Unpleasant experience at Nova

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I just wanted to share my Interview experience at Nova southeastern. Not to just prospective students but for Nova as well. I never thought an interview could end up so unpleasant. Before I could partake in the interview process, I was made to sign a waiver, which basically stated I would not disclose any information about the interview and dress appropriately. I have been on several interviews for optometry and have never been asked to waive my rights; what are they hiding?
The group of interviewees, including me, was separated from family and friends to speak with the dean. He asked us interview like questions and went over the curriculum. During this time frame, he asked all of us the same questions, “why optometry”? For a dean to ask me this question and then state afterwards that it has nothing to do with my social and natural science degree, then you are quite mistaken. Science is Science, and I hate to break it to you, but Optometry is a science.
Anyway, I was shocked that he singled two of us out of the group, due to the fact that we were married, to ask if we were going to have children. To me and hopefully everyone else, this is an inappropriate question to ask at an interview. What are looking for in your applicants Nova? Will we be able to handle such a hard course load with a baby attached to our hip? Shortly after that wonderful question, the dean went over the curriculum and warned us several times that it is an extremely hard curriculum and that you will have no life. All you do is study day in and day out. Great, I would expect that for a doctorate program, wouldn’t you?
I asked the dean what the pass rates were for the national board. Instead of answering the question, he went on a tangent about the student doctor network; he asked us if we read the sdn and then not to believe anything you read on there. And he was genuinely upset. I felt that he was personally accusing me of reading the forum on their bad reputation of pass rates. Why didn’t you just answer the question, dean? That was another red flag for the day. So, dean, Is this forum also a lie? Do I have any reason to make this up?
When we went on the tour of the school with the students, I was informed that the students has plenty of time to party on the weekends and were not in class all day like the dean told us. Interesting. I noticed when we first arrived at the Terry building (optometry building), it was absolutely gorgeous. Huge marble façade and beautiful landscaping. Inside the building, a totally different story. On our tour, I couldn’t believe how dirty the inside of the building was; coffee spilt down the wall, finger prints or dirt smudges on the wall, dirty floors and even trash on the floor. The building looked as though it was inundated with students. Keep in mind, you take all your beginning classes with all the other professional schools (dental, pharmacy…ect).
The class room halls, cafeteria, and classrooms were filthy. I don’t think I saw one janitor all day. Not to mention, the bathrooms were disgusting. A rest station off the highway was cleaner than these bathrooms. I won’t share the details of the toilet rooms, but I am sure you could imagine the possibilities.
My favorite part of the tour was when the student told us about the color coded tiled floor. Apparently the color of your scrubs matches the color of the tiles on the floor that direct you to your classroom if you get lost. Ok, if you can’t manage to get to your class successfully without following the colored floor then you need to go back to kindergarten. Seriously, how old are we?
Anyway, I wish I could say it ended here, but it didn’t. My interview that was scheduled earlier in the evening got pushed back to almost 8 at night. I was so tired, hungry and disappointed at this point, but still decided to stick through it until the end. I had already made up my mind that this school was not the best choice for me.
I was greeted by a young female professor at Nova for my interview; I could tell she had it in for me the way she looked at me and introduced herself compared to the other applicants. Anyway, we get to the room for the interview, and I am to be interviewed by two female professors. I don’t think I could put this any other way….I felt like I was getting gang banged by good cop-bad cop. I wish I would have stood up for myself in the interview but I was so scared, tired, and hungry (keep in mind that it is 8 at night and been there for almost 7 hours). I was shocked that the bad cop asked why I didn’t want to be a physician like my father. And then she proceeded to say that I probably am applying for optometry because I couldn’t pass my MCAT. Funny, if you knew a thing about me, I never took the MCAT. I hate the bad reputation that goes with being a child of a physician.
On my last question, the good cop asked me a scenario type question about what do you tell a patient when they can no longer drive due to their vision loss. I gave her an example of what happened when my grandmother could no longer drive. The good cop had the nerve to ask me if she was still alive. I was so angry at that point that my eyes started to tear up and I told her no. Why do you need to know this information? She passed last year from stomach cancer…are you happy now? Nova….Clean up your act please! I saw nothing but red flags that day. I hope you can take some criticism and fix your school. I am sure other people may have had a pleasant experience in the interview process but on my behalf, it was terrible. At least be consistent. I just wanted people to know what happened to me. Enough said.
 
