What are my chances? UPDATED STATS

[keimeko]

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I posted a while ago and I think I have an updated snapshot
I am 22F, Vietnamese from Florida and I am graduating this year at the same time with both:

Doctor of Pharmacy in 2025
BS in Zoology in 2025
(I had dual enrollment accelerated study so I started college at Palm Beach State College at 16 and finished at 18 with my AA)

Under grad GPA: 3.92
Science Gpa: 3.89? (Haven’t double checked but close)
PharmD Gpa: 3.0 🙁
(I still have to take physics 2 + lab) but everything else is done.

My vet hours
Nonprofit vet clinic clinic for dogs/cats: ~100 hours
Pharmacist advisor for medication management for dogs/cats: ~120 hours

Animal experience
Parrot and freshwater fish breeder: ~2000 hours
(I worked at this store for a few years but it shut down in Covid)
Equine management and care: ~50 hours
Dog washer for grand opening: ~18 hours
Service dog /dog trainer: 320 hours
Dog sitter: 300 hours

Human volunteer:
Covid Immunizer during 2020: 80 hours
City beautification painter: ~40 hours
Art Camp Counselor: 50 hours
anti animal cruelty volunteer paint: 16 hours
Painting homes for low income people: 40 hours
Children mural painter: 24 hours
Children’s hospice chef: 30 hours

Employment:
Starbucks: 1640 hours
CVS: 900 hours
UF Shands (hospital) : 700 hours

Extracurricular hours
Walgreens Pharmacy intern: 160 hours
Bethesda (hospital): 160 hours
Baptist hospital: 240 hours
Hospital intern in Japan: 200 hours
Pharmacy mentorship for underrepresented students: 100 hours
Fundraiser Chair for Asian Pharmacists: 200 hours
Fundraiser chair for American Pharmacists Association: 200 hours

Research: 60 hours non inferior trials about the effects of different drugs on C. Diff. experimentation on mice

Just got accepted to a paid position at a research lab about meta analysis of songbirds and their adaptation to natural disasters.

Awards:
President list for associates of Arts 2x
Sumna Cum Laude for associates
Bright Futures Florida

Letter of Recs:
PharmD academic advisor whose also my professor
Veterinarian from the non profit clinic
Veterinarian from one of my courses in school about zoonotic diseases and how they transfer to humans
Pharmacist Manager

What I’m applying to:
TOP CHOICE T.T the Alaska/Fort Collins program at CSU
Oregon State
Washington State
University of Florida (in state and I’m already there for my PharmD)
Cornell (long shot)


If anyone hasn’t seen my post from a long time ago, I know I’m redoing a whole new professional degree. I never wanted to be a pharmacist but I’m the first American born child in my immigrant family and also the only child. My father has epilepsy and his dying wish for me was to be a pharmacist. I have argued with them a lot about this during high school, but it exacerbates his seizures a lot and would often end in the hospital. In the end I am doing pharmacy school so I can do what they want and then be free with my life without them complaining.

 

[JaynaAli]

I reread your original thread and I think all the advice everyone gave back on your previous post still applies. You need more vet hours. Significantly more. Ideally in a variety of settings. All your other experiences are neat but those won’t make up for a lack of vet experience hours, especially for a “career/grad school changer.” You need to prove you know what you’re really getting into this time. The schools on your list might not have posted minimums, but they’re still expecting a certain level of experience and you’re competing against other qualified applicants with thousands of hours.

Also, I’m not fully convinced your 120 hours of “Pharmacist advisor for medication management for dogs/cats” even counts as vet experience. Was it supervised by a veterinarian? I may be wrong but I think VMCAS defines vet experience as being working directly with a veterinarian? It is probably in a grey zone of being vet med related but not exactly what places are thinking of when talking about vet experience. Edit: Glad to hear it was supervised by a vet!

I don’t say all this to dissuade you, but to be competitive you need more experience. Get that, write strong statements, and be ready to answer “why vet med and why now” in an interview and you probably have a decent chance. But I don’t think you’re ready to apply yet.

 

[keimeko]

I reread your original thread and I think all the advice everyone gave back on your previous post still applies. You need more vet hours. Significantly more. Ideally in a variety of settings. All your other experiences are neat but those won’t make up for a lack of vet experience hours, especially for a “career/grad school changer.” You need to prove you know what you’re really getting into this time. The schools on your list might not have posted minimums, but they’re still expecting a certain level of experience and you’re competing against other qualified applicants with thousands of hours.

Also, I’m not fully convinced your 120 hours of “Pharmacist advisor for medication management for dogs/cats” even counts as vet experience. Was it supervised by a veterinarian? I may be wrong but I think VMCAS defines vet experience as being working directly with a veterinarian? It is probably in a grey zone of being vet med related but not exactly what places are thinking of when talking about vet experience.

I don’t say all this to dissuade you, but to be competitive you need more experience. Get that, write strong statements, and be ready to answer “why vet med and why now” in an interview and you probably have a decent chance. But I don’t think you’re ready to apply yet.

Yes I did it with a veterinarian! I applied for a vet pharmacy program where we followed a few underrepresented families throughout the year and adjusted their cats/dogs medications by titrating up or down or just overall changing drugs etc. its all non profit because most of them were homeless. it was not really a procedural thing.

I wrote my statement about why I changed professions , bridging the healthcare collaboration and streamlining communication between pharmacists and vets (everyone knows about how annoying it is when pharmacists send back a prescription says what’s the NPI) how I can contribute my pharmacological knowledge to the veterinary field etc. I also wrote about my time with the nonprofits and working with underrepresented populations because overall that’s what I want to do in rural health.

I guess if I don’t get in this cycle, I’ll get more hours once I get off my clinical rotations. Meanwhile I’m stuck on my pharmacy rotations till next May everyday from morning to eveningish 🙁