What Diet are you on? Paleo, Atkins, High Fructose?

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Hey Gals/Guys,


Anybody on a special diet?


I've been on a 80% Paleo Diet for about a month now and can really see and feel the changes of the diet switch.

Please share yours here! I would love to hear about what you do, even if it's a coffee and donuts ordeal (hehe). I've been there before, and weaning yourself off is a process.
 
Hey Gals/Guys,


Anybody on a special diet?


I've been on a 80% Paleo Diet for about a month now and can really see and feel the changes of the diet switch.

Please share yours here! I would love to hear about what you do, even if it's a coffee and donuts ordeal (hehe). I've been there before, and weaning yourself off is a process.

if there is one thing I learned from surgery its that it is in fact possible to survive for a couple months on granola bars and multivitamins, I think it even has some promise as a crash diet fad because I didnt gain the 5-10lbs back
 
I'm gluten-free vegetarian, except for fish oil. I do eat a bit of dairy and eggs, but only if they're in something else I'm eating.

Probably get most of my calories from nuts (almonds, peanut butter). Eat frozen blueberries about once a day. Have gluten-free oats and unsweetened soymilk. I can always find something to eat. At a kebob restaurant, I'll get grilled vegetables on top of a salad with a tzatziki dressing. At Chipotle, I get the vegetarian bowl. At home for dinners, it's a lot of vegetables and starches, too. Been vegetarian my whole life, gluten-free when I found out I had celiac a few years ago. Have thought of eating meat but can't bring myself to do it (started out with morality thing around age 2 (seriously), but over enough time, it's just too gross).

I am proof you can be vegetarian, eat "healthy," and be pre-diabetic and obese. My LDL is 134, which is pretty high for a 30-year-old vegetarian, I think. A1C got as high as 6.1, but I got it back down to 5.4 with cinnamon water extract and dieting, though have not lost weight. Weight is 237 lbs, 6'3"—all in the stomach, which probably also has to do with my total testosterone being at 130 for at least the last few years---the only years it's been tested (my next medical mystery to solve) and also taking Seroquel, which gives you a horrible case of the hungries and also probably is related to my higher blood sugar and cholesterol.

My most common day-time snack is frozen wild blueberries sprinkled with a little bit of honey-nut cheerios (they're close enough to gluten-free), unsweetened soymilk, and eaten with a big spoonful of peanut butter. It's very good, but definitely higher calorie from the peanut butter.
 
I'm gluten-free vegetarian, except for fish oil. I do eat a bit of dairy and eggs, but only if they're in something else I'm eating.

Probably get most of my calories from nuts (almonds, peanut butter). Eat frozen blueberries about once a day. Have gluten-free oats and unsweetened soymilk. I can always find something to eat. At a kebob restaurant, I'll get grilled vegetables on top of a salad with a tzatziki dressing. At Chipotle, I get the vegetarian bowl. At home for dinners, it's a lot of vegetables and starches, too. Been vegetarian my whole life, gluten-free when I found out I had celiac a few years ago. Have thought of eating meat but can't bring myself to do it (started out with morality thing around age 2 (seriously), but over enough time, it's just too gross).

I am proof you can be vegetarian, eat "healthy," and be pre-diabetic and obese. My LDL is 134, which is pretty high for a 30-year-old vegetarian, I think. A1C got as high as 6.1, but I got it back down to 5.4 with cinnamon water extract and dieting, though have not lost weight. Weight is 237 lbs, 6'3"—all in the stomach, which probably also has to do with my total testosterone being at 130 for at least the last few years---the only years it's been tested (my next medical mystery to solve) and also taking Seroquel, which gives you a horrible case of the hungries and also probably is related to my higher blood sugar and cholesterol.

My most common day-time snack is frozen wild blueberries sprinkled with a little bit of honey-nut cheerios (they're close enough to gluten-free), unsweetened soymilk, and eaten with a big spoonful of peanut butter. It's very good, but definitely higher calorie from the peanut butter.



Well it sounds like, regardless, you've done quite a bit to tidy up your diet. I wonder if you may actually be in dire need of meat based on your history. You aren't gonna get decent testosterone levels on yogurt and berries. I suspect your body has shut off the mechanism of comfort (ie the joys of sex and other pleasurable things) in exchange for survival mode (make steroids and other hormones I'll need to stay alive). I'm no endocrinologist but it sounds like your diet is just not sufficient to make a 6'3'' 250+lbs male. A young 5'6'' frail woman trying to keep her figure might do well on it though.

More protein dude, More complete protein somehow.
 
I enjoy chimichangas, Indian food, good pastas, and now that I live closer to a Chick Fil-A, I enjoy more Chick Fil-A.

Edit: why is that emoticon above my post?
 
Well it sounds like, regardless, you've done quite a bit to tidy up your diet. I wonder if you may actually be in dire need of meat based on your history. You aren't gonna get decent testosterone levels on yogurt and berries. I suspect your body has shut off the mechanism of comfort (ie the joys of sex and other pleasurable things) in exchange for survival mode (make steroids and other hormones I'll need to stay alive). I'm no endocrinologist but it sounds like your diet is just not sufficient to make a 6'3'' 250+lbs male. A young 5'6'' frail woman trying to keep her figure might do well on it though.

More protein dude, More complete protein somehow.

If I could swallow meat in pill form, I might . . . given that my ethics are out the door with fish oil. It's easier to just swallow something than be faced with it bite after bite. I'm going to try lowering my soy intake and eliminating triclosan (in soaps) to see if that helps a bit. Mine is so low that I doubt it's just related to environmental/diet factors. Already had a lot of bloodwork, which points to a pituitary issue. Trying to get insurance to pay for an MRI to look at my sella. But, yeah, I have never claimed not eating meat is healthy. In fact, I've read part of Mark Sisson's book on the paleo diet and find myself agreeing with a lot of it. I even read his article on how to adjust back from vegetarianism to eating meat. For a vegetarian, I'd say I eat fairly healthy—the quantities are probably just too high. I'll keep the meat thing in mind, though. My grandmother was a psychiatrist and was always trying to get me to eat meat. She said I could eat it and it would be on her conscience. I can't really claim anymore it's entirely out of moral reasons; though, I do feel guilty even with the fish oil when I think about it. But I honestly don't think about it much.
 
I enjoy chimichangas, Indian food, good pastas, and now that I live closer to a Chick Fil-A, I enjoy more Chick Fil-A.

Edit: why is that emoticon above my post?

My parents have a rule that they can only eat Chik Fil-A if it's free. They seem to get coupons for free food there a lot somehow.
 
if there is one thing I learned from surgery its that it is in fact possible to survive for a couple months on granola bars and multivitamins, I think it even has some promise as a crash diet fad because I didnt gain the 5-10lbs back

:laugh: Yep! I remember those days. Absolutely disgusted with having to choose between sleeping and eating. Sleep would win most times. I'd wake up, 5:00 am with the most painful hunger pains I've ever experienced. #JustSayNotoSurgery
 
Mine is so low that I doubt it's just related to environmental/diet factors. Already had a lot of bloodwork, which points to a pituitary issue. .



