UsmleWorld/Qbank STEP3 Correlation

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Does anyone know what the correlations are between Usmleworld and Qbank scores and actual step 3 scores? I doubt many people do to much for this test, but in case some have please post what your experience was or what you have heard. I ve seen the Step 2 correlation posts but I am guessing Step 3 is a different animal seeing as how most people do the "2 pencil" prep approach for this one.
 
Most people take Step III while they are in their PGY-1 year. Since your free time (read study time) is at a premium, and the you only need a PASS on this exam, most people do not spend a significant amount of time preparing for this test.

That being said, people who are in Internal Medicine and Family Medicine, usually do very well on Step III because a majority of the questions deal with the same types of patients that these primary care specialties see regularly in clinic, the emergency department and office. If you are in one of these specialties, you have likely done most of your prep by just going to work daily. If you are in a surgical specialty, you might want to do more work with something like Q-Bank/USMLEworld etc so that you can refresh your medicine skills. If you are in a surgical specialty residency and a couple of years out from medical school, you definitely want to do some significant review of primary care medicine (Q-Bank, USMLEworld, Crush USMLE Step III etc).

As for score correlation on Q-Bank and USMLEWorld, use the same percentages as for Step II. USMLE Step III has the same format with one very important exception and that is the Clincial Cases. I am not exactly sure on this one but I seem to remember that the minimum pass score for USMLE Step III is about the same as for USMLE Step II (around 182) so the same percentages should be a fairly good guideline. The good thing is that your score on USMLE Step III doesn't matter unless you fail and thus, whatever correlations you have found for Step II will likely work or exceed Step III.

You have to do nine or so, clinical cases using the software that USMLE sends when you register for the test. The single most important thing that you can do to help your score here is PRACTICE, PRACTICE and practice with that software. Also, read the critiques of the clinical cases that come with that disk.

My experience with Step III was that the clinical scenarios for the questions are shorter than those that I had on Step II. On my first day of Step III testing, I had about 9 or 10 blocks of 30-40 questions in various settings like the Emergency Department, on a general medicine ward and in a primary care office. The patients ranged from peds to geriatric. The disease gambit was nothing obscure like alpha-1-antitrypsin deficiency but fairly common things like rashes, diabetes mellitus type I and II, gallbladder disease, appendicitis, meningitis, Alzheimers Disease and other fairly common things that bring people to primary care. There is a significant amount of preventive medicine on the test too (immunizations, health maintenence).

On the second day, I had more 30-40 question blocks and the nine cases. Again, being totally comfortable with the software is of paramount importance so that you can get everything done within the alloted amount of time.

The other thing to remember is not to panic if your case ends early. This usually means that you have done enough to make a diagnosis. Just finish up any orders that you need, (remember the health maintenance stuff) and write your diagnosis.

My other piece of advice is to take Step III as soon as you can especially if you are in a surgical internship. The further away from your medical school training, the more prep and the more of a "PITA" this exam will be. I took my Step III right after ABSITE (American Board of Surgery In-Training Exam) during in my PGY-1 year as I am in General Surgery. My fellow surgical interns did much the same. It took me a couple of weekends to prepare and get used to the software.

I hope that this helps.
 
i'm a pgy-4 in general surgery. just took step III a month ago and got my score back a few days ago. i used crush step 3 only. as far as score correlation, i was getting about 60% correct on usmleworld.com and actual step III score was 221. i'll second that great advice by njbmd....

only thing to add is that an approach i found to be helpful to immediately do questions related to what you just reviewed. i.e. review peds, do peds questions, review ob/gyn, do ob/gyn questions. this helps you apply and reinforce concepts rather trying to do mixed questions only at the end of reviewing.
 
InStyle magazine, the one with Lindsay (my new BFF) on the cover, has it that:
Step 2CK = (UW% X 2.3) + 84
Step 3 = 2.3UW + 80

For those of you who have taken Step 3, could you please, like, comment if this same formula applies to Step 3?

I just love guys who comment on the veracity of formulae - they're so hot!
 
I personally think that Surgery deals with a TON of internal medicine, and sometimes even overlooks it, because the residents and interns are solely fixated on Surgery, but dont even realize that they learned so much medicine, and do quite quite well on Step III in turn... like fluids and electrolytes, I think that Surgeons have a great knowledge of Medicine, which is the core essential regarding Step III, General Surgery that is...
Peds and Psych questions are not so tough.... Ethics are the killers though and by far..
 
I can only comment on Kaplan. My scores were all over the place on practice tests but I ended up doing ok on the exam...so who knows....

Oh, my second day ended really, I mean REALLY, early....maybe ending around noon....I was freaking out....thought I for sure I failed the clinical cases...but I passed
 
Is there any rough correlation between QBank and actual Step 3 score? I'm not too happy with my QB score thus far (54%), so I'm a bit concerned with only 2 weeks left. Thanks.
 
Read first aid once, read crush two days before the exam, did about 800 QB questions and was getting about 60% correct. All I can say is that I passed...whoohooo
 
I used FA (simply because I saw this book first) and UW. I completed all of the questions on UW and my average was 54%.

Just found out my score on the website. I passed with 216/89. Stoked to be done with the steps finally!

I found the actual test to be easier than UW. I had done a transitional year internship which i think helped.

