. It isn't your job to prove a case against her, but you do have to report it now. There isn't any other choice. People think you are a snitch? So be it. This is too serious to wait on.

 

[RedPharmer]

Report it. Its still a crime of CONSPIRACY.

If you plot to kill someone, but you didnt do it. You can still be prosecuted and guilty.

This applies same to your situation.

 

[patmcd]

Report it!

 

[zenman]

I've been in pretty high up management positions. Report it to your immediate boss asap.

 

[p-rog]

why would you even post something like this online?

 

[Ackj]

why would you even post something like this online?

So the nurse can see it and be shocked, obviously. Or wanted to ask several peers who may have been in similar experiences, and get advice about what seems to be a tough decision.



What if she's actually a mole trying to see who the honest pharmacists are, and you've passed the test? She's doing some undercover assignment from HR to weed out the shady employees. Keep an eye on your coworkers too. I overheard one of them talking about communism. Trust no one.

 

[owlegrad]

Report it. I bet your company has an anonymous hotline for exactly this type of thing, so you don't even need to have an awkward conversation with anyone in your place of employment. If no hotline, go to someone in the hierarchy that you are comfortable with and report. After that, let it be. Once you have reported it to some appropriate person, your responsibility has been met.

 

[nafcillin]

why would you even post something like this online?

to annoy you

 

[meister]

don't report it...take her up on her offer and triple your income.








oh, you're a pharmacist??? well she should have asked a tech. what an idiot.

 

[p-rog]

to annoy you

Seriously you don't have any real friends you can ask for advice? All you've done now is put evidence online that you were aware of her plan and didn't report it immediately. Not exactly the smartest thing to do IMO.

 

[PumpkinSmasher]

Seriously you don't have any real friends you can ask for advice? All you've done now is put evidence online that you were aware of her plan and didn't report it immediately. Not exactly the smartest thing to do IMO.

I was thinking the same thing. I do not see the dilemma, right after that conversation, you should have been heading up to speak with your DOP. It is not too late to do the right thing!

 

[UMterps]

if your hospital has a means of anonymous reporting you could always go that route. that way you report her, they keep a closer eye on her, in no way do people know you personally ratted someone out, and if something does come of it, you can indicate you did report the incident, albiet anonymously. this of course if a big IF, dependent on the availability of anonymous reporting (like even for sexual harassment or other behavior/workplace issues).

 

[Samoa]

Yeah, this is not a dilemma. A dilemma implies that there's a reasonable option other than reporting her. If you don't, you are aiding and abetting a felony, should she ever go forward with her plan.