UOP Acceptance

[cooldentist]

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got acceptance from UOP. Its time to Banana Dance. Very Happy..🙂

 

[anmolwrites]

Congrats .. your hard work paid off..

 

[dentistkrishna]

Im on alternate list

 

[cooldentist]

Congrats .. your hard work paid off..

Thanks anmolwrites....it is time to relax🙂

 

[Smile 10]

Thank God !
You are Great !
Got Acceptance.
Wish a good luck to everyone who are in the process.

 

[dentistkrishna]

CONGRATULATIONS COOLDENTIST....
does anyone knew how many will be on alternate list and how far does it moves???

 

[cooldentist]

CONGRATULATIONS COOLDENTIST....
does anyone knew how many will be on alternate list and how far does it moves???

thanks dentistkrishna
i am sorry i do not have any idea how the alternate list moves but i know it does move..check with warren chang. he will tell u the exact details.

 

[toothfairy482]

I got an acceptance!!!!!!! Good luck to everyone who is waiting!

 

[dentist34]

Hi toothfairy482,
congratulations on ur acceptance.....

 

[toothfairy482]

Thankd dentist34!!! Good luck on Texas!!!!

 

[ONS]

Thank god...🙂
I got acceptance...😍
I want to thanks all my SDN friends and especially uabsfm and ilovegoldens.....

how do i do banana dance.......😕

 

[anmolwrites]

Congrats to the ones who got accepted and good luck to those awaiting..

 

[sucy]

congrats...this banana dance is for u ONS...

 

[ONS]

thanks a lot sucy.....

 

[moderndentist]

I too got acceted.

 

[ilovegoldens]

I got accepted but already sent my withdrawal. Good luck to those on alternate list!
And ONS, I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU
congratulations! You deserve it and you will love San Fran 😉

 

[uabsfm]

congratulations to those who got accepted in UOP

thanx ONS you deserve it , celebrate yr success

 

[cwlz]

Got acceptance too. Hard to choose between UOP and UCSF

 

[dentistcool]

i would say if u have option choose the one which gives u less loan as both schools are very good in overall experience,but ucsf has high rate of graduates entering into mastrers.also uop gives u general dentistry experience which is equally availaible in ucsf,but uop is very expensive,and thats the drawback.ucsf have their shuttles which pick u up from anywhere in sf area but no such system availaible in uop.ucsf lodging is very cheap compared to uop as they just dont have seperate lodging arrangements for their students and students have to spend out of their pocket and make personal arrangements,mostly its expensive than ucsf.ucsf is in a peacefully area but uop,very crowded and busy place.so choice is yours.i just tried to write some good points of both the schools as i am waitlisted in both,so it doesnt make me any personal difference.may be whichever decission u take,might help me or some one like me who is waiting.gall the best and congrats once again.

Got acceptance too. Hard to choose between UOP and UCSF

 

[the2thdoctor]

got acceptance from UOP. Its time to Banana Dance. Very Happy..🙂

Congratulations cooldentist and all others who have been accepted at UOP.

Could you guys who were accepted to UOP post your stats here ?

Thanks.

 

[cwlz]

Thank you so much dentistcool, you are very nice to give me a lot of suggestions. I need some time to collect more information and make a decision. Thank you again!

 

[ONS]

@ cooldentist, toothfairy, smile 10 and those who got acceptance in UOP IDS 2012 are invited to join a group on facebook.....pm me your email id so that i can add you all....i think now we can discuss our next step too....😀😀😀

 

[cooldentist]

Congratulations cooldentist and all others who have been accepted at UOP.

Could you guys who were accepted to UOP post your stats here ?

Thanks.

Thanks the2thdoctor🙂
my stats are NBDE1-93, gpa-3.84, toefl-101

 

[IMPACT]

Thanks the2thdoctor🙂
my stats are NBDE1-93, gpa-3.84, toefl-101

Congrats to everyone...I got my acceptance email today.

 

[dentally yours]

Thank you so much dentistcool, you are very nice to give me a lot of suggestions. I need some time to collect more information and make a decision. Thank you again!

HI there and congrats
I think UOP has the better international program than ucsf because there is almost no P.G. program in UOP and u get all the patients ,like exposure is more in uop and they make u do all the complex cases also.Most importantly the faculty is available and really involved with u all the time.
It is my personal opinion .

 

[coolcat]

Congratulations to all those who have got acceptance and all the best to those on the alternate list. I got accepted from Uop too and cant wait to start school

 

[dentally yours]

HI there and congrats
I think UOP has the better international program than ucsf because there is almost no P.G. program in UOP and u get all the patients ,like exposure is more in uop and they make u do all the complex cases also.Most importantly the faculty is available and really involved with u all the time.
It is my personal opinion .

