MD & DO What are my chances (sGPA 3.2 or sGPA 3.9) and some advice...?

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I would actually prefer D.O., the only thing I'm concerned about is that there is only one program in my state (MSU) and out of state is so much higher in tuition. But here's my background, I'll apologize beforehand as it might be a bit of a novel:





Epic fail first couple years of college due to severe clinical depression (ironically, my major was psychology and I had wanted to be a forensic psychiatrist). After a year and a half, I finally got myself together by coming home to a community college. Worked on getting back to normal and my drive back. I was an excellent high school student who loved to learn, but I had to really work to get that back after my downward spiral.

My cGPA for the two places was 2.09, sGPA 2.25.

At that point, I decided I was ready to pursue a degree again, as my drive and determination had returned with a vengeance. I transferred to a private college and spent 4 years earning a Bachelor of Science in Radiation Therapy. I graduated with a cGPA of 3.89.

According to the spreadsheet, my cGPA for the private college was 3.94, sGPA 3.9.

So, for an M.D. program, my cGPA is 3.2, my sGPA is 3.2; it would stay within .05 if I retook certain classes, just because so many classes are already calculated into it (meaning each individual class has less impact, of course). D.O. - if I understand this correctly, and they would only look at my grades from the college I received my degree from - would be the cGPA 3.94 and sGPA 3.9.

I haven't yet taken the MCAT, but my practice tests are ranging from 34-36 (depending on whether they're official practice tests or Kaplan). I have it scheduled for late July, and planned on having my applications in by mid-August. However, after all the lurking I've done on this site the last couple days, it sounds as though I should move both of those deadlines to early June? Just because of my stats, it seems like getting it all in as quickly as possible would be even more important... I was just hoping to have more time to prepare, but it seems as though I can't afford that?

I have also read that having a 'hardship' to help explain academic failure can help your application (particularly for M.D. in this case), and also a steep upward trend for GPA (which I clearly have, and maintained throughout earning my degree).

I haven't had much volunteering, I started this month and planned on having about 150 hours by June for tutoring elementary kids/watching toddlers at a shelter for those working toward their GED, and working at the food bank. No research experience. Thanks to my degree, I have over 1400 hours of clinical experience as a radiation therapist. I took and passed the ARRT boards last July, received an 87, and am currently a registered radiation therapist.





Obviously, though, my hope is to continue on to become a radiation oncologist (and I would hope I know what that entails by now, ha). What are my chances?

EDIT: Oh! And also, I have classes on my private college transcript that were technically math/science/biology classes, but they are labeled RDT rather than BIO, SCI, MTH, etc, just because they were program-specific. I did not include them in the current calculations for my GPAs. Would an admissions committee?
 
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"D.O. - if I understand this correctly, and they would only look at my grades from the college I received my degree from - would be the cGPA 3.94 and sGPA 3.9."

That is wrong. DO, jsut as MD will look at every course ever taken!! The only difference is DO has a grade repeat policy. They only use the most recent grade(better or worse) for courses you took multiple times.
 
Thank you for clarifying that, I appreciate it. The only thing that changes regarding my post then, however, is whether the classes I re-took at the private college will be the grades that will have the most impact? Obviously the failure classes at the previous college did not affect my GPA at the private college, and I excelled at them when I re-took them. I just didn't re-take them at the same college, so they didn't replace the ones on my transcript.
 
Further clarification: AACOMAS, the DO application service, will require an original transcript from every school you attended that gives college credit. They will recalculate your GPA. Their grade forgiveness policy doesn't require that a retake occur at the same school, it just requires that the course credit be the same or greater and that the course content be similar. If this is true, then the early grade(s) will be ignored in the final application GPA calculations for each class you took more than once, regardless of how the college handled the issue.

To calculate an accurate AACOMAS GPA, see:
DO GPA calculation spreadsheet: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=450050
Newer modified version: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=839864
 
Yes, that would be the spreadsheet I used to calculate the two GPAs I provided above! My 'D.O.' GPA (3.9) would be the one that does not include the earlier classes, of course. I worded it poorly in my post, but that is essentially what I meant, thank you! 🙂

I hope I didn't come across as being ignorant regarding the application processes as a whole, I'm quite familiar with them and very serious about my goal! Just wondered what my chances are and if anyone had any particular advice for me with my situation?
 
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Obviously, though, my hope is to continue on to become a radiation oncologist (and I would hope I know what that entails by now, ha). What are my chances?
You might be interested in viewing thiese statistics (clicking the tiny grids makes them bigger): http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/us-md-vs-us-do-vs-aua-ross-and-sgu.888658/#post-12109604

As you can see, historic chances of matching into radiation oncology from osteopathic med schools were problematic. Your best chance of achieving your goal would seem to be to get into an MD school, since we can't predict this far ahead what the upshot will be of the DO and MD matching services merge. Toward that end, your best shot for MD consideration would be a high MCAT score and terrific ECs, with supportive LORs, and strong interview skills.
 
Thank you so much! I REALLY appreciate you using your time to respond 🙂
 
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