Videos of OMM

[Luck]

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I found these links in a thread in the osteopathic forum. They have several short videos showing different osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM) manuevers that DOs do. I was wondering what you pre-MDs think about it. You will need real player to run the videos.

http://www.acofp.org/saylak/omtforent/index.html
http://www.acofp.org/saylak/omtforent2/index.html

 

[OnMyWayThere]

Of course you have 0 posts...

 

[Spitting Camel]

I found these links in a thread in the osteopathic forum. They have several short videos showing different osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM) manuevers that DOs do. I was wondering what you pre-MDs think about it. You will need real player to run the videos.

http://www.acofp.org/saylak/omtforent/index.html
http://www.acofp.org/saylak/omtforent2/index.html

Is this DO porn? I'm not going to open it...

 

[Spitting Camel]

Of course you have 0 posts...

You are so mean!!! Some people post crap and have a higher post count... doesn't mean they are any good...

 

[Alexander99]

Looks like chiropractic stuff. I don't get it. Not to harp on DOs but couldn't anyone learn this stuff in a few weeks? Is this the only difference between DOs and MDs?

 

[Luck]

Looks like chiropractic stuff. I don't get it. Not to harp on DOs but couldn't anyone learn this stuff in a few weeks? Is this the only difference between DOs and MDs?

I'm not sure it would only take a couple of weeks to learn. It does look similar to what a chiropractor does and yes this is really the only difference between MDs and DOs. So the question is, why don't MDs learn it also in school since you would think it could only help the patient.

 

[Alexander99]

I'm not sure it would only take a couple of weeks to learn. It does look similar to what a chiropractor does and yes this is really the only difference between MDs and DOs. So the question is, why don't MDs learn it also in school since you would think it could only help the patient.

Why would it only take a couple of weeks to learn? Cause I'm a quick learner? Heh.

 

[Deuce 007 MD]

I'm not sure it would only take a couple of weeks to learn. It does look similar to what a chiropractor does and yes this is really the only difference between MDs and DOs. So the question is, why don't MDs learn it also in school since you would think it could only help the patient.

MDs can learn it if they want to, you can do a fellowship at some DO school (forgot which one) after your residency. MDs can also take accupuncture classes as well, and chinese medicine classes. There is this one professor at my school who teaches intergrative-east west-wholistic medicine. She is a family practice MD who does OMM, accupuncture and herbal meds. Practicing in beverly hills & bel air people eat that alternative medicine $hit up (notice the $).

 

[BackTalk]

I'm not sure it would only take a couple of weeks to learn. It does look similar to what a chiropractor does and yes this is really the only difference between MDs and DOs. So the question is, why don't MDs learn it also in school since you would think it could only help the patient.

Would you go to me if I took a couple of weeks to learn surgery or how to prescribe prescription medication? Manipulation is an art and takes more than a couple of weeks to master. Its great you see the value of offering this service to your patients. You have the right to incorporate it in your practices, just take the time to learn it properly so it will be effective.

 

[kaikai128]

Looks like chiropractic stuff. ?

I didn't look at the clips...but as for the "chiropractic stuff"...
Some of the techniques that DOs use, such as high velocity low amplitude, are similar (note similar but not same) as chiropractors. However, there are many more types of manipulation that schools teach that are nothing like chiropractics. One place I read that there are over 30 types of manipulation taught which can be placed into 5-6 broad categories.

If chiropractors go to school for 4 years (I think) to learn their techniques, I imagine that DOs need more than 2 weeks to learn their techniques and develop abilities.

 

[BackTalk]

If chiropractors go to school for 4 years (I think) to learn their techniques, I imagine that DOs need more than 2 weeks to learn their techniques and develop abilities.

8 academic years of education. (4 undergraduate and 4 graduate). Not all that time is learning chiropractic technique but close to 900+ hours is. I thought that DO had courses in manipulation or is it elective? Anyway, you are right that there are many techniques. High velocity low amplitude is a trademark of chiropractic. Learning the actual set-ups are easy. Your position and patient position and contacts are crucial. You have to know your anatomy and have a firm background in biomechanics. It takes time to get a knack for it. You have to know the proper vectors and line of drives. You have to understand the different joint types and how they move. You have to learn the muscle relationships as well. You have to learn how to palpate in order to check joint mobility. There is more to it than ?crankin backs?. Some people who go to chiropractic school never develop the skill to properly manipulate a joint. Some have to go back to school to learn something else. Without the proper skill patients won?t respond to care.

 

[Alexander99]

8 academic years of education. (4 undergraduate and 4 graduate). Not all that time is learning chiropractic technique but close to 900+ hours is.

I don't get it. You're counting the undergrad years for chiropractors as their training? Are they required to learn the techniques as undergrads? No one ever says MDs require 8 years (4 years undergrad + 4 years med school) + X years of residency. . .

 

[TripleDegree]

I don't get it. You're counting the undergrad years for chiropractors as their training? Are they required to learn the techniques as undergrads? No one ever says MDs require 8 years (4 years undergrad + 4 years med school) + X years of residency. . .

Don't get a false sense of superiority just because you're in MD school over DOs. A few weeks?? You have gotta be kidding.

 

[BackTalk]

My point was total education. When someone off the street asks you how long you went to school to be a MD or DO do you say 4 years? WTF are you smokin?

 

[tkim]

Keep it civil.

 

[NDESTRUKT]

yeah, seriously keep it civil

MD's can learn osteopathic manipulation if they want to. It might be a big plus to patients but some people might not think it's necessary - it's up to the individual doctor to decide their own beliefs. I was told by faculty at different DO schools that most DO's don't even do osteopathic manipulation (which they found tragic) after graduating, so let's not assume every DO uses what they were taught ok? Good =).

 

[patzan]

I checked out some of the clips and it seemed mostly like "assisted stretching." Nothing that a high school gym teacher couldn't do.

 

[NDESTRUKT]

I checked out some of the clips and it seemed mostly like "assisted stretching." Nothing that a high school gym teacher couldn't do.

LOL

come on, it's not THAT easy. i do believe it takes practice and skill and it probably does help in many cases.

still that was funny, maybe bordering inappropriate but funny.