I asked the dean what the pass rates were for the national board. Instead of answering the question, he went on a tangent about the student doctor network; he asked us if we read the sdn and then not to believe anything you read on there. And he was genuinely upset. I felt that he was personally accusing me of reading the forum on their bad reputation of pass rates.

:scared: Maybe that's why they implemented the waiver?
Sorry about that experience. Those were some terribly inappropriate questions!
 
1) Almost postive that asking the mariage question violates some discrimination law.

2) I've never really laughed out loud before but when you said he changed the subject when asked about the pass rates I threw my head back and laughed. No wonder he said don't believe anything on SDN. :laugh:

3) Sorry about that experience, see your status says your a student, hope you got in somewhere you like!
 
Im really sorry your experience at nova turned out this way. But, Im really surprised to hear all this because my experience was the COMPLETE opposite. The dean and faculty were the friendliest out of the interviews I've been to..and the school was so up to date, new, and clean when I was there. Also my interview was a walk in the park..they were so friendly and they just basically had a conversation with me for 20 minutes. Also, when I asked the board pass rates, I got a straight answer and in the last few years it's been very good.

Sometimes things just dont go right for a reason, nova is probably just not the school for you.
 
Also, when I asked the board pass rates, I got a straight answer and in the last few years it's been very good.

What were the board I pass rates? I've been trying to figure out that one for awhile.

To the OP:
I didn't have that bad of an experience interviewing at Nova either. I thought the campus was nice and clean. The Dean was nice and he had an impressive background.

The only thing that was off-putting was that, when I was there, Fran was dealing with people who failed some courses and had to either repeat the year or become expelled and she explained that it happens sometimes. I just don't know how common it is in other schools to have a few people in that situation.
 
I just wanted to share my Interview experience at Nova southeastern. Not to just prospective students but for Nova as well. I never thought an interview could end up so unpleasant. Before I could partake in the interview process, I was made to sign a waiver, which basically stated I would not disclose any information about the interview and dress appropriately.

I would be very careful. For them it will be very easy to figure out who you are from this post. Also, the dean made it obvious that he reads these forums.
 
Sorry to hear about your experience. My personal experience at NOVA was quite good. Everyone was super polite and professional. I had a night interview also, but they gave us cookies and punch lol 😀

But everyone is different.

Good luck tho! 👍
 
I'm so sorry about your experience at NOVA. It sounds nerve wrecking! My trip to NOVA was great. I loved the weather, the campus, and the staff. Fran was so welcoming and she went out of her way for me. Other students who were interviewing walked out of their interview looking very pale. But....I thought my interview was great. Yeah, bad cop was a bit intimidating but I think she stood down a little after she realized that she wasn't phasing me. I had a great experience at NOVA. Truthfully, the only reason I declined their acceptance was because I don't like the heat. Oh, and reading testimonials from their students was painful. They all seem very worried about the drop out rate and board passing rates. Good luck! :luck:
 
I feel like I've heard of bad experiences like this from every school on here. But I'll just throw it out there that I had a great time at Nova (and am now going there). I thought the interview was a little nerve wracking but manageable - not the easiest or the hardest I went through. I also thought the lunch with the dean was fun, he seems like a really nice guy. There was a pregnant lady there interviewing and we heard a few child-related questions throughout the day. Additionally, Nova has an extended program, which is geared toward situations for people with kids, so maybe he was planning a pitch about that tidbit when he asked about kids. Sorry that you had a bad experience there, I'm sure you will be very happy wherever you end up!
 
It sounds like everyone but the original poster had an at-least–decent experience with Nova.
 
Yeah: listing the floor pattern with the other complaints was ludicrous -- lol.
 
Well coming from another student at another school, I think that scrubs and floor patterns is hilarious myself 🙂. I can understand the reason behind it though, well, minus the scrubs. Sorry the interview was bad though, I'm sure it happens in every school. And extended program or not, it is inappropriate to ask somebody in that kind of situation if they are going to have children or not. Distasteful. But, I'm sure it isn't like that all the time for sure. Hopefully you found a place that works for you.
 