Dude....that's what happens after chronic undersupply of nutrients needed to build things. The pituitary gland is smart and merely reacting to its inputs. Remember, when the pituitary begins to crumble, it takes out the sex hormones first (don't need em for survival). Next TSH, and lastly vasopressin (to keep your blood pressure going). Your pituitary is probably running its own code due to chronic nutrient insufficiency.

Time to go out and chase down a mouth watering proteinaceous animal.
 
You know, I have a graduate degree in evolution, and I really can't find a whole ton of evidence that Paleo humans were Paleo dieters. You know, what with the whole basically eating and grazing constantly throughout the day on veggies and fruits. The idea of meat/fat one meal a day is pretty solid but 'Paleo' is a bit too extremist for me.

As far as vegan/vegetarian. Vegan weirds me out, can't wrap my head around out. Lacto-ovo-vegetarianism is quite solid though.

Phiny is nailing a lot of things on the head. After years and years and years on a diet, your body will look very different and will act very different. Your bloodwork is borderline useless I'd argue.

And the LDL is a classic example of starvation. Remember, holocaust survivors looked anorexic, but their bloodwork looked like an Oklahoman's (Dr. Bagel knows what I'm talking about lol).

The testosterone, well that's probably a couple of factors. By weight a sheep's liver is about 3x the size of a human's. This is because a sheep ingests a lot of phyto-estrogens (sometimes called isoflavones in soy). They act as birth control pills for female sheep and chemical castration for males. One of the more classic examples of an evolutionary 'arms race'. So anyway, soy a long with a lot of other plants produces these. How active these are in the human body and how relevant they are is up for debate. The soy lovers typically say "oh yeah? well shut up." They are currently claiming no drop in testosterone and that isoflavones have no estrogenic activity in the human body.

But there remains study after study showing introduction of soy to the diet and a drop in testosterone levels from at this point tens of labs and many many different researchers. And believe it or not, there is a lot of Big Ag money in soy (it's a nitrogen fixer-so you need it or something like it in crop rotation, and if they can get a profit while 'doing maintenance' even better). The health benefits of soy seem to require pretty small amounts of the stuff and Asians actually don't eat all that much of it.

FInally, cholesterol. There is such a thing as not enough. I wonder if you're there.

Oh, as a personal trainer there are usually a couple of reasons I see people not be able to lose weight despite a real effort:

1) They do the wrong exercise. They're engaged in low intensity work like walking, which can't overcome the compensatory reduction in BMR from their diet. Or they're doing steady-state 'cardio'. Which is counterproductive for all sorts of reasons. Great (within reason) for health, but just not that effective other than heart benefits. 'Cardio' will actually depress your metabolism for the hours you're not in the gym; at best it's neutral. Weight-lifting, sprints, interval training, explosive activity, even some of the Zumba dances on the other hand INCREASE your metabolism even outside of the gym. The simple analogy is that cardio trains your body to be a Prius. Using as little as possible to work as efficiently as possible. Explosive exercise trains your body to be a Camaro, using a ****-ton of gas to make a lot of smoke and noise.

2) They aren't eating enough of the right things. The human body is the culmination of 600million years of evolution and has one focus: Not Dying. This is what your body cares about, not your waistline, not how you look naked, it just wants to keep breathing in the here and now. So it doesn't respond to things the way you want it to, it responds the way that makes sense from the 'survival above all else' mindset.

When most people start dieting, they end up cutting the wrong kinds of foods, or they were already marginal in getting enough good stuff. (hence the idea of the obese actually being slightly more likely to have malnutrition than the non-obese). This sends your body into panic mode and it starts doing everything it possibly can to hold onto weight.

Being vegan you've got some things going for you, namely your trace metal status is probably amazing and your Omega 6 intake is probably not as nastylicious as it is for the rest of us. On the other hand, certain vitamins are going to be iffy for you. Especially D and E.

And your protein status is probably pretty poor. Minimum I recommend is 1g protein per kg of bodyweight and usually a little higher (1.2 to 1.5 g/kg) if you're trying to lose weight. Along with that you need to also make sure you're getting enough cholesterol. Forgot to mention, soy protein utilization is actually somewhat genotype dependent. Many of us dont' metabolize it well so it's not very bioavailable. If you're willing to do egg, egg protein powder is great stuff. Otherwise you can look into something like isopure

Hope some of this helps.

p.s. I'm like 90% lacto-ovo-vegetarian (I refuse to call myself that though) so I'm not unsympathetic to your dislike of meat.
 
Despite 15 years of ovo-lacto-vegetarianism, I've found the most effective diet is the "become an attending" diet. Since July 1, I've had time to eat a real lunch 4 times. One of those times was because I made time to take my fellow and med student out to the fancy hipster taco place. Otherwise, if I'm lucky, I eat a banana for "lunch." On my days when I work nights in the ER, "lunch time" comes somewhere between 8pm and 10pm. I'm several notches down on my belt. It's awesome. By awesome, I mean I hate it. But I do like bananas. I'm 1/4 polar bear, 1/4 monkey, and who knows what the rest of me is. I probably do need to buy some new pants, though.
 
Also, since this is the psychiatry forum, the president and founder of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, which promotes a vegan diet, is a psychiatrist.
In fairness, PCRM and PETA have leadership and financial links. I have no doubt a vegan diet is good for you, but I wouldn't take PCRM support of it as much of an endorsement. It's akin to a foundation funded by the Beef Council pitching the Atkins Diet.
 
Despite 15 years of ovo-lacto-vegetarianism, I've found the most effective diet is the "become an attending" diet. Since July 1, I've had time to eat a real lunch 4 times. One of those times was because I made time to take my fellow and med student out to the fancy hipster taco place. Otherwise, if I'm lucky, I eat a banana for "lunch." On my days when I work nights in the ER, "lunch time" comes somewhere between 8pm and 10pm. I'm several notches down on my belt. It's awesome. By awesome, I mean I hate it. But I do like bananas. I'm 1/4 polar bear, 1/4 monkey, and who knows what the rest of me is. I probably do need to buy some new pants, though.
As a junior bear/monkey/whatever I empathize. No lunch = some outer circle of hell for me. :laugh:
 
Despite 15 years of ovo-lacto-vegetarianism, I've found the most effective diet is the "become an attending" diet. Since July 1, I've had time to eat a real lunch 4 times. One of those times was because I made time to take my fellow and med student out to the fancy hipster taco place. Otherwise, if I'm lucky, I eat a banana for "lunch." On my days when I work nights in the ER, "lunch time" comes somewhere between 8pm and 10pm. I'm several notches down on my belt. It's awesome. By awesome, I mean I hate it. But I do like bananas. I'm 1/4 polar bear, 1/4 monkey, and who knows what the rest of me is. I probably do need to buy some new pants, though.