I am on alternate list in UOP and accepted in UCSF.

 

[MissionISP]

Hi, just joined SDN today ...

One of the most exciting moment of my life,
Got accepted into UoP,



Sorry as joined the party very late but gotta be in touch with you guys now, see you soon.

My stats are:
95/81/3.2/117

Congrats everybody and good luck to everyone waiting to hear from the dream school! 🙂

 

[MissionISP]

HI there and congrats
I think UOP has the better international program than ucsf because there is almost no P.G. program in UOP and u get all the patients ,like exposure is more in uop and they make u do all the complex cases also.Most importantly the faculty is available and really involved with u all the time.
It is my personal opinion .

I agree with your opinion,
All the best to you too 🙂
No offence but you want to be a perfectionist as a general dentist, simply go for it. UOP has produced best clinicians, no doubt about that and history proves it. Cost all together is going to be nearly the same for both UOP and UCSF schools. I am going ahead with UOP because I know current students there and I got impressed massively with the facility and currculum at UOP that UCSF lacks to the certain extent. Sorry, cannot write more than this.
I got acceptance into both schools, most likely I'm going ahead with UOP. Good luck,
Congrats everyone who got acceptance,

See you soon! 🙂

 

[rohitsehgal]

i am accepted to uop,time for banana dance for me.good luck to all those who are waiting.but i dont know how to do banana dance.

 

[drdds9]

Hi,

Are there anyone who got rejection from UOP or everyone other than 22 (who got accepted) are wait listed? Please shed some light on this...

I agree with your opinion,
All the best to you too 🙂
No offence but as long as DDS is one's mission, UOP remains the best of all schools. You want to be a perfectionist as a general dentist, simply go for it. UOP has produced best clinicians, no doubt about that and history proves it. Cost all together is going to be nearly the same for both UOP and UCSF schools. I am going ahead with UOP because I know current students there and I got impressed massively with the facility and currculum at UOP that UCSF lacks to the certain extent. Sorry, cannot write more than this.

Your suggestions still are welcome as I got acceptance into both schools, most likely I'm going ahead with UOP.

Good luck everyone waiting,
Congrats everyone who got acceptance,

See you soon! 🙂

 

[dentistry]

i am accepted to uop,time for banana dance for me.good luck to all those who are waiting.but i dont know how to do banana dance.

Congrats everybody and good luck to everyone waiting to hear from the dream school! 🙂

 

[MissionISP]

I know my two friends who did not receive anything in hand, so I don't know what it means. One thing's for sure that not everyone other than 22 are in the alternate list. your chances depends on your ranking in the alternate listing. UOP alternate list always is the mystery, I was in the alternate list last year and couldn't make it to acceptance. So, applied this year again as always wanted to be part of this dream school.

Hi,

Are there anyone who got rejection from UOP or everyone other than 22 (who got accepted) are wait listed? Please shed some light on this...

 

[MissionISP]

Congrats Rohit,

I have sent you reply through PM,
See you soon at UOP.
We may plan other things on PM.

Congrats once again buddy! 🙂

i am accepted to uop,time for banana dance for me.good luck to all those who are waiting.but i dont know how to do banana dance.

 

[MissionISP]

UOP – 😍 😍 Very very friendly, Very stress free, they made every effort to make it a pleasing experience for me.
Pros about the school:
1) Friendly school
2) Every current students seemed to be satisfied with the program
3) Great alumni networking is available

4) UOP's mission is to make you the best general practioner you can
be and they work on it really hard.
5) One of very rare schools providing you opportunity to learn 'INVISALIGNERS' - isn't that great and simply awesome?
6) DUAL degree programs available and actively offered (State of the art technology!)

7) They mentor you towards the Regional licensing exam you want to
take .. both WREB and NREB!
8) They don't promise what they cannot do - so, no fake promises!
9) The clinical experience at Pacific truly is overwhelming and mindblowing. My senior friends in the first year (not even completed their first years) have been given 45-55 patients each within a short spam and their second year is yet to begin. So, just imagine yourself.

10) Maximum Faculty number among schools I visited so far - it really makes lots of difference,
11) competency based learning: not limited to pre-clinicals but also extends into the clinic. Clinical requirements are very demanding. If you are not in lectures, you will be in the clinic. If you are not in the clinic, you will be in the lab. So, no free time and maximum use of two year program. (Paisa vasool! - that's what my senior friends said me)

12) All students get to do specialty work - this is unique part about UOP. Even If you want to do impacted molar extractions, they will guide you; you want to RCT molar, they will guide you and let you do it; implants - they will guide you; If you want to do perio surgery, they will guide you..... SO, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR POTENTIAL till what extent you wnat to learn from them.

