vincent angina question

[gag]

Hi

Can anyone please tell me if vincent angina causes osteomyelitus or not

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[toothie]

Hi

Can anyone please tell me if vincent angina causes osteomyelitus or not

hi....
i dont think so.... maybe in very rare cases.. it may cause osteomyelitis.....

 

[rahmed]

hi....
i dont think so.... maybe in very rare cases.. it may cause osteomyelitis.....

Ischemia of bone on an immunocompromised background is central to the pathogenesis of Osteomyelitis. Although stress related epinephrine may result in localised ischemia, which predisposes the gingiva to Necrotising Ulcerative Gingivitis, any association with Osteomyelitis seems to be anecdotal. Being a predominantly soft tissue pathosis NUG has a propensity to extend through the mucosa of the face resulting in Cancrum Oris (noma), rather than causing Osteomyelitis.

This is my understanding.

Thanks,

rahmed

 

[gag]

hi guys......vincent angina is a fusospirochaetal infection of throat which may lead to middle ear infection and ootitis media can lead to osteomyelitis of condylar head.my question is .....can we connect vincent's angina with osteomyelitis this ways........gag

 

[rahmed]

hi guys......vincent angina is a fusospirochaetal infection of throat which may lead to middle ear infection and ootitis media can lead to osteomyelitis of condylar head.my question is .....can we connect vincent's angina with osteomyelitis this ways........gag

Hi gag

Following are the definitions of Vincent Angina & Vincent Infection. I think you are talking/asking about Vincent Infection which is the spread of Necrotising Ulcerative Gingivitis to Soft Palate and Oropharynx & it's correlation with Osteomyelitis? Certain medical texts use these terms interchangably.

I stand by my previous post and add that anecdotal correlation of NUG/Vincent Angina/Vincent Infection and Osteomyelitis is possible if condylar head is affected via middle ear infection (more precisely ischemia of condylar head), although I am yet to come across a definitive etiologic link between Vincent Infection and Otitis Media.

Vincent's angina : Definition(s) from the Unified Medical Language System ® | Search |


Vincent's angina or Acute necrotizing ulcerative gingivitis or Acute ulcerative gingivitis or ANUG or Plaut-Vincent angina or Trench mouth
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Necrotizing Ulcerative Gingivitis:
"An acute or chronic GINGIVITIS characterized by redness and swelling, NECROSIS extending from the interdental papillae along the gingival margins, PAIN; HEMORRHAGE, necrotic odor, and often a pseudomembrane. The condition may extend to the ORAL MUCOSA; TONGUE; PALATE; or PHARYNX. The etiology is somewhat unclear, but may involve a complex of FUSOBACTERIUM NUCLEATUM along with spirochetes BORRELIA or TREPONEMA."
Source: Medical Subject Headings, MSH2005_2004_10_12
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Necrotizing Ulcerative Gingivitis:
"VINCENT INFECTION where the lesions spread to the SOFT PALATE and OROPHARYNX."
Source: Medical Subject Headings, MSH2005_2004_10_12

Thanks,

rahmed

 

[gag]

hi! thanks a lot for replying back .but i tell u what my doubt is........in case u have Crranza Newman 8th edition.......Plz read pg 253.......bec thats what confused me ab the whole thing........it will be so nice of u to help me a little more in this querry........thanks .gag

 

[rahmed]

hi! thanks a lot for replying back .but i tell u what my doubt is........in case u have Crranza Newman 8th edition.......Plz read pg 253.......bec thats what confused me ab the whole thing........it will be so nice of u to help me a little more in this querry........thanks .gag

Well I don't have Carranza's Clinical Periodontology by Michael G. Newman (8th edition), but if you could enter your query as a quote from the text (only if it is couple of sentences!) then I can try to help.

Thanks,

rahmed

 

[gag]

hi
it says.VINCENT'S ANGINA.......is aspirocheatal infection of the oropharynx and throat as distinguished fron ANUG,which affe3cts the marginal gingiva.In Vincent's angina there is a painful membranous ulceration of the throat,with edema and hyperaemic patches breaking down to form ulcers covered with pseudomembaranous material.this process may extend to larynx and middle ear.........
hope u can help me out.thanks.gag

 

[rahmed]

hi
it says.VINCENT'S ANGINA.......is aspirocheatal infection of the oropharynx and throat as distinguished fron ANUG,which affe3cts the marginal gingiva.In Vincent's angina there is a painful membranous ulceration of the throat,with edema and hyperaemic patches breaking down to form ulcers covered with pseudomembaranous material.this process may extend to larynx and middle ear.........
hope u can help me out.thanks.gag

OK I read it now. Although it is theoretically possible (and also the famous saying never say never) for a Vincent's Infection spreading to middle year can have a propensity to spread to TM Jt and thus may result in ischemic necrosis of condylar head, I still think Osteomyelitis is unlikely in an immunocompetent host.

Reasons:

1) Inability of causative organisms (Fuso-Spirochetes) to break the ground substance (staph has a greater propensity to do this)

2) Age group - Middle year infection leading osteomyelitis of condylar head is common in early life (around say 3 yrs of age) whereas NUG is common in 15-35 yrs age gr.

I tried to expalin as much as I can.

BTW did you actually come across this question somewhere?

Thanks,

rahmed

 

[gag]

Thanks a lot for all this help.i came across this question in one of the canadian exam releases and its repeated a no. of timesand i was a little cofused ab it and i wanted to be sure.
regards..gag