So this missing meals thing continues? Freaking miserable.

Ovo-lacto vegetarian gluten-devouring (a rarity in my city) over here. I used to be a vegan a long time ago, but I'm too into butter and cheese these days. I'm a vegetarian for ethical reasons, though, so not being a vegan makes me feel like a bit of a hypocrite, but whatever.
 
I'm pregnant so I get a lot of choline. And pickles.


Seriously I make it a point to eat at least one omega 3 egg a day since all the choline lit came out. And I eat salmon once a week, or sardines. But I did that before I was pregnant.
 
Same boat. I feel bad that I still do leather belts and shoes. Such is the life of people who somehow are better off feeling a little bit bad about ourselves.

Leather is so practical . . . I really do like it for seating and cars. I'm glad Toyota now has a leather-synthetic in its cars (SofTex) . I bought a pair of leather shoes last year and felt very guilty about it. It's a rather indulgent emotion because I did it anyway. I bought a used leather sofa but didn't feel as bad about that because of the used factor. I have a vegan cousin who will buy leather items from thrift stores. I don't know if the logic works out entirely, but I get the gut feeling that it's somehow different.
 
I'm pregnant so I get a lot of choline. And pickles.


Seriously I make it a point to eat at least one omega 3 egg a day since all the choline lit came out. And I eat salmon once a week, or sardines. But I did that before I was pregnant.


...Well all of those are great ways to improve your (preggo) diet. Big ups👍 I hope baby is "strong-like-bull" lol


I cant comment on the leather purchases. Ive never been a big fan of leather but I do occasionally purchase belts and shoes without even considering what must've went on to have them.

I do feel bad about the idea that vegans tend to suffer through what seems like oblivion to most others.

I also wonder what else should be eating me...(Aliens? Bacteria feed off of me daily...)
 
If I could swallow meat in pill form, I might . . . given that my ethics are out the door with fish oil. It's easier to just swallow something than be faced with it bite after bite. I'm going to try lowering my soy intake and eliminating triclosan (in soaps) to see if that helps a bit. Mine is so low that I doubt it's just related to environmental/diet factors. Already had a lot of bloodwork, which points to a pituitary issue. Trying to get insurance to pay for an MRI to look at my sella. But, yeah, I have never claimed not eating meat is healthy. In fact, I've read part of Mark Sisson's book on the paleo diet and find myself agreeing with a lot of it. I even read his article on how to adjust back from vegetarianism to eating meat. For a vegetarian, I'd say I eat fairly healthy—the quantities are probably just too high. I'll keep the meat thing in mind, though. My grandmother was a psychiatrist and was always trying to get me to eat meat. She said I could eat it and it would be on her conscience. I can't really claim anymore it's entirely out of moral reasons; though, I do feel guilty even with the fish oil when I think about it. But I honestly don't think about it much.

I don't think being vegetarian is any more ethical than being omnivorous. Especially when you look at the damage commercial agriculture is doing to our planet. The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith is a good treatment of the topic written by a 20 year former vegan. Seriously . . . anyone who is pursuing a vegetarian/vegan diet for supposed ethical reasons really needs to read that book and rethink things.

I think the most any of us can do is eat locally as much as possible. I eat a lot of meat, but I tend to buy it from our local co op where the meat is grassfed and from local farms.

I'm on a modified paleo diet. No grains, but I still do dairy. Lost a bunch of weight. Used to be diabetic and am not anymore.

I have no doubt a vegan diet is good for you, but I wouldn't take PCRM support of it as much of an endorsement. It's akin to a foundation funded by the Beef Council pitching the Atkins Diet.

It's horrible for you. Simply horrible.

As an aside, I really hate doing bariatric surgery evaluations because by and large I think the people who are seeking the surgery have been given bad dietary advice for years. But it's not within my scope of practice to tell them that.
 
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Hey Gals/Guys,


Anybody on a special diet?


I've been on a 80% Paleo Diet for about a month now and can really see and feel the changes of the diet switch.

Please share yours here! I would love to hear about what you do, even if it's a coffee and donuts ordeal (hehe). I've been there before, and weaning yourself off is a process.

Mark Sisson and Peter Attia fan here. I've gone about 80% paleo myself (no grains and relatively low carb), follow the simple advise of LHTs 3x a week but all body weight (push-ups, pull-ups, squats, planks and variations of the above) and/or kettle bells, still run 4x a week (about 6 miles a pop at ~70 mx HR for 3 days, maybe more on saturdays, and full-out 100m sprints on 1 day). Workouts take 1 hr tops, obviously less on 10 x 100m sprint days and some resistance days depending on set length and rest time. Also love me some red meat, eggs, dark chocolate (not so primal I know), BP coffee, and oh yeah... BACON...plus LOTs of greens... lost 30 pounds in the last year and a half...

... and getting RIPPED in the process with a set of abs that will challenge my 17 year old self. Take that one to the bank Dean Ornish.
 
... oh and sardines, chicken, ghee, pork roast, salmon, (did I say BACON?), bone broth soups, liver dishes, blah blah blah... but mm mmm mmmm!
 
Mark Sisson and Peter Attia fan here. I've gone about 80% paleo myself (no grains and relatively low carb), follow the simple advise of LHTs 3x a week but all body weight (push-ups, pull-ups, squats, planks and variations of the above) and/or kettle bells, still run 4x a week (about 6 miles a pop at ~70 mx HR for 3 days, maybe more on saturdays, and full-out 100m sprints on 1 day). Workouts take 1 hr tops, obviously less on 10 x 100m sprint days and some resistance days depending on set length and rest time. Also love me some red meat, eggs, dark chocolate (not so primal I know), BP coffee, and oh yeah... BACON...plus LOTs of greens... lost 30 pounds in the last year and a half...

... and getting RIPPED in the process with a set of abs that will challenge my 17 year old self. Take that one to the bank Dean Ornish.

Damn....👍
 
I was actually following the same diet Dharma describes for a few years until I got pregnant. I still eat about 80% what they call "paleo" these days. But in pregnancy, when I want rice I eat it, and oats. I had actually migrated to the Perfect Health Diet and still believe it's optimal. But morning sickness and constant food aversions lead me to many days with lots of non-gluten based carbs. I was doing zero sugar, even my dark chocolate was 90%. I don't think the sugar in 90% chocolate bars counts. BP coffee and tea and all that. Pregnancy has changed things, I listen to my body. But I would rather die than eat Gluten. Big fan of Davis' Wheat Belly. Gluten has been terrorized by agribusiness. In the whole process I have come to believe that elimination of cheap seed oils and gluten are really the main things to be done to have a healthy diet these days. Getting enough medium chain fats is key so I go for coconut oils and mana and all that stuff in my smoothie or tea.

Dharma I don't like that egomaniac who put his BP coffee site out there because he's all about promoting his stuff. I just have to roll my eyes. There is a much older book by a western lady, I forget her name, and she's all about coconut oil in tea to get your brain back on track. I kind of think he ripped her off.