13) UOP's state-of-the-art facilities and simulation lab with high class standard is amazing and the best ever among all schools I visited. Actually, I am from San Francisco and I have friends in both schools, so I have visited UOP & UCSF three-four times before I was interviewed. I know these schools from inside-out. Did you visit all dental departments at UOP and UCSF from inside? If you had then probably you might have made decision by now. UOP has all recent equipments available and it keeps all departments updated with recent advancements and technologies. Well, I found that UCSF recently has made observable changes and improved standard as compared to two years back but certainly it is nothing as compare to that of UOP.

14) Current students I personally met, convincingly opined me that 'STRONG clinical orientation' of UOP is a major factor in their decision making. UOP has few current students like us who had acceptances in both UOP and UCSF last year and they preferred UOP just because they wanted perfection as a DDS and had no plans going for PG. According to them, the present era is all about dental revolution; UOP curriculum is entirely based on ‘comprehensive patient care', I guess USC is the other school with same kind of standard but has few drawbacks, so UOP aces over USC. I don't have no plan for PG like my senior friends at UOP, so my goal is that I must know comprehensive patient management and I should be self-confident to treat my patients convincingly after completing DDS. UCSF on the other hand, has tried to simulate (copy) it from UOP but still is under experiment. Didn't you see notice-boards all over the walls of UCSF? UCSF authority keeps asking current students how students are feeling with comprehensive care/ 'human resources' experiments in the current curriculum?

15) Helpful and supportive environment with higher interaction with dental faculty members and quality of teaching is simply awesome and impressive. Didn't you have an opportunity to interact with current students? If you did then probably you would not have asked me the same question, UOP believes in a team work. Believe me, this strategy works for development both as a person and as a professional. I didn't find the same level of intimacy among the present IDP students/faculty members of UCSF. UOP already has gifted highest profile dentists to State of California in the dental profession. I'm from California and would love to be headed in a righteous direction. I just want to master my skills as a general dentist. UOP certainly makes its students a perfectionist. Quality of teaching is what might be compromised at UCSF as it's a government school.

16) Research scope is decent because UOP has all recent technologies available and we as IDS students will have access to all nearby major hospitals and patients of all varieties. UOP concentrates on CLINICAL RESEARCH which is good according to my opinion as that is what matters the most in day by day routine practice. If you don't know anything by now then major breakthroughs by UOP includes clinical research on Invisalign and the invisible braces for adults.

17) You asked me about the cost-factor, I don't think so there's much difference between both schools. Honestly, both school expenses go over 200K. I don't mind paying little higher for UOP as quality matters the most to me. I believe if I have a quality in my work and I'm a perfectionist for all kind of work I'm supposed to perform, I certainly can recover the little difference of money within less than a year, isn't it? Don't think much if you have no plan for PG in near future, trust me UOP will matter with a long time prospect just because of quality.

18) UOP's location in Pacific Heights is considered to be a major advantage, particularly as a place to live while in dental school. Do you really want to go to crowded place like UCSF for two years of your life?

19) I know one of faculty members at UOP and previous UCSF student personally. He's probably the best person to judge both schools and he insisted me to stick myself with UOP for few reasons. His explanations are pretty much logical and his suggestions made me convinced enough for my decision making.

20) UCSF's ‘Independent Study Option' (ISO) is the worst thing I found out among all schools I visited. ISO doesn't make any sense and it is waste of time, the IDS/IDP program already is compressed and we need to learn many things within two years of spam. So, UCSF students keep saying that UCSF program is stress-free because of ISO thing, to me - it doesn't make any sense.

21) I liked the concept of ‘SCOPE' program. It has got SF main dental clinic and 14 different clinics throughout the BAY area.

22) Why we foreigners came to US as a dentist? Everyone might have 100 different reasons but one common interest of all is that we all dentists want to learn all recent advancements and technologies. UOP give all opportunities without no limitations. It's entirely up to you what extent you want to gain out of the school.

23) One of the highest passing rates of WREB licensure exam on first attempt, perfect place if you want to go ahead with your future in California. They prepare the best out of us for licensure exams.

Hope that helps! 🙂

I agree with your opinion,
All the best to you too 🙂
No offence but as long as DDS is one's mission, UOP remains the best of all schools. You want to be a perfectionist as a general dentist, simply go for it. UOP has produced best clinicians, no doubt about that and history proves it. Cost all together is going to be nearly the same for both UOP and UCSF schools. I am going ahead with UOP because I know current students there and I got impressed massively with the facility and currculum at UOP that UCSF lacks to the certain extent. Sorry, cannot write more than this.

Your suggestions still are welcome as I got acceptance into both schools, most likely I'm going ahead with UOP.

