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Well, if it is a fact, and everybody knows it, then I was wrong to think otherwise

NYU should not be mentioned in the same breath as Harvard, UCSF, Stanford, and JHU.
The students that go there should be ashamed of themselves. In fact they are by association inferior in all respects to the students that attend the true elite medical schools.
Everyone knows that REAL PRESTIGE does not come free

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You’d think a busy ortho attending such as yourself would have better things to do than repeatedly and tirelessly defend NYU on SDN

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Does anyone know why Loyola Stritch School of Medicine has been unranked for the last few years? They used to be ranked in early 2010, but no new ranking has been reported since.
 
Does anyone know why Loyola Stritch School of Medicine has been unranked for the last few years? They used to be ranked in early 2010, but no new ranking has been reported since.
They probably just stopped participating in the foolery, like Tulane did.
 
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Well, if it is a fact, and everybody knows it, then I was wrong to think otherwise

NYU should not be mentioned in the same breath as Harvard, UCSF, Stanford, and JHU.
The students that go there should be ashamed of themselves. In fact they are by association inferior in all respects to the students that attend the true elite medical schools.
Everyone knows that REAL PRESTIGE does not come free

April fools

Jokes hold many truths. Also, you clearly have a NYU affiliation based on your post history

My issue is not with the students. My issue is with cheaters. I don't condone students cheating and I don't condone med schools cheating, especially at the expense of underserved communities who were left to rot. Quite a med school you have there that cares more about its rankings than the people that they are supposed to serve.
 
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Does anyone know why Loyola Stritch School of Medicine has been unranked for the last few years? They used to be ranked in early 2010, but no new ranking has been reported since.
I feel like once a school is below 75ish, it is better just not to be ranked because at that point it probably starts to affect matriculation rates and PD impressions.
 
I feel like once a school is below 75ish, it is better just not to be ranked because at that point it probably starts to affect matriculation rates and PD impressions.
Loyola gets 15k apps per year, has great hospital affiliations, and a good match list. I doubt a rank of 75 would affect any of that. Also, Loyola was ranking around 60 IIRC
 
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You’d think a busy ortho attending such as yourself would have better things to do than repeatedly and tirelessly defend NYU on SDN

You’d think that but our lifestyle is such that we can sht post on a Friday afternoon.

Something to think about med students…
 
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I feel like once a school is below 75ish, it is better just not to be ranked because at that point it probably starts to affect matriculation rates and PD impressions.
Loyola was ranking in the 60s like sousa7 said. Also, there are a lot of schools that rank 75 and below, but are still published. So, I think that this comment is inaccurate with regards to describing Loyola and there may be other factors at play that make the school unranked. Like it was said earlier in this thread, a lot of the Midwest schools are not getting the credit they deserve when it comes to their reputation and a number should not define the quality of the medical education.

If anyone is a current student at Stritch, I would really appreciate your insight as to why the school has no ranking published for years now. Is it because Stritch has a religious affiliation?
 
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Reading threads like these bring me back to my high school days when my gunner nerd buddies and I would obsess over university prestige and who was going to what school, etc...

Eventually, I did make it to a Top 10 ranked college (fat lot of good that did me for medical school admissions). Though now that I'm on the other side of the prestige barrier, I can see how insufferable my friends and I must have been back then lol.
 
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Loyola was ranking in the 60s like sousa7 said. Also, there are a lot of schools that rank 75 and below, but are still published. So, I think that this comment is inaccurate with regards to describing Loyola and there may be other factors at play that make the school unranked. Like it was said earlier in this thread, a lot of the Midwest schools are not getting the credit they deserve when it comes to their reputation and a number should not define the quality of the medical education.

If anyone is a current student at Stritch, I would really appreciate your insight as to why the school has no ranking published for years now. Is it because Stritch has a religious affiliation?
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But more than a few private schools do this. Religious affiliation generally doesn’t factor in. It’s just preference I think
 
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But more than a few private schools do this. Religious affiliation generally doesn’t factor in. It’s just preference I think
I don’t know why they don’t participate but like it doesn’t really matter you know? The only people who care about these rankings are premed for real Lol. Once ur in actual Med school you never hear people talk about that ****Z

We matched 6 ortho 6 derm this year. We have a very well established and well known reputation in the residency world.
 
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Lol NYU went from a top 30 to number 2 school in less than 10 years..what a joke these ranking systems are
 
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This probably explains why:
Johns Hopkins University led all U.S. institutions in total National Institutes of Health (NIH) funding for federal fiscal year 2021, with more than $820 million in awards, $824,856,274 to be exact. The rest of the top ten institutions were:
  • New York University School of Medicine ($809,311,644),
  • Duke University ($731,237,450),
  • University of California, San Francisco ($709,018,244),
  • Leidos Biomedical Research, which partners with the National Cancer Institute to operate the Frederick National Laboratory for Cancer Research, ($653,182,427),
  • University of Pennsylvania ($641,789,096),
  • Washington University, St. Louis ($623,444,653),
  • Stanford University ($611,354,637),
  • University of Michigan ($609,038,367) and
  • Massachusetts General Hospital ($600,667,106).
 
This probably explains why:

One issue with this is the fact that NYU and Duke have short-term clinical research grants that superficially inflate their biomedical research prowess. NYU's grant, for example, is worth ~$450M. That's over half of all of NYU's NIH-funded research going to one clinical project by one PI (in collaboration with several other biomedical research centers). If you remove this one PI and project, NYU has ~$360M in NIH funding. If you remove the largest grant by a PI from any of these other schools (except Duke), they're all still very close to their overall funding amount.

To be clear, NYU does still have some great research. But from a research perspective, it really isn't in the same league as Harvard, UCSF, Hopkins, Penn, WashU, Stanford, and Michigan. Duke's clinical COVID grant is worth ~$119M. So even without it, they still have ~$612M in biomedical research funding.

Ultimately this doesn't really matter at all for non-MSTPs (all of these schools have far more research resources than an MD student could even hope to take advantage of lol), but I think the context is still important. The number behind funding doesn't tell the whole story.
 
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