WAMC, sGPA 3.70 cGPA 3.73 MCAT 513 (am i cooked)

[anonlymouse]

1. cGPA 3.73 (projected) and sGPA 3.70 (projected)
2. MCAT 513 (cp 129 cars 126 bb 129 ps 129)
3. CA resident, attending one of the UCs
4. SE asian
5. Clinical experience (volunteer and non-volunteer)

• 500 hrs hospital volunteering
• 3400 hrs grandparents caretaking

1. Research experience and productivity

• 50 hrs biophysics wetlab research on larval movement
• 300 hrs in clinical psych stress lab
• 50 hrs wound care, publication + poster presentation in national symposium
• 50 hrs education literature review, hoping for pub

1. Shadowing experience and specialties represented

• 120 hrs physician shadowing
  • wound care surgeon, pcp, anethesiologist, rn, pediatrician, pa

1. Non-clinical volunteering

• 20 hrs after school program at womens shelter
• 20 hrs making hats for cancer patients

1. Other extracurricular activities (including athletics, military service, gap year activities, leadership, teaching, etc)

• 1500 hrs in family souvenier business, earned own tuition money
• 100 hrs undergrad ta for various physics classes and labs
• 250 educational director promoting higher education for underrepresented groups, held workshops and planned college visits
• 50 hrs public health e-board, raised $1k through grants for study
• 420 hrs private tutoring, for paying for school
• 140 hrs small culture club president
• 160 hrs neuroscience research nonprofit leader, recruited 5k+ participants, led research/advocacy workshops, did outreach, applied for $10k in school/federal grants
• 100 hrs of various mentorship for other undergrads (first gen or premed)

1. Relevant honors or awards

• deans list for a few terms

1. Anything else not listed you think might be important

• bad start in college bc of personal family stuff, trying to keep upward trend in grades

md school list

1. ucla
2. drew
3. ucsd
4. ucd
5. ucr
6. loma linda
7. eastern virginia
8. george washington
9. wright state
10. rush university
11. albany medical college
12. texas christian university
13. california northstate
14. california university of science and medicine
15. central michigan university
16. rosalind franklin
17. quinnipiac university

do school list

1. western
2. touro (ca)
3. california health sciences university
4. university of the incarnate word
5. kansas state
6. michigan state

i'd be applying right after 3 yrs of undergrad so i'll have 1 gap year during my application cycle from '24-'25. i realize that my stats aren't the higheset, and reading all these sdn posts and going on reddit make it more apparent. so please let me know, am i cooked?

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[Mr.Smile12]

1. cGPA 3.73 (projected) and sGPA 3.70 (projected)
2. MCAT 513 (cp 129 cars 126 bb 129 ps 129)
3. CA resident, attending one of the UCs
4. SE asian
5. Clinical experience (volunteer and non-volunteer)

• 500 hrs hospital volunteering
• 3400 hrs grandparents caretaking

1. Research experience and productivity

• 50 hrs biophysics wetlab research on larval movement
• 300 hrs in clinical psych stress lab
• 50 hrs wound care, publication + poster presentation in national symposium
• 50 hrs education literature review, hoping for pub

1. Shadowing experience and specialties represented

• 120 hrs physician shadowing
  • wound care surgeon, pcp, anethesiologist, rn, pediatrician, pa

1. Non-clinical volunteering

• 20 hrs after school program at womens shelter
• 20 hrs making hats for cancer patients

1. Other extracurricular activities (including athletics, military service, gap year activities, leadership, teaching, etc)

• 1500 hrs in family souvenier business, earned own tuition money
• 100 hrs undergrad ta for various physics classes and labs
• 250 educational director promoting higher education for underrepresented groups, held workshops and planned college visits
• 50 hrs public health e-board, raised $1k through grants for study
• 420 hrs private tutoring, for paying for school
• 140 hrs small culture club president
• 160 hrs neuroscience research nonprofit leader, recruited 5k+ participants, led research/advocacy workshops, did outreach, applied for $10k in school/federal grants
• 100 hrs of various mentorship for other undergrads (first gen or premed)

1. Relevant honors or awards

• deans list for a few terms

1. Anything else not listed you think might be important

• bad start in college bc of personal family stuff, trying to keep upward trend in grades

md school list

1. ucla
2. drew
3. ucsd
4. ucd
5. ucr
6. loma linda
7. eastern virginia
8. george washington
9. wright state
10. rush university
11. albany medical college
12. texas christian university
13. california northstate
14. california university of science and medicine
15. central michigan university
16. rosalind franklin
17. quinnipiac university

do school list

1. western
2. touro (ca)
3. california health sciences university
4. university of the incarnate word
5. kansas state
6. michigan state

i'd be applying right after 3 yrs of undergrad so i'll have 1 gap year during my application cycle from '24-'25. i realize that my stats aren't the higheset, and reading all these sdn posts and going on reddit make it more apparent. so please let me know, am i cooked?