Good luck everyone waiting,
Congrats everyone who got acceptance,

See you soon! 🙂

 

[smiles2009]

MissionISP thanks a lot for your valuable input👍!!! Most of your points lead to one thing that UOP offers a very good clinical exposure (cited in lot of other posts too) and is among one of the best choices if your long term goal is to be a general dentist and start practicing immediately after you graduate.

I would like to add that students who are interested in a residency program after DDS or want to keep this option open would be better off going to schools which are research oriented.

Most of the IDP schools have residency programs and ample of research oppurtunities in most of the specializations. Also, unlike UOP, DDS work load in research universities would be relatively less giving students some extra time to collaborate in research (a necessity for residency programs) and build up their resumes specific to their choice of residency programs.

You stated in your post that you are only interested in general practice after DDS and it makes total sense for you to go to a school which is supposedly best to hone your clinical skills.

Personally, I think all these schools have some pros and cons and it would be novice to claim one school is best or better than others.

I guess each student is a unique case in itself and should he/she have an option to chose (not many ppl have that luxury here🙂) they should first think hard about their short and long term career goals and then determine which school best fits their professional and personal requirements.

I am sorry but reading your post is a bit depressing 🙁for those who didn't apply to UOP or didn't get accepted. I believe a hard working graduate from BU or NYU or UCSF or any other school would turn out to be a great dentist too🙂....I don't mean to offend you in any way and please don't take anything personally...

my 2 cents....

 

[dentistcool]

I would like to tell all m y fellow friends that if they know any one from the school.they can get to know the pros and cons of both the schools but i know ucsf is far better than uop,no offenses to any one,but if u go into details then u can find out that ucsf gives u all the oppurtunities that mission impossible has mentioned.ucsf also gives u certification of invisalign before graduatiing.uop doesnt accept dentacal patients and is expensive than ucsf so most of the patients who cannot afford dental treatment they prefer to go to ucsf as its govt aided school.if u talk about research uop is no where near ucsf and ucsf gives their undergrads to do all the treatments even that covered in speciality part.and regarding the fee,if u compare it including the facilities which ucsf gives,free travel shuttles from anywhere in the city,even at midnight if one gets struck,they can call the shuttles.moreover cost of living is very cheaper compard to uop.also they train u to be not only best general dentists,but alto gives u option if u want to go to specialisation.if u dig deeper,my firned u will find out that ucsf is far better that uop.faculty is supercool and even the seniors are very helpfull.its my personal opinion and no offend to anyone.so guys think before u make decission atleast its ur money which u want to spend and it should be worthwhile.private schools are always know to be costlier than govt aided schools and dats a fact.so make ur decission accordingly.all the best to everyone

 

[MissionISP]

I hope you both guys get into your dream schools soon, like I got into mine.

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Folks, I thought of sharing few information here, hope it helps to everyone.

Everyone should have a look on these links, it's worth wasting time:
There are loads of misconception going on here and there,
My purpose is to make everything clear to everybody.

I'm sure it will help you a lot to know present dental system in US. Also, I suggest everyone not trust anyone by what one says or by what you hear from a third person.

Just jump into the ocean if you want to learn swimming
I had ups and downs last year. I didn't accept defeat so easily. I fought the system. I learned the system. I Went to few schools personally, met senior friends, alumnis and even professors and got plenty of hidden information. THERE ARE 100 WAYS of reaching destination.

Go through links, study it thoroughly. It's worth wasting time, folks. 🙂

# Useful and relevant links: [I feel everyone should have look at it]

(1) http://www.ada.org/prof/prac/licensure/licensure_state_requirements_intl.pdf

(2) http://www.ada.org/prof/ed/careers/infopaks/advanced.pdf

# Hints:
- Go through Page no. 2 & 3 of (2) for sure.
- Go through every sublinks (blue colored highlighted links) on this pdf.
- Take a pen and paper. Analyze everything only after going through it thoroughly.

# Note:
Now, these two links are survey & studies by ADA.

# Present Dental Scene in US (October, 2009 survey):
http://www.cmaj.ca/earlyreleases/21o...shortage.shtml

# Dentist😛opulation Ratio in US:
-> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...01071-0042.pdf

# Present DENTAL productivity:
-> http://www.ada.org/ada/prod/survey/faq.asp
If any of your relatives are ADA members, you may have access to many present surveys in PDF documents for the updated-year-2009 LATEST information. All I can say is that DENTISTRY is PERMANENT, RECESSION is temporary. DREAM of IMMORTALITY has given a charm and GLAMOR to the FIELD of DENTISTRY. So, don't think with respect to recession. At least, I have seen all fresh general dentists in California making pretty good money and almost 90-95% fresh dentists I saw, have a job in hand at present.

