vanderbilt, yale, baylor, and uchicago

[greatsaphenousv]

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Hello
I am a US citizen in his final year studying at University of Manchester Medical School in the UK. I have applied to integrated VS programs, and have gotten some interviews for which I feel very fortunate. However, I have also applied to categorical GS programs and have gotten interview invites at Baylor, Yale, Vanderbilt, and University of Chicago. Anyone have any information about any of these 4 programs. Thank you.

 

[MsKrispyKreme]

Never heard of any of those programs.

 

[greatsaphenousv]

Never heard of any of those programs.

lol. well I mean to say is are one of these programs considered "malignant"? The reason for my asking is that my medical program is a 6 year medical program designed for students directly out of high school. The exposure that 3rd and 4th year US medical students get in surgery is far more extensive and intense than what I got in the British medical system for my undergraduate medical education. All British graduates go on to do housemanship before pursuing post graduate training. Housemanship, to my understanding, is equivalent in workload and challenges to a 3rd year US students workload in terms of responsibilities, clinical care, etc..

However I will be bypassing housemanship once I graduate from manchester and head back to the states, so obviously I am a little concerned about how I will do in residency because I think I am not on par with the other residents, certainly american medical graduates when i start residency. So a program which isnt known openly to be malignant, is a program I would far prefer rather than going after the name of a place.

 

[Ignatius M.D.]

Based upon what I've heard from friends at Vanderbilt med and from my college years there (essentially lived in the med center during college; studied, shadowed, researched, and worked at VUMC), it has an excellent environment. I recall having good experiences with every attending and resident I met, and Dr.Tarpley is wonderful. As I am not actually in medical school there though, perhaps someone further along that has rotated/interviewed there could add something to the contrary.

 

[calico5]

Do not have personal experience, but have spoken with residents from both UChicago and Vanderbilt who speak very well of those programs. As a current applicant, none of the programs you listed are on my radar as "malignant".

 

[CloverHoney]

Yale-New Hospital just bought out a hospital 6 blocks away (St. Raphael's). To my knowledge, the general surgery departments of the two hospitals merged and now is one of the largest in the U.S. Keep in mind that this will create a transition period over the next years so no one really knows how this will affect the GS program (either positively or negatively).

Also, I have heard from GS residents here that Yale *strong encourages* two research years (though I have heard that this is the trend at most decent academic programs).

 

[Sarr]

Hello
I am a US citizen in his final year studying at University of Manchester Medical School in the UK. I have applied to integrated VS programs, and have gotten some interviews for which I feel very fortunate. However, I have also applied to categorical GS programs and have gotten interview invites at Baylor, Yale, Vanderbilt, and University of Chicago. Anyone have any information about any of these 4 programs. Thank you.

Seen them all either for research or rotations. My experiences are rather old but still chat with people time to time.

Yale=>Vandy>U chicago>Baylor. Baylor is the most malignant of all.

Although the order depends on your expectations, All provide SOLID training. Forget about the "independence in the OR" BS people brag/b*tch about. I have seen residents operate independently in pretty big cases in all of these places (regularly).

 

[greatsaphenousv]

Seen them all either for research or rotations. My experiences are rather old but still chat with people time to time.

Yale=>Vandy>U chicago>Baylor. Baylor is the most malignant of all.

Although the order depends on your expectations, All provide SOLID training. Forget about the "independence in the OR" BS people brag/b*tch about. I have seen residents operate independently in pretty big cases in all of these places (regularly).

Thank you very much for your input on this.

 

[greatsaphenousv]

Seen them all either for research or rotations. My experiences are rather old but still chat with people time to time.

Yale=>Vandy>U chicago>Baylor. Baylor is the most malignant of all.

Although the order depends on your expectations, All provide SOLID training. Forget about the "independence in the OR" BS people brag/b*tch about. I have seen residents operate independently in pretty big cases in all of these places (regularly).

I actually will not want a place which boasts how their residents operate independently. thats exactly what I do not want lol. I want attendings who are patient and are willing to teach and understand that Im not from an American medical school, so my teaching/exposure/practical skills to surgery maybe a little behind as compared to my American counterparts, particularly in the beginning of residency.

 

[Winged Scapula]

I actually will not want a place which boasts how their residents operate independently. thats exactly what I do not want lol. I want attendings who are patient and are willing to teach and understand that Im not from an American medical school, so my teaching/exposure/practical skills to surgery maybe a little behind as compared to my American counterparts, particularly in the beginning of residency.

Please realize that interns are a mixed bag: there are some who have put in central lines and chest tubes by themselves and there are others who have never even seen one placed. The point is that there is a wide variety in experience and knowledge base, which generally evens out about half-way through residency. There are some weak interns who will be weak Chiefs, some superstars and most everyone else is in the middle of the pack.

By assuming that your future faculty will be extra patient and understanding, you are asking for special treatment which you will not get. Your program will simply say, "here is what we expect" and it is your job to obtain those skills and fund of knowledge to reach that goal. It may take more or less work than for your colleagues. You will be behind some of them when you start; you may be better at some things.

Please stop letting fear guide your decisions.

 

[Perhaps]

I actually will not want a place which boasts how their residents operate independently. thats exactly what I do not want lol. I want attendings who are patient and are willing to teach and understand that Im not from an American medical school, so my teaching/exposure/practical skills to surgery maybe a little behind as compared to my American counterparts, particularly in the beginning of residency.

thats very interesting, im quite opposite of that. im always being grabby in the OR and trying to do anything i can to get in on a case. my dream program would be where there werent 500 fellows and their moms scrubbing into every case, id like to first assist and then DO surgeries. i'd like to operate asap (teach me how to fish then let me go fish, dont teach me how to fish over and over again).

 

[mimelim]

thats very interesting, im quite opposite of that. im always being grabby in the OR and trying to do anything i can to get in on a case. my dream program would be where there werent 500 fellows and their moms scrubbing into every case, id like to first assist and then DO surgeries. i'd like to operate asap (teach me how to fish then let me go fish, dont teach me how to fish over and over again).

Aggressive, I like it 🙂.

 

[greatsaphenousv]

Lahey clinic? anyone have any input about that program