I am four months preggars and have eaten gluten twice at most. It's inflammatory and bad news all around.
 
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Hey Gals/Guys,


Anybody on a special diet?


I've been on a 80% Paleo Diet for about a month now and can really see and feel the changes of the diet switch.

Please share yours here! I would love to hear about what you do, even if it's a coffee and donuts ordeal (hehe). I've been there before, and weaning yourself off is a process.

You must be male. I have never met a female who lost weight on Paleo, unless they had a lot to loose in the beginning. I gained muscle and felt great and will continue eating that way - although more in the Perfect Health Diet model, than strict Paelo. But I would not call "Paleo" a way to loose weight for most women. Feel excellent, yes. Think more clearly for sure. Skinny up? Not so much.
 
I'm pregnant so I get a lot of choline. And pickles.


Seriously I make it a point to eat at least one omega 3 egg a day since all the choline lit came out. And I eat salmon once a week, or sardines. But I did that before I was pregnant.

Folk wisdom in rural south India recommended several eggs a day while pregnant because babies would be smarter. Learned that from my illiterate great grandma. Crazy huh?

On the Omega 3 stuff, you really want to supplement (long long story I can get into if people really want) because commercialized ag and varietals have destroyed normal sources of dietary Omega 3. NutraSea is a really solid product tested for mercury levels. GNC is usually a bit cheaper and also well-tested. Minimum 6g a day for pregnant women. Minimum 4g a day for everyone else...
 
Fermented cod liver oil. Good source of vitamins D and A too.

I've lost a lot of weight on a paleo-ish diet. I did have it to lose, but it happened quick and easily.
 
You can also lose lots of weight fast with the grapefruit diet. Losing weight isn't hard, keeping the weight loss is hard.

I would hesitate to really jump into any diet that I couldn't see as a permanent or very long term lifestyle. If folks are Paleo or Atkins or Ornish for life, hab at it. But studies have backed up that permanently changing approaches to food is what keeps weight off. Short term modifications don't amount to much...
 
Exactly. I see it as a lifestyle rather than a diet. And I've kept the weight off for about a year now. Having taken up running probably hasn't hurt either.
 
I was actually following the same diet Dharma describes for a few years until I got pregnant. I still eat about 80% what they call "paleo" these days. But in pregnancy, when I want rice I eat it, and oats. I had actually migrated to the Perfect Health Diet and still believe it's optimal. But morning sickness and constant food aversions lead me to many days with lots of non-gluten based carbs. I was doing zero sugar, even my dark chocolate was 90%. I don't think the sugar in 90% chocolate bars counts. BP coffee and tea and all that. Pregnancy has changed things, I listen to my body. But I would rather die than eat Gluten. Big fan of Davis' Wheat Belly. Gluten has been terrorized by agribusiness. In the whole process I have come to believe that elimination of cheap seed oils and gluten are really the main things to be done to have a healthy diet these days. Getting enough medium chain fats is key so I go for coconut oils and mana and all that stuff in my smoothie or tea.

Dharma I don't like that egomaniac who put his BP coffee site out there because he's all about promoting his stuff. I just have to roll my eyes. There is a much older book by a western lady, I forget her name, and she's all about coconut oil in tea to get your brain back on track. I kind of think he ripped her off.

I am four months preggars and have eaten gluten twice at most. It's inflammatory and bad news all around.

I 100% agree with the "listen to your body" sentiment. When you need that extra kick of starch, sleep, rest, or even a cheat meal (I'm a sucker for pizza...) you should go for it. I don't think it's about following a protocol pitched by some diet guru or adhering to a system, but really finding what works for oneself. Some things may turn out to just be more successfully than others for the majority (and I know what I have my money on 😉 )

Coconut oil is definitely stocked in our cabinets (and Costco has some great deals). But I'm right on board with you about Asprey (the Bulletproof guy); while he does bring up some good points and at least stirs the pot a bit to get discussion flowing, I'm also not a fan of his attitude and quite skeptical of his marketing intentions at times since he seems to have a new product every week (and expensive at that). That said, he does admit to ripping off the whole "butter in my drink" thing from sherpas back in his climbing days. But yeah, he is tough to read at times...

Anyhow, best of luck with the second half of the pregnancy! Stay strong!
 
You can also lose lots of weight fast with the grapefruit diet. Losing weight isn't hard, keeping the weight loss is hard.

I would hesitate to really jump into any diet that I couldn't see as a permanent or very long term lifestyle. If folks are Paleo or Atkins or Ornish for life, hab at it. But studies have backed up that permanently changing approaches to food is what keeps weight off. Short term modifications don't amount to much...

👍 It's all about lifestyle. Once you make it about lifestyle that's when real longterm changes can start taking place. Until then, any diet is prone to suffer the same destiny as that ab-roller collecting dust and towels in the back of the room (that same one you thought would change everything and have the ladies turning their heads) ... used for a few months at most, then forgotten about and finally waiting at the curb. (I should've never bought that thing back in '97...)
 
Exactly. I see it as a lifestyle rather than a diet. And I've kept the weight off for about a year now. Having taken up running probably hasn't hurt either.
Well done. Glad you found something that works for you. I'm still experimenting. I've yet to find the right diet that accommodates carbs and stout as easily as I'd like.
 
👍 It's all about lifestyle. Once you make it about lifestyle that's when real longterm changes can start taking place. Until then, any diet is prone to suffer the same destiny as that ab-roller collecting dust and towels in the back of the room (that same one you thought would change everything and have the ladies turning their heads) ... used for a few months at most, then forgotten about and finally waiting at the curb. (I should've never bought that thing back in '97...)

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I think its also important for us to LIKE what we eat, or at least learn to like how we eat. Nothing is worse than sticking tasteless ricecakes in your mouth everyday. Sustainability is not about sufferage. I enjoy cleaning up my diet instead of trying to incorporate things I clearly dont like.

I am at best 80% paleo-ish. I like my greek yogurt and preserves, my milk chocolate covered almonds, and I usually go with the flow when I eat out.

Thankfully, I also cook 90% of the food I consume. It tastes better and its more nutritious. I spend about 2 hours every day preparing meals. Its time consuming in residency, but its what I love.

Garlic, Scallions, fresh green stuff, organic berries, roasted meats, tons of leftovers for work.

Yep, I'm Male.
 
Well done. Glad you found something that works for you. I'm still experimenting. I've yet to find the right diet that accommodates carbs and stout as easily as I'd like.

This is remarkably similar to the "Attending Diet" I described above. The best part is that you don't really need to worry about long-term anything because chances are you won't survive long enough for it to matter!
 
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I think its also important for us to LIKE what we eat, or at least learn to like how we eat. Nothing is worse than sticking tasteless ricecakes in your mouth everyday. Sustainability is not about sufferage. I enjoy cleaning up my diet instead of trying to incorporate things I clearly dont like.