# Future Dental Prediction by ADEA till 2020:
-> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X80KSBTW
Download this powerpoint presentation, go through it thoroughly. It definitely will help you. It's an EYE OPENER.

 

[finalefforts]

i would say if u have option choose the one which gives u less loan as both schools are very good in overall experience,but ucsf has high rate of graduates entering into mastrers.
that was because UOP was expensive and students genrerally preferred to work for a couple of years before opting for masters. now, UcSF is expensive than UOP and it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

also uop gives u general dentistry experience which is equally availaible in ucsf,but uop is very expensive,and thats the drawback.
UcSF is equally or probably more expensive this year onwards.

ucsf have their shuttles which pick u up from anywhere in sf area but no such system availaible in uop.
UcSF campus is spread out. housing is at mission bay - 30 minutes away from school.
UOP is more centric and does not require shuttles. thank god.

ucsf lodging is very cheap compared to uop as they just dont have seperate lodging arrangements for their students and students have to spend out of their pocket and make personal arrangements,mostly its expensive than ucsf.
who said UcSF is cheap? nothing in SF is cheap. as i said, UOP is more centric, has much better facilities.

ucsf is in a peacefully area but uop,very crowded and busy place.so choice is yours.i just tried to write some good points of both the schools
UOP has many more positives. u missed quite a few.

as i am waitlisted in both,so it doesnt make me any personal difference.may be whichever decission u take,might help me or some one like me who is waiting.gall the best and congrats once again.

UOP is my dream school. Im waitlisted but really wanna get in. pray for me people. I wasn't invited to UcSF IV. just to clear things beforehand.

 

[MissionISP]

I'm glad someone like you is here

UOP is my dream school. Im waitlisted but really wanna get in. pray for me people. I wasn't invited to UcSF IV. just to clear things beforehand.

 

[cooldentist]

UOP – 😍 😍 Very very friendly, Very stress free, they made every effort to make it a pleasing experience for me.
Pros about the school:
1) Friendly school
2) Every current students seemed to be satisfied with the program
3) Great alumni networking is available

4) UOP's mission is to make you the best general practioner you can
be and they work on it really hard.
5) One of very rare schools providing you opportunity to learn 'INVISALIGNERS' - isn't that great and simply awesome?
6) DUAL degree programs available and actively offered (State of the art technology!)

7) They mentor you towards the Regional licensing exam you want to
take .. both WREB and NREB!
8) They don’t promise what they cannot do - so, no fake promises!
9) The clinical experience at Pacific truly is overwhelming and mindblowing. My senior friends in the first year (not even completed their first years) have been given 45-55 patients each within a short spam and their second year is yet to begin. So, just imagine yourself.

10) Maximum Faculty number among schools I visited so far - it really makes lots of difference,
11) competency based learning: not limited to pre-clinicals but also extends into the clinic. Clinical requirements are very demanding. If you are not in lectures, you will be in the clinic. If you are not in the clinic, you will be in the lab. So, no free time and maximum use of two year program. (Paisa vasool! - that's what my senior friends said me)

12) All students get to do specialty work - this is unique part about UOP. Even If you want to do impacted molar extractions, they will guide you; you want to RCT molar, they will guide you and let you do it; implants - they will guide you; If you want to do perio surgery, they will guide you..... SO, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR POTENTIAL till what extent you wnat to learn from them.

13) UOP's state-of-the-art facilities and simulation lab with high class standard is amazing and the best ever among all schools I visited. Actually, I am from San Francisco and I have friends in both schools, so I have visited UOP & UCSF three-four times before I was interviewed. I know these schools from inside-out. Did you visit all dental departments at UOP and UCSF from inside? If you had then probably you might have made decision by now. UOP has all recent equipments available and it keeps all departments updated with recent advancements and technologies. Well, I found that UCSF recently has made observable changes and improved standard as compared to two years back but certainly it is nothing as compare to that of UOP.

14) Current students I personally met, convincingly opined me that 'STRONG clinical orientation' of UOP is a major factor in their decision making. UOP has few current students like us who had acceptances in both UOP and UCSF last year and they preferred UOP just because they wanted perfection as a DDS and had no plans going for PG. According to them, the present era is all about dental revolution; UOP curriculum is entirely based on ‘comprehensive patient care’, I guess USC is the other school with same kind of standard but has few drawbacks, so UOP aces over USC. I don't have no plan for PG like my senior friends at UOP, so my goal is that I must know comprehensive patient management and I should be self-confident to treat my patients convincingly after completing DDS. UCSF on the other hand, has tried to simulate (copy) it from UOP but still is under experiment. Didn't you see notice-boards all over the walls of UCSF? UCSF authority keeps asking current students how students are feeling with comprehensive care/ 'human resources' experiments in the current curriculum?