Cooked for what? If you've read all these posts, you have a good idea where you stand, so "cooked" doesn't seem to be appropriate. If you are saying "cooked" as in if you are ready to apply, then no. If you mean "cooked" as in "you have no chance," I say no also.

You need more non-clinical volunteering. You are supposed to take care of family, so 3400 hours doesn't count for work/activities. You need service orientation activities that get you off-campus and away from your comfort zone. Your shadowing is more than sufficient, but I don't know what you are doing in the hospital whether it is patient-care-oriented or not.

I don't know your rationale for your school list aside from likely stats matching. Why EVMS, Albany, TCU, CMU, Wright State, Quinnipiac? Rush needs tons more community service hours than you have. Among DO schools, UIW, KCU?

 

[anonlymouse]

Cooked for what?

As in getting into medical school with my lower stats and my low amount of nonclinical volunteering hours.

Your shadowing is more than sufficient, but I don't know what you are doing in the hospital whether it is patient-care-oriented or not.

I would say 300 of those hours were simply flipping beds, doing deliveries, restocking carts, or doing audits on other volunteers. But the remaining 150 were observing procedures, assisting patients with dressing/feeding/using the bathroom, and providing patient education for incoming surgery patients. Should I count only 150 as clinical hours?

I don't know your rationale for your school list aside from likely stats matching. Why EVMS, Albany, TCU, CMU, Wright State, Quinnipiac? Rush needs tons more community service hours than you have. Among DO schools, UIW, KCU?

Mostly stats matching. I didn't know about Rush requiring more community service hours. How can I tell which schools value which different aspects of the applications? I want to attend schools with an emphasis on primary care. If that's the case, are there other schools I should consider? And for DO schools, I wanted to widen my options in case my instate DO schools reject me.

Thank you for the constructive feedback! Really appreciate the thought you put into my thread and others!

 

[Mr.Smile12]

[Cooked] As in getting into medical school with my lower stats and my low amount of nonclinical volunteering hours.

Meaning you're a shoo-in or you are ineligible? It's still not clear to me.

If you have a fixed mindset, you are cooked/finito/not going to succeed because you have resigned yourself to failure. If you have a growth mindset, you know what you have to work on and just need to fix it. You need 150 hours of service orientation activities to avoid getting screened out. You don't have that. Do work in food distribution, transportation services, shelter volunteering, job/tax preparation, or housing rehabilitation.

Should I count only 150 as clinical hours [instead of 300]?

How would you describe your hospital volunteering to your prehealth advisors? What do they suggest? I think you should make it clear what you did and how much of your time was patient-facing.

How can I tell which schools value which different aspects of the applications? I want to attend schools with an emphasis on primary care.

You need to do your homework. Buy or borrow an MSAR subscription. Go to recruitment events. Talk to students.

 

[Faha]

You should accumulate 150+ hours of non clinical volunteering before you submit your application. Otherwise, you could be screened out at some schools. I suggest these schools with your stats:
Vermont
Quinnipiac
Albany
New York Medical College
Hackensack
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Penn State
George Washington
Virginia Commonwealth
Eastern Virginia
Wake Forest
NOVA MD
Belmont
TCU
St. Louis
Rosalind Franklin
Medical College Wisconsin
Western Michigan
Oakland Beaumont
Loma Linda (if you fit their mission)
California University
Kaiser
UC Davis
UC Irvine
UC Riverside (only if you are from that region)
Alice Walton (when it opens)
For DO schools I suggest these:
WESTERN
TUCOM-CA
AZCOM
TUNCOM
ATSU-KCOM
KCU-COM
UIWSOM
DMU-COM
ACOM
CUSOM
PCOM
NYITCOM
Touro-NY
MU-COM