I am at best 80% paleo-ish. I like my greek yogurt and preserves, my milk chocolate covered almonds, and I usually go with the flow when I eat out.

Thankfully, I also cook 90% of the food I consume. It tastes better and its more nutritious. I spend about 2 hours every day preparing meals. Its time consuming in residency, but its what I love.

Garlic, Scallions, fresh green stuff, organic berries, roasted meats, tons of leftovers for work.

Yep, I'm Male.

Nice dude! 2 hours even during residency! WOW! I'm struggling getting to the stove daily just during M2 over here! Haha! Kudos to you! Keep it going!

I think cooking for yourself is clutch (when possible... take home: make lots for leftovers!). I've grown quite fond of the kitchen and I think that's one of the biggest reasons why I have seen such improvements. No more boxed b.s. Eating out is a rarity these days. Saves a lot of dough and allows me to know what's in my food (well, mostly what's in there at least). It really allows me to enjoy what I eat, not to mention enjoy preparing it. Definitely a part of the whole lifestyle thing. If I only knew how to hunt...
 
Maintaining bodyweight has a hell of a lot more to do with lean body mass than it does diet. Not to mention that LBM is now acknowledged as a really powerful indicator of all sorts of longevity and quality of life measures. It's important to differentiate between protocols that build sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (bodybuilding) vs. myofibrillar hypertrophy, as its the latter that actually provides metabolic and functional benefits.

A classic program like 5x5 (Bill Starr, Strong Lifts), Rippetoe's starting strength, Rippetoe's Texas Method, Wendler's 5/3/1 is plenty. Intersperse with some intervals 2x per week, and a nice long cardio day like walking, hiking, or leisurely biking. If you really g all out when you lift, you can skip the intervals for that matter.
 
This is remarkably similar to the "Attending Diet" I described above. The best part is that you don't really need to worry about long-term anything because chances are you won't survive long enough for it to matter!
Live fast, die young(ish), and leave a bloated corpse...
 
Maintaining bodyweight has a hell of a lot more to do with lean body mass than it does diet. Not to mention that LBM is now acknowledged as a really powerful indicator of all sorts of longevity and quality of life measures. It's important to differentiate between protocols that build sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (bodybuilding) vs. myofibrillar hypertrophy, as its the latter that actually provides metabolic and functional benefits.

A classic program like 5x5 (Bill Starr, Strong Lifts), Rippetoe's starting strength, Rippetoe's Texas Method, Wendler's 5/3/1 is plenty. Intersperse with some intervals 2x per week, and a nice long cardio day like walking, hiking, or leisurely biking. If you really g all out when you lift, you can skip the intervals for that matter.

I'm really interested in your ideas on this. Particularly the types of MSK development that are optimal for health. But you went jargon level 11 right there.

What is sacroplasmic vs myofibrillar hyperteophy, just for starters?
 
Maintaining bodyweight has a hell of a lot more to do with lean body mass than it does diet. Not to mention that LBM is now acknowledged as a really powerful indicator of all sorts of longevity and quality of life measures. It's important to differentiate between protocols that build sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (bodybuilding) vs. myofibrillar hypertrophy, as its the latter that actually provides metabolic and functional benefits.

A classic program like 5x5 (Bill Starr, Strong Lifts), Rippetoe's starting strength, Rippetoe's Texas Method, Wendler's 5/3/1 is plenty. Intersperse with some intervals 2x per week, and a nice long cardio day like walking, hiking, or leisurely biking. If you really g all out when you lift, you can skip the intervals for that matter.


But this does not explain the whole picture. I would argue that it is more important to keep to a good diet for maintenance of bodyweight vs. relying on some predetermined set of lean body mass. Our basal metabolic rates are only going to get us so far. Regardless of how fast it moves, eventually, it will not like donuts...

And to be sure, there is very little about (real) bodybuilding (aka sarcoplasmic hypertrophy) that is healthy. Your kidneys take a big hit every time you scale up or down and lord only knows what your lipid panel is during competition time. Muscle, albeit not the same compound, eventually becomes a fat container. You ever seen a stocky muscular young man grow up to be a thin lean muscular silverman? Not here...

I agree that getting more activating muscles via recruitment (aka myofibrillar hypertrophy) is overall the best exercise plan, but nothing changes your body, mind, and spirit like a well balanced, healthy, calorie-controlled diet. The most telling example are those faithful gymgoers that hog up the equipment at the gym, working like slaves, and have no noticeable change in body composition over several years.

It is very common for the person to describe their diet as "Crap because I [insert your favorite excuse] ->can't cook, work long hours, am big boned, am under a lot of stress.

Diet Dude, Diet
 
But this does not explain the whole picture. I would argue that it is more important to keep to a good diet for maintenance of bodyweight vs. relying on some predetermined set of lean body mass. Our basal metabolic rates are only going to get us so far. Regardless of how fast it moves, eventually, it will not like donuts...

And to be sure, there is very little about (real) bodybuilding (aka sarcoplasmic hypertrophy) that is healthy. Your kidneys take a big hit every time you scale up or down and lord only knows what your lipid panel is during competition time. Muscle, albeit not the same compound, eventually becomes a fat container. You ever seen a stocky muscular young man grow up to be a thin lean muscular silverman? Not here...

I agree that getting more activating muscles via recruitment (aka myofibrillar hypertrophy) is overall the best exercise plan, but nothing changes your body, mind, and spirit like a well balanced, healthy, calorie-controlled diet. The most telling example are those faithful gymgoers that hog up the equipment at the gym, working like slaves, and have no noticeable change in body composition over several years.

It is very common for the person to describe their diet as "Crap because I [insert your favorite excuse] ->can't cook, work long hours, am big boned, am under a lot of stress.

Diet Dude, Diet

Replying to both you and Nasrudin here. Myofibrillar hypertrophy doesn't require (and in some ways can prohibit) large gains in total mass. We are not talking about Arnold or even the typical action hero build here, but something rather more modest; in the 'overweight' range of BMI rather than the 'obese' range. Think male in the 170s at 5'11 or so.

Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy refers to an increase in the volume of the non-contractile elements of muscle. Glycogen, endoplasmic reticulum, mitochondria, ribosomes, golgi bodies. That sort of stuff.

Myofibrillar hypertrophy on the other hand refers to an increase in the density and total weight of contractile elements of muscle tissue. The good stuff.

A typical strength-focused protocol might involve SOME mass gain especially in early years, but is typically structured in a way that you can continue to train for the rest of your life and gain relatively little in overall volume and mass beyond a certain point (fat free mass index of 20-23 generally speaking). I have been hitting the iron like it was my life (and in some ways it saved mine) since the age of 19 or so. In that decade, I've gained something like 10lbs. Most of it before I was 21 and probably more attributable to hormonal maturity rather than my training. This isn't atypical, and strength athletes looking to add significant bulk usually have to use non-strength-based protocols to do so.

The contractile portion of muscle is responsible for a heck of a lot of important stuff both functionally and metabolically.