15) Helpful and supportive environment with higher interaction with dental faculty members and quality of teaching is simply awesome and impressive. Didn’t you have an opportunity to interact with current students? If you did then probably you would not have asked me the same question, UOP believes in a team work. Believe me, this strategy works for development both as a person and as a professional. I didn’t find the same level of intimacy among the present IDP students/faculty members of UCSF. UOP already has gifted highest profile dentists to State of California in the dental profession. I’m from California and would love to be headed in a righteous direction. I just want to master my skills as a general dentist. UOP certainly makes its students a perfectionist. Quality of teaching is what might be compromised at UCSF as it's a government school.

16) Research scope is decent because UOP has all recent technologies available and we as IDS students will have access to all nearby major hospitals and patients of all varieties. UOP concentrates on CLINICAL RESEARCH which is good according to my opinion as that is what matters the most in day by day routine practice. If you don’t know anything by now then major breakthroughs by UOP includes clinical research on Invisalign and the invisible braces for adults.

17) You asked me about the cost-factor, I don’t think so there’s much difference between both schools. Honestly, both school expenses go over 200K. I don’t mind paying little higher for UOP as quality matters the most to me. I believe if I have a quality in my work and I’m a perfectionist for all kind of work I’m supposed to perform, I certainly can recover the little difference of money within less than a year, isn’t it? Don’t think much if you have no plan for PG in near future, trust me UOP will matter with a long time prospect just because of quality.

18) UOP's location in Pacific Heights is considered to be a major advantage, particularly as a place to live while in dental school. Do you really want to go to crowded place like UCSF for two years of your life?

19) I know one of faculty members at UOP personally. He’s Indian origin and previous UCSF-IDP student (hint: He recently has achieved one of the prestigious - ‘Faculty Award’ at UOP.) he’s probably the best person to judge both schools and he insisted me to stick myself with UOP for few reasons. I cannot disclose them as I have promised him not to disclose it already. But believe me, his explanations are pretty much logical and his suggestions made me convinced enough for my decision making.

20) UCSF’s ‘Independent Study Option’ (ISO) is the worst thing I found out among all schools I visited. ISO doesn’t make any sense and it is waste of time, the IDS/IDP program already is compressed and we need to learn many things within two years of spam. So, UCSF students keep saying that UCSF program is stress-free because of ISO thing, to me - it doesn’t make any sense.

21) I liked the concept of ‘SCOPE’ program. It has got SF main dental clinic and 14 different clinics throughout the BAY area.

22) Why we foreigners came to US as a dentist? Everyone might have 100 different reasons but one common interest of all is that we all dentists want to learn all recent advancements and technologies. UOP give all opportunities without no limitations. It’s entirely up to you what extent you want to gain out of the school.

23) One of the highest passing rates of WREB licensure exam on first attempt, perfect place if you want to go ahead with your future in California. They prepare the best out of us for licensure exams.

Hope that helps! 🙂

missionISP,
Whatever you have written about UOP is absolutely correct, even I myself know a few UOP graduates who are best clinicians, some went into PG programs and had no difficulty in doing so. You have also helped me in confirming some misconceptions I had. UOP is an Awesome school! I myself got accepted into BU, UCLA and UOP but I decided to go to UOP because of its great reputation, strong faculty and alumni. (not saying that the other schools do not have those qualities). I think that is funny how people are saying UOP is better, UCSF is better or whatever school, I personally think that its basically "what you put in, is what you will get out". It will depend upon the student what they make out of what they have in front of them. Getting into PG is about your overall resume, research is not the only deciding factor. See you in July!🙂

 

[MissionISP]

👍👍👍 I'm glad I could be some of your help,
I just wrote all points here so that it helps others in decision making. I feel, for all schools, this points should be considered. Btw I, confidently, opined everything cuz i know someone at UOP.

Yes, definitely resume counts. I can bet on this, hardly you get time to do research at any school while obtaining DDS. Everyone has this research .. research kind of hypes before one enters the program, most of the students don't even give a single damn to this research thing after entering the program. This is bitter truth.

SEE YOU IN JULY> 👍👍👍

Glad to know your achievements, congratulations 🙂

Dr Nehra

missionISP,
Whatever you have written about UOP is absolutely correct, even I myself know a few UOP graduates who are best clinicians, some went into PG programs and had no difficulty in doing so. You have also helped me in confirming some misconceptions I had. UOP is an Awesome school! I myself got accepted into BU, UCLA and UOP but I decided to go to UOP because of its great reputation, strong faculty and alumni. (not saying that the other schools do not have those qualities). I think that is funny how people are saying UOP is better, UCSF is better or whatever school, I personally think that its basically "what you put in, is what you will get out". It will depend upon the student what they make out of what they have in front of them. Getting into PG is about your overall resume, research is not the only deciding factor. See you in July!🙂

 

[smiles2009]

👍👍👍 I'm glad I could be some of your help,
I just wrote all points here so that it helps others in decision making. I feel, for all schools, this points should be considered. Btw I, confidently, opined everything cuz I know someone (very authentic person!) at UOP.