I don't think asking someone if kids are in their immediate future, with the intention of following up with potentially interesting information - this case an extended five-year program - is distasteful. If anything, I think he was trying to point out something beneficial for those people, but maybe it came off wrong.
 
I just wanted to share my Interview experience at Nova southeastern. Not to just prospective students but for Nova as well. I never thought an interview could end up so unpleasant. Before I could partake in the interview process, I was made to sign a waiver, which basically stated I would not disclose any information about the interview and dress appropriately. I have been on several interviews for optometry and have never been asked to waive my rights; what are they hiding?
The group of interviewees, including me, was separated from family and friends to speak with the dean. He asked us interview like questions and went over the curriculum. During this time frame, he asked all of us the same questions, “why optometry”? For a dean to ask me this question and then state afterwards that it has nothing to do with my social and natural science degree, then you are quite mistaken. Science is Science, and I hate to break it to you, but Optometry is a science.
Anyway, I was shocked that he singled two of us out of the group, due to the fact that we were married, to ask if we were going to have children. To me and hopefully everyone else, this is an inappropriate question to ask at an interview. What are looking for in your applicants Nova? Will we be able to handle such a hard course load with a baby attached to our hip? Shortly after that wonderful question, the dean went over the curriculum and warned us several times that it is an extremely hard curriculum and that you will have no life. All you do is study day in and day out. Great, I would expect that for a doctorate program, wouldn’t you?
I asked the dean what the pass rates were for the national board. Instead of answering the question, he went on a tangent about the student doctor network; he asked us if we read the sdn and then not to believe anything you read on there. And he was genuinely upset. I felt that he was personally accusing me of reading the forum on their bad reputation of pass rates. Why didn’t you just answer the question, dean? That was another red flag for the day. So, dean, Is this forum also a lie? Do I have any reason to make this up?
When we went on the tour of the school with the students, I was informed that the students has plenty of time to party on the weekends and were not in class all day like the dean told us. Interesting. I noticed when we first arrived at the Terry building (optometry building), it was absolutely gorgeous. Huge marble façade and beautiful landscaping. Inside the building, a totally different story. On our tour, I couldn’t believe how dirty the inside of the building was; coffee spilt down the wall, finger prints or dirt smudges on the wall, dirty floors and even trash on the floor. The building looked as though it was inundated with students. Keep in mind, you take all your beginning classes with all the other professional schools (dental, pharmacy…ect).
The class room halls, cafeteria, and classrooms were filthy. I don’t think I saw one janitor all day. Not to mention, the bathrooms were disgusting. A rest station off the highway was cleaner than these bathrooms. I won’t share the details of the toilet rooms, but I am sure you could imagine the possibilities.
My favorite part of the tour was when the student told us about the color coded tiled floor. Apparently the color of your scrubs matches the color of the tiles on the floor that direct you to your classroom if you get lost. Ok, if you can’t manage to get to your class successfully without following the colored floor then you need to go back to kindergarten. Seriously, how old are we?
Anyway, I wish I could say it ended here, but it didn’t. My interview that was scheduled earlier in the evening got pushed back to almost 8 at night. I was so tired, hungry and disappointed at this point, but still decided to stick through it until the end. I had already made up my mind that this school was not the best choice for me.
I was greeted by a young female professor at Nova for my interview; I could tell she had it in for me the way she looked at me and introduced herself compared to the other applicants. Anyway, we get to the room for the interview, and I am to be interviewed by two female professors. I don’t think I could put this any other way….I felt like I was getting gang banged by good cop-bad cop. I wish I would have stood up for myself in the interview but I was so scared, tired, and hungry (keep in mind that it is 8 at night and been there for almost 7 hours). I was shocked that the bad cop asked why I didn’t want to be a physician like my father. And then she proceeded to say that I probably am applying for optometry because I couldn’t pass my MCAT. Funny, if you knew a thing about me, I never took the MCAT. I hate the bad reputation that goes with being a child of a physician.
On my last question, the good cop asked me a scenario type question about what do you tell a patient when they can no longer drive due to their vision loss. I gave her an example of what happened when my grandmother could no longer drive. The good cop had the nerve to ask me if she was still alive. I was so angry at that point that my eyes started to tear up and I told her no. Why do you need to know this information? She passed last year from stomach cancer…are you happy now? Nova….Clean up your act please! I saw nothing but red flags that day. I hope you can take some criticism and fix your school. I am sure other people may have had a pleasant experience in the interview process but on my behalf, it was terrible. At least be consistent. I just wanted people to know what happened to me. Enough said.