From a functional perspective, our musculoskeletal system is composed of passive and active players, with bones and connective tissue comprising the passive parts while muscle takes on the active role. The reason that strength-based protocols have consistently been found to reduce the pain of arthritis is because it improves joint function through improving the active component (there's an increasingly large corresponding body of evidence indicating that it is maladaptive locomotor and activation patterns in muscle that is responsible for OA in the first place).

Sarcopenia is now understood to be a major predictor of declining function in everything from cognition to pain to basic longevity. Those of us with greater myofibrillar density will see a correspondingly slower decline in total lean body mass over time, and more importantly, what we do keep, we'll use better. Contrary to popular opinion, the pre-steroid era strongmen (especially those who maintained relatively normal bodyweights) lived very long, very active lives, doing things in their 70s that most of us couldn't in our 20s. Cardiovascular exercise has little effect on lean body mass and most studies have found that avid cardio people don't seem to live that much longer than sedentary individuals. Unfortunately, the waters of weight-lifting are so polluted by bodybuilders as to be effectively useless when it comes to attempting a longevity study using this population, but anecdotal evidence is pretty strong nonetheless.

Metabolically, muscle, and in particular muscle-building activity has a lot of important effects. At a very basic level, lean body mass raises your basal metabolic rate. You have a larger caloric budget. It also has much greater EPOC (excess post-exercise oxygen consumption) than aerobic exercise. At around 3000 calories per day, at a maintenance weight, I have a significantly larger caloric budget than most and this shows in the sheer amount of junk food I eat while maintaining a 10 or under percent body fat.

Muscle also improves insulin sensitivity; it's the most important variable when it comes to that. And as we know insulin sensitivity determines a broad range of functioning most likely due to the global effects of elevated blood sugar on microvascular and immune health throughout the body. Although that said, insulin sensitivity seems to have a direct effect on nervous system (as well as muscle) function.

Finally, muscle, and especially explosive and/or high intensity activity (sprints, olympic lifts, near-max weightlifting) has important effects hormonally that cannot be replicated by any form of steady-state or 'aerobic' exercise or diet. High intensity activity drastically increases GH release (near-max squats stimulate GH release to well above baseline), testosterone levels, thyroid hormone sensitivity. It also decreases baseline cortisol and improves cortisol reactivity (i.e. healthier response to stress). It downregulates systemic sympathetic tone and improves blood pressure control substantially more than aerobic exercise does. It also improves the proportion of time spent in deeper stages of sleep (again important for the HPA axis functions that ONLY happen during deep sleep). True high-intensity weightlifting has not been studied very much unfortunately, but there is a trend for greater improvements in cognition in the elderly as well as younger populations, improvements in depression with an effect size similar to antidepressants, and a trend toward greater efficacy as an anti-anxiety treatment. In each of these areas, high-intensity weightlifting far outperforms traditional 'aerobic' work.

Oh, as an aside, high intensity weightlifting improves cardiovascular functioning by a similar margin to steady-state aerobic exercise (HIIT works better than both though).

I'm not even sure how to address your idea that muscle eventually becomes a fat container. Yes, BBers typically run to fat. This is because the form of hypertrophy they undergo is essentially big water balloons as opposed to dense rubber bands. And because they typically use artificial means to maintain their bulk (whether steroids, or excessive volume of weights, or glycogen storage increase or whatever), these means slowly become unstable over time.

But again, myofibrillar hypertrophy and fitness through high-intensity weight lifting is not about massive increases in body weight. In fact, I generally maintain that the size one would normally get to with this form of training is about the size of the average pre-agriculture Homo sapiens and slightly smaller than Homo heidelbergensis. The analogy here is a tiger in captivity versus one in the wild. One could argue that we should have more lean mass than we do due to our sedentary lifestyles and that the 5-20lbs extra puts them at 'normal'. There's nowhere for your huge containers of fat to go.

And to hit your final point, the science of weightlifting is quite complex. The old-time strongmen of the pre-steroid era actually had a far better intuitive grasp of it than most people realize, and they tended to be not so terribly huge (Hackenschmidt at 218 and 5'10' was one of the more massive of the turn of the century era strongmen--this roughly one standard dev outside of Homo heidelbergensis by weight and the same height, so nothing outlandish). What's done in gyms rarely bears any resemblance to the thousands-of-years-old tradition of weightlifting as practiced by ancient India, Greece, and the Celtic nations. It's usually BBer style training. High rep high volume isolation training. Even the gym bunnies are doing a variation of BBer style training for the most part. Functional weight training is typically big compound movements, near-max weights, low rep and low to moderate volume. The movements are often performed differently, with different energy systems, different tempos, and different, well, everything.

I've been a gym rat for years and I very rarely meet someone who is lifting using a strength and function-based protocol as opposed to a variation of a BBer template (even if they think they're going for strength and function--which to be fair, most are under the impression they are). You don't blame the hammer because someone's holding it by the head and trying to bang in a nail with the handle. Unfortunately, 95%+ of the people you see in the gym are doing just that.

p.s. I know I didn't touch on diet (which I do think is very important--I'm a Whole Foods/trader joe's/local grown/limit gluten/limit grains kind of guy). I'm tired and I just wrote a novel...
 
Replying to both you and Nasrudin here. Myofibrillar hypertrophy doesn't require (and in some ways can prohibit) large gains in total mass. We are not talking about Arnold or even the typical action hero build here, but something rather more modest; in the 'overweight' range of BMI rather than the 'obese' range. Think male in the 170s at 5'11 or so.

Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy refers to an increase in the volume of the non-contractile elements of muscle. Glycogen, endoplasmic reticulum, mitochondria, ribosomes, golgi bodies. That sort of stuff.

Myofibrillar hypertrophy on the other hand refers to an increase in the density and total weight of contractile elements of muscle tissue. The good stuff.

A typical strength-focused protocol might involve SOME mass gain especially in early years, but is typically structured in a way that you can continue to train for the rest of your life and gain relatively little in overall volume and mass beyond a certain point (fat free mass index of 20-23 generally speaking). I have been hitting the iron like it was my life (and in some ways it saved mine) since the age of 19 or so. In that decade, I've gained something like 10lbs. Most of it before I was 21 and probably more attributable to hormonal maturity rather than my training. This isn't atypical, and strength athletes looking to add significant bulk usually have to use non-strength-based protocols to do so.

The contractile portion of muscle is responsible for a heck of a lot of important stuff both functionally and metabolically.

From a functional perspective, our musculoskeletal system is composed of passive and active players, with bones and connective tissue comprising the passive parts while muscle takes on the active role. The reason that strength-based protocols have consistently been found to reduce the pain of arthritis is because it improves joint function through improving the active component (there's an increasingly large corresponding body of evidence indicating that it is maladaptive locomotor and activation patterns in muscle that is responsible for OA in the first place).