Thanks for considering my share of information in a RIGHTEOUS direction.
Yes, definitely OVERALL resume counts the most. I can bet on this, hardly you get time to do research at any school while obtaining DDS/DMD. Everyone has this research .. research kind of hypes before one enters the program, most of the students don't even give a single damn to this research thing after entering the program. This is bitter truth.

SEE YOU IN JULY> 👍👍👍

Glad to know your achievements, congratulations 🙂

Dr Nehra

Dr. Nehra

After reading your posts, sometimes it feels like you are one of the most genuine person here and is seriously trying to help others. Your accomplishments really tempt me to discuss with you my case in detail and to get some tips.

But other times, everything sounds fake to me including your claims of getting acceptance from UOP, UCSF and BU. First red flag comes from your joining and first posting date, almost two days after the results of 4 universities came out.

Why didn't you use your old ID? You have been a part of SDN for a long time, right?

If you are genuinly trying to help others and don't have a personal agenda here, i guess you won't mind posting your acceptance letters. You have already made your name public so it shouldn't be an issue.

If you have issues posting in public you can send it to me in PM. I would be very grateful to you if you could lay down my doubts to rest.

I am sorry but by previous bad experiences here have led me to question things which look fishy.

What do you say???

 

[MissionISP]

Good luck everyone!!!👍👍

Dr. Nehra

After reading your posts, sometimes it feels like you are one of the most genuine person here and is seriously trying to help others. Your accomplishments really tempt me to discuss with you my case in detail and to get some tips.

But other times, everything sounds fake to me including your claims of getting acceptance from UOP, UCSF and BU. First red flag comes from your joining and first posting date, almost two days after the results of 4 universities came out.

Why didn't you use your old ID? You have been a part of SDN for a long time, right?

If you are genuinly trying to help others and don't have a personal agenda here, i guess you won't mind posting your acceptance letters. You have already made your name public so it shouldn't be an issue.

If you have issues posting in public you can send it to me in PM. I would be very grateful to you if you could lay down my doubts to rest.

I am sorry but by previous bad experiences here have led me to question things which look fishy.

What do you say???

 

[MissionISP]

PM me if you need any kind of help from me, everyone is most welcome.

 

[smiles2009]

Dear Smiles2009,

Your arguements are logical, thanks for being so modest with me but your question is against someone's integrity. I'm hurt to certain extent. My previous ID and experience has been full of tragedies, I simply could not believe it when I got two positive results in a single day, especially after hearing many rejections last year & 'waiting listed' this year. I have forgotton my past the day I got into my dream school. I feel this id is a new life to me. Btw sincere thanks to Possible, tuftsy boy, La Fea and few more guys on SDN for helping me through out the journey and especially being with me during worst times.

It's been a tough journey. This is a female for your knowledge and nehra's my nick. Btw here on SDN, 2-3 ppl still know me personally with new ID. Meet me at UOP in July-2010 in person to know more details - I'll give my acceptance letters to you as a reward of personally meeting me. Also, it is entirely up to you to trust me or not. I didn't insist noone. People would believe it anyways if they find the facts truthful.

I'm here to help ppl like me, not to give my self-identity. Tell me how many before me have already done what you asked me to do right now? Posting my acceptance letters to ppl I even don't know? wth?
Also, if you feel - you had bad experiences like me, you're most welcome anytimes to send PM. I'll answer your queries in person.

--> My JOURNEY in a NUTSHELL:

# Donts':

I keep saying ppl 'DON'T TRUST BIG MOUTHS'; I extend it to say that don't even trust what I say if you consider me a big mouth. There is no point entirely trusting on others based upon what others tell AND what you HEAR from a third party person.

# Dos':

If you want to learn SWIMMING, you gotta JUMP into the OCEAN

Keep calling and asking dental schools, talk and discuss your issue to director/relevant authentic person of dental school, Visit few dental schools and meet alumnis/current students/mentors/professors to learn the whole system, keep yourself updated about every single move from ADA - awareness & self-realization is the most important thing. Get familiar with the system and know it well from scratch, inside-out. Belive me, it will work a lot that way apart from your routine NBD/TOEFL scores.

Hope that helps! 🙂

Good luck everyone!!!👍👍

Thanks for confirming my doubts and you can hold on to the letters should you get any........