Agree with people saying do the CD multiple times and you will fly through the cases.

Good luck to all.....
 
I went through both crush and first aid pretty quickly and did about 800 of the unsmleworld questions.

I thought first aid was an excellent overview to brush up on concepts which I wasn't strong on or had forgotten. The CCS cases were helpful in the back as well and is why I bought it in the first place. Overall the book is more organized and comprehensive in my view, but a little less high yield.

Crush and Usmleworld were more high yield in terms of specific points made on each showed up on the test. I got a question on the inheritence pattern of a disease, which was directly on usmleworld and I probably wouldn't have known it otherwise. Crush had points on derm and vaccinations that were directly on my test as well, there are more examples.

My overall average on usmlewold was 49%, but I did questions from the very beginning and throughout. I did poorly at first, then my score consistently bumped up to 58% on block of 200 questions. Then my scores started dropping back to about 50% in my final stretch, which made me a little nervous.

Based on overall score of 49%, score predictor score says: 192
Based on my run of about 200 questions where I did better and averaged 58%, score predictor: 212

My final score: 217
 
I took Step 3 after 2.5 years of Pathology residency (thus really far out from med school). Read Crush and First Aid, then did USMLEWorld. Finished all the questions with an average of about 49%. Then went back and did all the questions I missed, raising my score to closer to 60%. Step 3 score: 205.
 
hey - got my score, adding another to the correlation stats:

usmleworld average low 50s, 53-54%
step III score 208

good luck to those studying
 
you guys are so great for updating this thread! keep it up, everyone! 🙂
 
whoo hoo - i passed! 🙂

i'm so glad that crap is over
usmleworld = 50-55% and scored within one standard deviation above the mean 🙂 yes yes yes!
 
I got 54% on UW, 214 on Step III.

Studied First Aid, UW, and my notes from Step II. Average on the test according to my report was 213.
 
I passed too!!!

I used USMLEWorld MCQ for 16 days and CCS for 5 days. I only had 3 weeks to prepare.

USMLEWorld MCQ = 62%

By the way, I'm an IMG with Internal Medicine experience in my home country. Goodluck to everyone!!
 
Step 3 - Did about 1100 questions, ave 50% but re-did wrong questions. Used Crush and old step 2 notes.
Ended up with a 206 on real thing.:laugh:
I am so happy to be done with usmle's forever.👍
 
I had about 68% on Kaplan QBank...

I used USMLEWorld CCS section.

I took NBME CCM Practice Exam online... got 450...

and... <drumroll> please....


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I passed...

no more Steps!!!!!!!


finally... 👍👍👍
 
So basically... if you do around 50% usmleworld and/or kaplan... if your performance is much or less the same on the real exam, you can get a passing grade?

I'm taking it in a few days... just need to pass, don't really care about the grade.
 
So basically... if you do around 50% usmleworld and/or kaplan... if your performance is much or less the same on the real exam, you can get a passing grade?

I'm taking it in a few days... just need to pass, don't really care about the grade.

i was hte same way - just needed to pass teh stupid thing. you should be fine with 50% or hgihter, i say.
 
Like most, I wandered onto this forum when I was preparing for Step 3 to get an idea of how my scores on UW would translate on the actual Step 3 exam, so, for those who are doing the same here were my results:

I did all of the UW questions, with a cumulative score of 58%, as well as all of the CCS cases a couple of times each... I received my results yesterday and I got a 203 (84). I actually felt more prepared going into the test, but I never did practice questions under the similar time constraint as I would face on the actual exam and I definitely felt like I didn't have enough time on the test. Although I did complete all of the blocks, there were a couple where I finished with only 1-3 seconds left. The cases were very very similar to those from UW, and in my opinion were rather easy. I walked out of the exam not knowing how to feel because of the time constraint (as well as when I did the questions on UW I always did them on tutorial mode so I always had an idea of how I was doing, and on the actual case you just GO), and I was actually thinking that UW was not an adequate representation of the actual exam questions, but, I guess you can add me to the long list of people who can say if you can do UW, you'll pass Step 3!

BTW, I am currently applying through ERAS for a pgy-1 position and took the exam since as an IMG I had some down time before next July and wanted to get it out of the way.👍
 
I am re-taking USMLE Step 3 in a month (missed passing by a point!). I used USMLE World the first time I took it and would like to use it again, but am concerned that I may get the same questions or the same CCS cases. Is the question bank large enough to use the program again, or has it been updated since last year?

Any thoughts or suggestions?
 
Hi all.
I unfortunately had to take the test twice. The adage of two months for step one, two weeks for step 2, and #2 pencil for step 3 was not true for me.
I was at about 54% on UW and scored about a 205 on my second attempt. I didn't study for my first attempt and got a 179.
 
I'm using USMLE world right now and although I appreciate the access to a QBank, I can't shake the feeling that some of the questions are nothing but distractions.

I wonder if anyone else feels this way.

There are some questions that go into minutiae that I'm almost certain will not be the thrust of the real exam itself. One never knows of course, but I doubt the actual STEP will ask about the recurrence rate for a pelvic cystic mass in a primigravida???!

Or at least I hope not. :scared:

I don't know that I'll be content to just pass this exam. For some reason, I'm aiming for 260s. And I don't know if UWorld is on board with this plan. 🙁
 
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