Sarcopenia is now understood to be a major predictor of declining function in everything from cognition to pain to basic longevity. Those of us with greater myofibrillar density will see a correspondingly slower decline in total lean body mass over time, and more importantly, what we do keep, we'll use better. Contrary to popular opinion, the pre-steroid era strongmen (especially those who maintained relatively normal bodyweights) lived very long, very active lives, doing things in their 70s that most of us couldn't in our 20s. Cardiovascular exercise has little effect on lean body mass and most studies have found that avid cardio people don't seem to live that much longer than sedentary individuals. Unfortunately, the waters of weight-lifting are so polluted by bodybuilders as to be effectively useless when it comes to attempting a longevity study using this population, but anecdotal evidence is pretty strong nonetheless.

Metabolically, muscle, and in particular muscle-building activity has a lot of important effects. At a very basic level, lean body mass raises your basal metabolic rate. You have a larger caloric budget. It also has much greater EPOC (excess post-exercise oxygen consumption) than aerobic exercise. At around 3000 calories per day, at a maintenance weight, I have a significantly larger caloric budget than most and this shows in the sheer amount of junk food I eat while maintaining a 10 or under percent body fat.

Muscle also improves insulin sensitivity; it's the most important variable when it comes to that. And as we know insulin sensitivity determines a broad range of functioning most likely due to the global effects of elevated blood sugar on microvascular and immune health throughout the body. Although that said, insulin sensitivity seems to have a direct effect on nervous system (as well as muscle) function.

Finally, muscle, and especially explosive and/or high intensity activity (sprints, olympic lifts, near-max weightlifting) has important effects hormonally that cannot be replicated by any form of steady-state or 'aerobic' exercise or diet. High intensity activity drastically increases GH release (near-max squats stimulate GH release to well above baseline), testosterone levels, thyroid hormone sensitivity. It also decreases baseline cortisol and improves cortisol reactivity (i.e. healthier response to stress). It downregulates systemic sympathetic tone and improves blood pressure control substantially more than aerobic exercise does. It also improves the proportion of time spent in deeper stages of sleep (again important for the HPA axis functions that ONLY happen during deep sleep). True high-intensity weightlifting has not been studied very much unfortunately, but there is a trend for greater improvements in cognition in the elderly as well as younger populations, improvements in depression with an effect size similar to antidepressants, and a trend toward greater efficacy as an anti-anxiety treatment. In each of these areas, high-intensity weightlifting far outperforms traditional 'aerobic' work.

Oh, as an aside, high intensity weightlifting improves cardiovascular functioning by a similar margin to steady-state aerobic exercise (HIIT works better than both though).

I'm not even sure how to address your idea that muscle eventually becomes a fat container. Yes, BBers typically run to fat. This is because the form of hypertrophy they undergo is essentially big water balloons as opposed to dense rubber bands. And because they typically use artificial means to maintain their bulk (whether steroids, or excessive volume of weights, or glycogen storage increase or whatever), these means slowly become unstable over time.

But again, myofibrillar hypertrophy and fitness through high-intensity weight lifting is not about massive increases in body weight. In fact, I generally maintain that the size one would normally get to with this form of training is about the size of the average pre-agriculture Homo sapiens and slightly smaller than Homo heidelbergensis. The analogy here is a tiger in captivity versus one in the wild. One could argue that we should have more lean mass than we do due to our sedentary lifestyles and that the 5-20lbs extra puts them at 'normal'. There's nowhere for your huge containers of fat to go.

And to hit your final point, the science of weightlifting is quite complex. The old-time strongmen of the pre-steroid era actually had a far better intuitive grasp of it than most people realize, and they tended to be not so terribly huge (Hackenschmidt at 218 and 5'10' was one of the more massive of the turn of the century era strongmen--this roughly one standard dev outside of Homo heidelbergensis by weight and the same height, so nothing outlandish). What's done in gyms rarely bears any resemblance to the thousands-of-years-old tradition of weightlifting as practiced by ancient India, Greece, and the Celtic nations. It's usually BBer style training. High rep high volume isolation training. Even the gym bunnies are doing a variation of BBer style training for the most part. Functional weight training is typically big compound movements, near-max weights, low rep and low to moderate volume. The movements are often performed differently, with different energy systems, different tempos, and different, well, everything.

I've been a gym rat for years and I very rarely meet someone who is lifting using a strength and function-based protocol as opposed to a variation of a BBer template (even if they think they're going for strength and function--which to be fair, most are under the impression they are). You don't blame the hammer because someone's holding it by the head and trying to bang in a nail with the handle. Unfortunately, 95%+ of the people you see in the gym are doing just that.

p.s. I know I didn't touch on diet (which I do think is very important--I'm a Whole Foods/trader joe's/local grown/limit gluten/limit grains kind of guy). I'm tired and I just wrote a novel...

Fascinating stuff. I had to read it a few times but I think I get what you're saying.

Can you recommend a reading reference that would help me design a regimen for myself using the principles you're indicating. I've hit a plateau with a very consistent hatha yoga practice. I'm doing something similar diet wise as you and that's brought me down about 10 lbs but I'm still too heavy in the stomach.

I've been reticent to experiment with weights because of multiple back surgeries from a work injury. But I've been slowly arriving at infantile stages of your thought processes. I tried some kettle bell work but couldn't find anybody to teach me proper form and couldn't afford my studio fees and gym fees

Any thoughts are appreciated.
 
Fascinating stuff. I had to read it a few times but I think I get what you're saying.

Can you recommend a reading reference that would help me design a regimen for myself using the principles you're indicating. I've hit a plateau with a very consistent hatha yoga practice. I'm doing something similar diet wise as you and that's brought me down about 10 lbs but I'm still too heavy in the stomach.

I've been reticent to experiment with weights because of multiple back surgeries from a work injury. But I've been slowly arriving at infantile stages of your thought processes. I tried some kettle bell work but couldn't find anybody to teach me proper form and couldn't afford my studio fees and gym fees

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Check this out:http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-fitness/#axzz2e7MBoqBB

What masterofmonkeys is saying sounds legit; the workouts he speaks of are not for the uninitiated newb though. Even if you do seek out a trainer versed in the approach he mentions, a solid foundation in basics may help as well. I follow a simple protocol (as mentioned earlier) of pushups, pull-ups, squats, and planks with variations of the above when things start getting too easy (i.e. reps start getting too high). So, transitioning to plyometric pushups, uneven pull-ups, one-legged squats, etc helps increase intensity without getting into crazy high repetitions. There's enough to keep me busy for now and it doesn't cut into my schedule too much, especially because I can do them at home with ease. HIIT is also a major boost to improvement, but I admittedly have much to improve on in this realm.

Anyhow, Sisson's ebook (link above) is well worth a read. It's short and you can easily get through it in a day. A lot of what he is talking about is not much different than what mastersofmonkeys is saying, but it's geared towards more of a beginners' level. I'm guessing one could take it to the next level after sometime... something I'm considering, especially in terms of increasing intensity. That said, I'm not so sure I'll return to the gym again... I'd rather flip the tractor tire up and down the football field down the street or do some one-armed pull-ups from the soccer goal post, after firing off some sprints, or explosion jumps on top of the concrete ledge.