 

[Guru bhai]

Congrates on your success and thanks a lot for all information, mission isp ... your all stuff that you have posted on various threads is impeccable and encouraging. I have gone through all posts of yours. It motivated me a lot to better.

Cooldentist ... I request you to share your experienc and whole journey on sticky, dude ... I am really proud of you, I will appreciate if you can enlighten in detail on sticky like missionISP did.

pacific is my dream school too. Bad luck, i did not get an interview call at pacific this year. I hope i get next year into pacific, hopefully. i had misbelief about many things but ongoing discussion here is so healthy, it helped me to broaden my view. pacific looks great, lets see if i can get admission next year.

my statistics are, 88/3.4/101/little observership experience in US/extra-curricular certificates and presentation from various countries i visited; I had an interview at ucsf but hopeless, i am on low-alternate-list. i do not see any hopes this year. I do not want to go to nyu. what should I do to improve my profile for next year application? everything is hopeless for me but I got inspiration from missionISP and i am ready to forget what happend perviously. should i retake part-1?

Thanks, cooldentist and missionISP ...
Please, i need replies from both of you.

missionISP,
Whatever you have written about UOP is absolutely correct, even I myself know a few UOP graduates who are best clinicians, some went into PG programs and had no difficulty in doing so. You have also helped me in confirming some misconceptions I had. UOP is an Awesome school! I myself got accepted into BU, UCLA and UOP but I decided to go to UOP because of its great reputation, strong faculty and alumni. (not saying that the other schools do not have those qualities). I think that is funny how people are saying UOP is better, UCSF is better or whatever school, I personally think that its basically "what you put in, is what you will get out". It will depend upon the student what they make out of what they have in front of them. Getting into PG is about your overall resume, research is not the only deciding factor. See you in July!🙂

 

[Guru bhai]

thanks mission isp,

i went through every link and got to know stuffs that no one answered me so well. please, post these links on sticky too. it will help unaware students like me. you have done thorough study to know system very well, i got impressed with your stuff on pacific school, i never did so thorough study of any school before few interviews i got. i hope i get admission by next year like you in a dream university.

I hope you both guys get into your dream schools soon, like I got into mine.

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Folks, I thought of sharing few information here, hope it helps to everyone.

Everyone should have a look on these links, it's worth wasting time:
There are loads of misconception going on here and there,
My sole purpose is to make everything clear to anybody and everybody.

I'm sure it will help you a lot to know present DENTAL SYSTEM in US. Also, I suggest everyone NOT to trust anyone by what one says or by what you hear from a third person.

JUST jump into the OCEAN if YOU WANT to LEARN SWIMMING.
I had ups and downs last year. I didn't accept defeat so easily. I fought the system. I learned the system. I Went to few schools personally, met senior friends, alumnis and even professors and got plenty of hidden information. THERE ARE 100 WAYS of reaching DESTINATION.

GO THROUGH LINKS GIVEN BELOW, study it thoroughly. It's worth wasting time, folks. 🙂

# Useful and relevant links: [I feel everyone should have look at it]

(1) http://www.ada.org/prof/prac/licensure/licensure_state_requirements_intl.pdf

(2) http://www.ada.org/prof/ed/careers/infopaks/advanced.pdf

# Hints:
- Go through Page no. 2 & 3 of (2) for sure.
- Go through every sublinks (blue colored highlighted links) on this pdf.
- Take a pen and paper. Analyze everything only after going through it thoroughly.

# Note:
Now, these two links are survey & studies by ADA.

# Present Dental Scene in US (October, 2009 survey):
http://www.cmaj.ca/earlyreleases/21o...shortage.shtml

# Dentist😛opulation Ratio in US:
-> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...01071-0042.pdf

# Present DENTAL productivity:
-> http://www.ada.org/ada/prod/survey/faq.asp
If any of your relatives are ADA members, you may have access to many present surveys in PDF documents for the updated-year-2009 LATEST information. All I can say is that DENTISTRY is PERMANENT, RECESSION is temporary. DREAM of IMMORTALITY has given a charm and GLAMOR to the FIELD of DENTISTRY. So, don't think with respect to recession. At least, I have seen all fresh general dentists in California making pretty good money and almost 90-95% fresh dentists I saw, have a job in hand at present.

# Future Dental Prediction by ADEA till 2020:
-> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X80KSBTW
Download this powerpoint presentation, go through it thoroughly. It definitely will help you. It's an EYE OPENER.

 

[MissionISP]

Hi Gurubhai, thanks for your kind words.

 

[ONS]

Hello friends ..
I want to request all the people who are not showing up in the group, please send the request again....I apologize for the inconvience....See you all soon...Thanks..