UT Houston, UTMB, UTHSCSA, Scott and White

[texas2011]

Haven't found much comparing these programs. any opinions, experiences would be greatly appreciated. Thought it would be good to start a thread for all the texas IM folks.

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[jbp100]

Haven't found much comparing these programs. any opinions, experiences would be greatly appreciated. Thought it would be good to start a thread for all the texas IM folks.

DISCLAIMER: ALL OF THESE ARE MY OWN PERSONAL IMPRESSIONS AFTER INTERVIEWING AT 3/4 of these programs and doing a Sub-I at one of them.

UT Houston = interviewed there. Seem to have pretty good fellowship placement (could be wrong on this, as I don't care to seek fellowship training). Pretty rigorous place, they will work you hard at LBJ and at Hermann. If I recall correctly, the upper level is Q3 in the ICU 😱

UTMB = have no knowledge of this place

UTHSCSA = Interviewed here, more academic than I expected. Their chairman is some bigshot cardiology guy. University Hospital is the shoddiest facility I saw on all 12 of my interviews. There is definitely no lack of volume here. They moved lower on my list because they do not allow moonlighting.

Scott and White = I did a Sub-I here and really liked it. Brand new hospital and residents seem to run the show. Plenty of moonlighting opportunities. Some people would have a problem living in Temple, but I have no issues with a smaller town. Almost every fellowship imaginable is available in-house.

Other Texas folks care to chime in?

 

[Moonglow]

UTHSCSA is building a new $780million hospital next to the one that you visited (which will be reconstructed) - detailed description:

http://hr.universityhealthsystem.com/legacy/xwebdocs/cip/newsletter/docs/Conceptual-designs.pdf

San Antonio residents are considered the "happiest" in academic medicine.

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UT-Houston is very academic and located in the Texas Medical Center, and residents do rotate through MDAnderson - 'nuff said. LBJ has a great Associate PD based there who loves to teach.

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Scott & White is the "best kept secret" in Texas residency; they tend to look for residents who want to stay and work in Texas.

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UTMB is still recovering from Hurricane Ike; they have reduced the size of their residency class; residents rotate through several hospitals, including on the mainland and at the Texas medical Center.

 

[obiwan]

i felt that UTH is always trying to overcome the shadow of working next to BCM but it still a very good program with good training sites...

UT San antonio i feel is trying to sort of build a program like southwestern (their current chair used to be chair at UTSW) since it appears that they have put a lot of effort and money into bringing this program to the next level

temple also has a great program and i enjoyed my interview even though i really don't like small cities

 

[ak99]

what do you guys think of the methodist hospital-houston
i had an interview there , but not quite sure of the future of that program, because it is quite new, but i really liked the program.
you guys have any input??
good luck in the match

 

[AsROMA]

What do you think of the UTMB vs UT-H in terms of fellowship placement ? It appears that UTMB is little less intense /stress than UT-H. Any thought?

 

[Moonglow]

As an undergrad at Rice, I worked at UT-H in various departments for four years. The rule at UT-H is that any resident who wants to fellow, can do so. Many fellow in Heme/Onc and Cards, as residents exeperience those subs when they rotated through the high quality facilities of MDAnderson the Texas Heart Institute.

 

[Mjs12DO]

Scott & White-I agree with the previous poster that this is the best kept secret in Texas and maybe the midwest. This is a great program with fantastic teachers and facilities. You can land any fellowship inhouse here. This was one of the most educational places that I interviewed at.

UTHSCSA-I was much more impressed after my visit than I initially thought I would be. This place had a wonderful morning report. If you have any interest in Pulm/CC this place is pretty good for that. This place had some of the coolest residents on my interview trail. I'm glad to hear that the facilities are getting improved because they really need it.

UTMB- This place is still recovering from Hurricane Ike. This used to be a great program, but they lost a lot of their faculty. An ok program, but will definitely keep getting better.

UT-Houston- In my opinion a program that makes residency even harder than it should be. I felt the residents were unhappy. Decent fellowships matches, and you get to work at MD Anderson. Suprisingly they still do not match that many to MD Anderson.

 

[Dr Ymous]

i felt that UTH is always trying to overcome the shadow of working next to BCM but it still a very good program with good training sites...

I would hardly think that UTH is living in a shadow. Not to mention, BCM lost their affiliation with Methodist and are scrambling to build their own hospital while fighting financial hardship. Meanwhile, Methodist has teamed up with Weill Cornell, of all places!

UT San antonio i feel is trying to sort of build a program like southwestern (their current chair used to be chair at UTSW) since it appears that they have put a lot of effort and money into bringing this program to the next level

I may be reading too much into this, but what makes UT Southwestern IM program better than UTHSCSA IM program? Because its a bigger program? Because its in Dallas? Because UT Southwestern's "medical school" has 4 Nobel laureates that likely never interact with any IM residents? ... I tend to think that training at either institution would be fantastic.

Both Parkland and UH are older and run down, but thats means little. However, both get high volume and have great faculty.

 

[jdh71]

Scott & White-I agree with the previous poster that this is the best kept secret in Texas and maybe the midwest. This is a great program with fantastic teachers and facilities. You can land any fellowship inhouse here. This was one of the most educational places that I interviewed at.

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Seriously.

 

[ResidentMD]

I would hardly think that UTH is living in a shadow. Not to mention, BCM lost their affiliation with Methodist and are scrambling to build their own hospital while fighting financial hardship. Meanwhile, Methodist has teamed up with Weill Cornell, of all places!

How does Methodist teaming up with Cornell have anything to do with the BCM training program? They split over 5 years ago! BCM, while having lost some reputation, is still considered a very strong training program from IM residency POV, because of Ben Taub. And their fellowship matches, even this year, are a reflection of that.

I may be reading too much into this, but what makes UT Southwestern IM program better than UTHSCSA IM program? Because its a bigger program? Because its in Dallas? Because UT Southwestern's "medical school" has 4 Nobel laureates that likely never interact with any IM residents? ... I tend to think that training at either institution would be fantastic.

Both Parkland and UH are older and run down, but thats means little. However, both get high volume and have great faculty.

The training facilties may be on par. But I think UTSW carries a better national reputation. Its almost like the reputation Boston University carries, and the intensity of training that the residents have gone through seems to open doors. I would also have to say that I have seen a lot more faculty in the so-called top academic programs from UTSW, as compared to UT San Antonio. Lastly, UTSW definitely has better fellowship matches.
I'm not criticizing UT San Antonio in any way - I am sure its a fine program, just trying to hypothesize why UTSW is considered better.

 

[Dr Ymous]

How does Methodist teaming up with Cornell have anything to do with the BCM training program?

Well, the whole split might lead one to believe that there are much deeper issues. Sure, it was five years ago, but they lost a major teaching facility.

Now, in regard to the Methodist - Cornell team, Not much, actually. I was just surprised. With the other well respected options in Texas, they decide to team up with a school that's on the opposite end of the country.

Anyways, I don't doubt that the training is still good at Baylor. However, Baylor residents no longer have Methodist (a nationally recognized hospital) as a training site. That, in my very humble opinion, was a loss for BCM.