Masterofmonkeys... awesome response!!! Thanks for the education there. I obviously have lots to learn regarding resistance training. Watch out for that junk food though. May not be showing up on that waistline yet, but inflammations' a *ithch! Stick to that regimen you mention in the p.s. 😉
 
I think the problem with generalizing about a vegan diet is there are a wide range of sophistication and knowledge of foods and nutrition with people who do a vegan diet. There are lots of ways to get a wide variety of nutrients present in meat if you know what you're doing.

My wife is vegan and is a superb chef. She uses supplements, superfoods, seeds, cooking oils, and so forth to get the nutrients she needs. And vegan food is f'n delicious. That's another thing that hampers experimenters with this diet. They lack culinary skill.
 
That is not a vegan at all. Unlike her, I've actually been vegan for over 8 years and have zero health problems.

I've been most healthy in my life as a vegan also. I have been a vegan for the last 6-7 years which was both for health and ethics. (However, I admit that the past 2 months, I've slipped into lacto-vegetarian, as I did eat dairy several times). I find that dairy products don't agree with me at all, and I plan to go back to being vegan again as I felt MUCH healthier without the dairy. I was also recently hearing about how consuming dairy products also feeds the veal industry, which is something I want no part of - so I guess the dairy has to go, no matter how much I like the taste of dairy-containing products. (I am okay with honey though, but don't want any dairy or eggs.) When I omit gluten-containing products and eat whole food unprocessed vegan without any packaged foods (like lots of fruits, salads, green smoothies, beans, lentils, tempeh, nuts, sweet potatoes, quinoa, oats, etc) - that is when I feel my best.

And yes, I do avoid leather shoes, belts, etc.
 
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Check this out:http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-fitness/#axzz2e7MBoqBB

What masterofmonkeys is saying sounds legit; the workouts he speaks of are not for the uninitiated newb though. Even if you do seek out a trainer versed in the approach he mentions, a solid foundation in basics may help as well. I follow a simple protocol (as mentioned earlier) of pushups, pull-ups, squats, and planks with variations of the above when things start getting too easy (i.e. reps start getting too high). So, transitioning to plyometric pushups, uneven pull-ups, one-legged squats, etc helps increase intensity without getting into crazy high repetitions. There's enough to keep me busy for now and it doesn't cut into my schedule too much, especially because I can do them at home with ease. HIIT is also a major boost to improvement, but I admittedly have much to improve on in this realm.

Anyhow, Sisson's ebook (link above) is well worth a read. It's short and you can easily get through it in a day. A lot of what he is talking about is not much different than what mastersofmonkeys is saying, but it's geared towards more of a beginners' level. I'm guessing one could take it to the next level after sometime... something I'm considering, especially in terms of increasing intensity. That said, I'm not so sure I'll return to the gym again... I'd rather flip the tractor tire up and down the football field down the street or do some one-armed pull-ups from the soccer goal post, after firing off some sprints, or explosion jumps on top of the concrete ledge.

Masterofmonkeys... awesome response!!! Thanks for the education there. I obviously have lots to learn regarding resistance training. Watch out for that junk food though. May not be showing up on that waistline yet, but inflammations' a *ithch! Stick to that regimen you mention in the p.s. 😉

The best resource I know of for those getting introduced to the iron game is Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength. It's a magnificent work, and very thorough despite being very accessible. The accompanying DVD is the best resource I know of for learning the basics of the major movements. Then there's his webpage startingstrength.com with a lot of tips from old school ironmongers. Finally here's this:
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Wit_and_Wisdom_of_Mark_Rippetoe

There are always bodyweight exercises. There are some I can't do, despite my decent (compared to the general population--nothing compared to a real strength athlete) numbers. But you get into the issue that you mentioned, namely the reps required for the simple exercises, combined with the difficulty of ascending to the higher tier of bodyweight exercises (front levers, flags, one-armed pullups). Which makes them a very inefficient way to train at a certain level of strength.

The other thing I love about the barbell is that it's a laboratory. You train with an infinitely manipulable, infinitely controllable set of parameters. As a guy with a spinal cord injury, trying to train around tens of little muscle asymmetries, imbalances, and straight up losses of function, I've found this invaluable. I can alter my position, I can alter the barbell's position, I can alter the direction of momentum, I can alter load. Well, you get the picture. The result is that a few years after my SCI was finally diagnosed, they looked at my followup MRIs and did a recheck on the patient ID to make sure they were looking at the same guy. Some of my osteophytes had actually managed to resorb and the impingement in my spinal canal had actually decreased significantly.

This is directly translatable to everyday people and everyday MSK dysfunction. We all sit a lot, we get head forward posture, shortened hamstrings, and our butts forget to fire. That time in the barbell laboratory counteracts those changes.
 
I see patients every day who despite decades of a steady diet of junk food and no exercise, have A1cs in the low 5s, lipid levels that are pretty decent, and no HTN. We all have patients like that. Eventually this will catch up to them, but for now they can say 'I have no health problems and eat like crap!' Obviously none of us would consider this evidence that a junk food diet and obesity is ok.

We don't have much in the way of studies regarding longevity studies in VEGANS (as opposed to lacto-ovo-vegetarians), and what little we do have indicates that at the population level, a large chunk of the differences in mortality and morbidity for all vegetarians/vegans can be attributable to overall healthy lifestyle differences (more frequent exercise, less smoking, higher incomes, fewer chronic stressors). A large chunk, not all. There are some pretty clear advantages to reducing meat intake like lower risk of cancer, lower risk of ischemic heart disease, and lower risk of stroke as well, which I am certainly not going to sneeze at, but there is little evidence that vegans actually have better longevity or health than LOV.

I have some concerns about veganism. One of which is that it is a highly artificial diet. I realize that sounds weird but stick with me. In order for a vegan to maintain a healthy, rounded diet, they have to supplement, source foods from all sorts of places or even get animal-derived or wholly synthetic supplements in order to get a range of micronutrients including choline, B12, Vit D, and EPA/DHA (ALA is not elongated to EPA or DHA at biologically meaningful levels). And that doesn't include all the things we're still learning about, like carnitine, taurine, choline, and other compounds which are again mostly available by meat. Another specific concern is the relatively low HDL and lower lean body mass seen in vegan populations.

The bottom line is that the human body has a lot of strikes against it to attempt a purely vegan lifestyle. Our guts are too short, have too short a transit time, low bacterial capacity, our livers aren't robust enough to process a lot of alkaloids, we have really poor synthesis of a variety of important nutrients from amino acids, to EPA/DHA, to certain trace minerals with important functions. It takes a lot of work to overcome those and some of them kind of work at cross purposes to the supposed ethical basis of veganism. It's almost like we evolved as omnivores or something.

I'm sympathetic to LOV, and think we all probably eat too much meat, but I am and will always be skeptical of veganism.
 
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