Warning vs institutional action?

[lm1106]

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Freshman year of college, I received a written warning for not reporting another student who cheated on a small homework assignment. I was wondering if a written warning is considered an institutional action and if it must be reported on the AMCAS application.

 

[lm1106]

Depends who the warning is from and process it followed. It most likely isnt an IA but you must ask your school if it constitutes a formal action by the institution

It’s a warning from the disciplinary office and I think it’s even on my disciplinary record since it’s a “written” warning. I guess it seems like an IA, but at the same time it’s a “warning” so I wasn’t sure

 

[workaholic181]

This is almost definitely not an IA. You can call your office of student conduct and ask them to be 100% positive before applying.

 

[mwsapphire]

I'd report it, but I wouldn't stress about it. If you didn't help them cheat it's not your responsibility to snitch on every cheating student, especially since you were a shy little freshman. It's not like they're gonna fault you for this.

 

[Doc_Ock]

No. It's not worth reporting.

 

[LizzyM]

No. It's not worth reporting.

Would you say the same if you knew that the punishment for falsification of the AMCAS application is expulsion from medical school? I'd say it is worth reporting. It wouldn't be likely to derail an applicant and it is good to be able to sleep at night.

 

[Goro]

Freshman year of college, I received a written warning for not reporting another student who cheated on a small homework assignment. I was wondering if a written warning is considered an institutional action and if it must be reported on the AMCAS application.

This is a very trivial IA. Just check the box and own the transgression, and you'll be fine.

SDNers are strongly advised not to heed the advice of pre-meds or medical students who have zero knowledge of admissions processes and who substitute opinions for experiences.

 

[LM75]

Let it slide. It wasn't you cheating right?

Those adcoms will not scrutinize an application like that. They will tell you otherwise but they just don't have the time to analyze your application with a magnifying glass.

Again, you didn't cheat so no big deal. What someone else does it not your problem. Send in your app and crack open a couple of cold ones and call it a day.

 

[lm1106]

Thank you so much for your help everyone!!

(p.s. My plan is just to report it and hope admissions people who review my app are as forgiving you guys on SDN!)

 

[DokterMom]

Let it slide. It wasn't you cheating right?

Those adcoms will not scrutinize an application like that. They will tell you otherwise but they just don't have the time to analyze your application with a magnifying glass.

Again, you didn't cheat so no big deal. What someone else does it not your problem. Send in your app and crack open a couple of cold ones and call it a day.

Very bad advice. "Letting it slide" was the decision that resulted in the probable-IA. Not reporting it because it wasn't "serious" would demonstrate pretty clearly that the OP hadn't learned a thing from his mistake.

 

[LM75]

Very bad advice. "Letting it slide" was the decision that resulted in the probable-IA. Not reporting it because it wasn't "serious" would demonstrate pretty clearly that the OP hadn't learned a thing from his mistake.

Nobody is perfect in this world of ours...not even your best doctors.

Doctors turn a blind eye to so many things every single day. We shouldn't be teaching hypocrisy to future students, rather CYA.

 

[958587]

Contacted AMCAS about a similar situation. They said if it is not on your transcript, don't put it down. Contact AMCAS for your situation though.

 

[LM75]

Contacted AMCAS about a similar situation. They said if it is not on your transcript, don't put it down. Contact AMCAS for your situation though.

The people here will still tell this person to list it lol.

 

[Goro]

*sigh* There are reasons why one shouldn't listen to pre-meds about this process at time, especially those heading to the Carib. They can often be so wrong it's outright malicious.

Here's what AMCAS itself has to say:

• Institutional Action: Medical schools need to know if you were ever the recipient of any institutional action resulting from unacceptable academic performance or a conduct violation, even if such action did not interrupt your enrollment, require you to withdraw, or does not appear on your official transcripts due to institutional policy or personal petition.

https://students-residents.aamc.org...cle/sections-1-3-your-background-information/

 

[LM75]

*sigh* There are reasons why one shouldn't listen to pre-meds about this process at time, especially those heading to the Carib. They can often be so wrong it's outright malicious.

Here's what AMCAS itself has to say:

• Institutional Action: Medical schools need to know if you were ever the recipient of any institutional action resulting from unacceptable academic performance or a conduct violation, even if such action did not interrupt your enrollment, require you to withdraw, or does not appear on your official transcripts due to institutional policy or personal petition.

https://students-residents.aamc.org...cle/sections-1-3-your-background-information/

Annnnnd you're going to find out how exactly?

 

[LM75]

This is a very trivial IA. Just check the box and own the transgression, and you'll be fine.

SDNers are strongly advised not to heed the advice of pre-meds or medical students who have zero knowledge of admissions processes and who substitute opinions for experiences.

This made me chuckle. This is the equivalent of when the government raises the terror threat level to code orange.

 

[LizzyM]

Annnnnd you're going to find out how exactly?

A LOR might say that the applicant has matured a great deal since.....

 

[Goro]

A LOR might say that the applicant has matured a great deal since.....

On multiple occasions, I have seen this exact scenario, and we reject these people for being less than forthcoming.

We know from hard experience that dishonest doctors start out as dishonest students. My clinical colleagues take professionalism very seriously.

So beware of pre-meds who have zero experience with med school admissions who pooh-pooh the need for honesty.

 

[LM75]

A LOR might say that the applicant has matured a great deal since.....

Yes, but that's assuming the applicant has half a brain.

 

[LM75]

On multiple occasions, I have seen this exact scenario, and we reject these people for being less than forthcoming.

We know from hard experience that dishonest doctors start out as dishonest students. My clinical colleagues take professionalism very seriously.

So beware of pre-meds who have zero experience with med school admissions who pooh-pooh the need for honesty.

Oh brother.