Uploading CV for Online Recruiters?

[DrDudeMD]

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I'm currently looking for positions after I graduate in 2016.

I've been directed to multiple sources to look for potential openings. My friend recently recommended Doccafe. This site, and others, allow you to electronically upload your CVs.

Can anyone share their experience with doing this? I'm concern about privacy issue. Once something gets uploaded, you can assume it's permanently out there.

Don't want to take the wrong step and regret it!

Thanks!

 

[NotAProgDirector]

Your concerns are very valid. This is a terrible idea. Contact hospitals / clinics / etc in areas that you're interested in, and only send them a CV if a position is available. Or, contact some recruiters -- but same deal, I would not give a recruiter your CV, they may simply post it publicly or blitz it out to a bunch of people randomly. Instead, have the recruiters send you information about the positions before you send anyone a CV. And you should also assume that many recruiters will be untruthful about positions they are representing.

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

I signed up for a few online sites, but no way am I going to actually post my CV.

 

[dyeguy21]

Seriously DO NOT DO THIS.

Recently, a law was passed which stated that as long as a freelance recruiter passes your CV onto a hospital, if you are hired by that hospital , the recruiter gets paid whether or not they actually connected the two. Hospitals don't really like the fact that they have to shell out 25-50k because you posted your CV online and it makes some of the negotiations harder.

Also to all people seeking contracts:

If you want something: Ask (nicely). This means: 1. stipend during final year, 2. Down payment on first home, 3. Loan repayment, 4. Signing bonus. They will not offer these things straight up, but many of the larger hospital chains and community hospitals are in need of doctors and are willing to negotiate to get you there.

How to do this:
1. Research a geographic area/hospital you want to be in.
2. Figure out information about the hospital: For profit, not for profit, community served etc.
3. Call and say "Hi. I'm a resident physician in [specialty] calling to find out information about your program, may I speak with the in-house recruiter?" (in house recruiters are salaried, they will still build up the program, but they won't be swayed by commission like independent recruiters)
4. Ask what their head count is (this tells you their service population, then figure out how many doctors they have in your specialty, find the optimum ratio for specialty to population online (its out there), then do the math to find out their need)
5. If you're interested ask about some of the things above and if they offer them. (don't be afraid to move stuff around as well, they may say we don't do loan repayment, but we'll give you a bonus....well bonuses are taxed at lottery levels, while repayment would be taxed as normal income...ask if they can apply the bonus instead to educational repayment, etc.)
6. If still interested, they may offer you a site visit, accept if you'd like to go (the hospital should be willing to pay for part or all of the visit)
7. If you get to contract level, ask for a full copy, go to a healthcare lawyer, give him a list of what you agreed should be in the contract and say "check to make sure all these things are there and I don't have to pay back any of the extra incentives" (ask for a resident discount, some universities actually offer this service for free)
8. Sign contract and prosper.

EDIT: The above doesn't apply to places in California. Lots of people want to be there, they hand you a contract and you either take it or leave it.

 

[Angry Birds]

Bad bad idea.

 

[typhoonegator]

All very sage responses. You are more wanted than you realize (unless you're a pathologist, and even then), and you don't need to make sacrifices to put yourself out there. Because MD salaries are pretty darn good in the grand scheme, recruiters are happy to skim off the top. Remember that hospitals/groups only work with outside recruiters if they know/think that they won't be able to easily fill the position, either because of location, work load, reputation, reimbursement, or all of the above. You're a lot better off cutting out the middle man and reaching out yourself. Also, talk to your program director. Most program directors pride themselves on how well their residents do in the market, either through good fellowships or good jobs. As such, many of them have a lot of contacts, particularly in the area around where you've trained. Now if you want to move to Alaska, they might not be able to do as much. In-house recruiters, through a hospital network or group, are a different ballgame, and are far less predatory than the outside recruiter offering you "competitive salary and partnership opportunities" just "steps" from "art and sports activities" and a "short drive" away from the "rich cultural tapestry" offered by the third largest city in Idaho. This is the sort of noise you can expect an avalanche of as soon as you post your most vital stats on-line.

Think about your CV like a credit check. You wouldn't want just anyone running a credit check on you when you walk into a car dealership, right? You wait until you are sure you want to buy the car, then you give them your information. Your CV is the same way -- only give it to someone if it benefits you directly to have them look at it.

 

[shan564]

Thanks for this thread. I almost sent my CV to a recruiter.

 

[DrDudeMD]

There some quite a number of different recruiting firms, some are more established than others. I've had colleagues who went through some recruiter with no issues. I guess its a matter of finding the right person.

What about career fairs? I've been to one last year where it was well represented by hospitals/clinics. I'm set to go back again later this year. In this situation, it woudn't be all that bad to give my CV out to the firms/hospitals/clinics that I'm interested in, right? I'm getting the impression that recruiters are evil car salesman trying to rip us off...

If anyone can also come up with a list of "reputable" recruiters/companies, that would be great!

 

[dyeguy21]

There some quite a number of different recruiting firms, some are more established than others. I've had colleagues who went through some recruiter with no issues. I guess its a matter of finding the right person.

What about career fairs? I've been to one last year where it was well represented by hospitals/clinics. I'm set to go back again later this year. In this situation, it woudn't be all that bad to give my CV out to the firms/hospitals/clinics that I'm interested in, right? I'm getting the impression that recruiters are evil car salesman trying to rip us off...

If anyone can also come up with a list of "reputable" recruiters/companies, that would be great!

Practicematch online is actually well respected. As far as anywhere else, it is far better to research an area you want to be in and then DIRECTLY contact the in-house recruiter at those hospitals. They will give you a far better idea of what you are getting into.