If you thought that was bad, wait till you hear that NOVA kicks out people if they fail a single course.
 
You get kicked out if you fail one course? Better give me back my money for all the other courses...
 
I just wanted to share my Interview experience at Nova southeastern. Not to just prospective students but for Nova as well. I never thought an interview could end up so unpleasant. Before I could partake in the interview process, I was made to sign a waiver, which basically stated I would not disclose any information about the interview and dress appropriately. I have been on several interviews for optometry and have never been asked to waive my rights; what are they hiding?
The group of interviewees, including me, was separated from family and friends to speak with the dean. He asked us interview like questions and went over the curriculum. During this time frame, he asked all of us the same questions, “why optometry”? For a dean to ask me this question and then state afterwards that it has nothing to do with my social and natural science degree, then you are quite mistaken. Science is Science, and I hate to break it to you, but Optometry is a science.
Anyway, I was shocked that he singled two of us out of the group, due to the fact that we were married, to ask if we were going to have children. To me and hopefully everyone else, this is an inappropriate question to ask at an interview. What are looking for in your applicants Nova? Will we be able to handle such a hard course load with a baby attached to our hip? Shortly after that wonderful question, the dean went over the curriculum and warned us several times that it is an extremely hard curriculum and that you will have no life. All you do is study day in and day out. Great, I would expect that for a doctorate program, wouldn’t you?
I asked the dean what the pass rates were for the national board. Instead of answering the question, he went on a tangent about the student doctor network; he asked us if we read the sdn and then not to believe anything you read on there. And he was genuinely upset. I felt that he was personally accusing me of reading the forum on their bad reputation of pass rates. Why didn’t you just answer the question, dean? That was another red flag for the day. So, dean, Is this forum also a lie? Do I have any reason to make this up?

I don't read as much into this as you have. To me, asking someone if they plan to have children is probably inappropriate for an interview, but it's highly likely that they were just making conversation. Did you get the impression that your admission hinged on the answer to that question?

Also, I don't get why someone is upset about being asked "why optometry?" To me, that's the first question that EVERY adcomm should be asking. That's no different than going on a job interview and being asked "why do you want to work here?" I ask that to any doctor or staff that I hire.
 
You get kicked out if you fail one course? Better give me back my money for all the other courses...

I asked Nova about this when I interviewed. The tour guide (a 1st yr optometry student, just about to finish her finals) said that only 2 ppl out of the entire class failed out.

They give you the opportunity to retake the final before you are failed for that course. Since the curriculum is taken in succession, you will need to repeat the entire year if you didn't do really well in your other courses.

With consideration that you will be a doctor, it's probably important for you to know all info and pass 😕
 
When i went to my interview in Jan, I had some similar impressions of the school as you had. It seemed like a bit of a party school to me: 1) the students giving the tour shared with us how many of them skip or sleep through lectures and 2) although UF had just won the BCS nat championship football game the night before, half the students it seemed were UF graduates and walking throuhg the school had that party/celebration vibe all around - it reminded me of undergrad, not a professional school. In fact, the girls giving the tour wasted so much time during the tour and talking to fellow students and being disorganized, they ran out of time to show us the clinic! seriously, one of the most important aspects choosing an opt school, and you dont even get to see the clinic?!? Luckily I had the last interview, and Fran was nice enough to show me and another girl the clinic at the end of the day, but that was after the other 8 candidates left and didnt get to see it.

Also, I got a bit of that bad cop good cop from the 2 ladies interviewing me, although my interview wasnt as harsh as you made yours out to be. Still, it wasnt a very comfortable interview (this was already my 4th interview at the time, so I was quite comfortable interviewing already)

I also felt that the facilities were dirty and had a run-down feeling to them, perhaps because ALL the professional health sciences students use the same lecture halls and rooms.

Overall, I didnt have a great impression of the school. It wasnt nearly as bad as you had it, but add me to the list that didnt have a great time at NOVA.
 
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