What does PBL actually mean??

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LECOMB has PBL only. What does it actually mean?? Do you just study on you own????

 

[theringworm]

Problem based learning.

 

[Robz]

I'll take it a step further.

Its another way of learning versus self study or lecture based systems. Problem based learning is more akin to getting a case study on a specific disease or problem and studing it to its fullest.

Think going into a small group and having a patient to talk about with diabeties. Now you learn not only the sign, symptoms, and general clinical aspects of the disease but you go further into biochemistry and the innerworkings of whats actually going on.

I was looking into this option when I interviewed at LECOM and its the only kind taught at their florida campus.

I am sure a current LECOM student can tell you a lot more.

 

[Peace&Health]

at first i thought pbl would be a cool way to learn since I like working in groups. Then I researched somemore and realized its not for me.

If you are good at learning independently, then you would probably do well with PBL. PBL puts the learning responsibility on the student. For me, its hard for me to determine what's important and not important to master, so I prefer the traditional lectures (organ system approach). I also heard that PBL doesn't prepare you as well for the boards.

 

[Xanderain]

If you are good at learning independently, then you would probably do well with PBL. PBL puts the learning responsibility on the student. For me, its hard for me to determine what's important and not important to master, so I prefer the traditional lectures (organ system approach). I also heard that PBL doesn't prepare you as well for the boards.

Well, that is not exactly correct. Yes, PBL does encourage independence, but the faciliators are there for a reason. They will let you know if the group is way off course, or need to focus one area more. Additionally, PBL puts the learning responsibility on the students (plural), not the singular student. The group decides what to study, and splits up the topics that need to be looked up and researched. If you aren't any good at chemistry, then you don't necessarily have to look up the chem part of the case. And as for board preparation, from what I have heard at LECOM, it actually has higher pass rates than lecture-based approach. The determining factor in that is that it is the student that decides whether PBL is right for them, and the PBL pathway is intrinsically more flexible to different learning styles. It's not for everybody, but for the right people, it can be awesome.

 

[(nicedream)]

Indeed, PBL has been wildly successful at preparing students for the boards at all the schools which have instituted it. Harvard pioneered PBL in medical school in the early 90s, and schools have been steadily adding it as an option ever since.

 

[daelroy]

PBL is a fancy word for Group study. Most people can't stand it for a reason because it is a highly disorganized and convulative way to study. There will always be a few people that like but you will find that the majority of students in any PBL school will not like it. It depends on your learning style of course so don't rule it out. And Harvard is not 100% PBL. That is a misnomer. Most school emphasize aspects of PBL in their classes which is what Harvard employs. But a system that is 100% PBL is entirely different. USC is a PBL school but I could be mistaken on that. I personally hate relying on group study because some members of the group never do their share of their work and there is essentially nothing you can do to alleviate that.

 

[(nicedream)]

PBL is a fancy word for Group study. Most people can't stand it for a reason because it is a highly disorganized and convulative way to study. There will always be a few people that like but you will find that the majority of students in any PBL school will not like it. It depends on your learning style of course so don't rule it out. And Harvard is not 100% PBL. That is a misnomer. Most school emphasize aspects of PBL in their classes which is what Harvard employs. But a system that is 100% PBL is entirely different. USC is a PBL school but I could be mistaken on that. I personally hate relying on group study because some members of the group never do their share of their work and there is essentially nothing you can do to alleviate that.

You believe that most people would prefer to sit through lectures?

 

[doc erica]

I personally hate relying on group study because some members of the group never do their share of their work and there is essentially nothing you can do to alleviate that.

Hopefully, the people that didn't do their share in work, didn't apply to medical school due to their lack of motivation. Moreso, I can't imagine slackers getting accepted in the first place.

 

[Xanderain]

You have to realize something: people that go to medical school WANT to become doctors. But, people in an undergraduate setting that are in any particular class don't necessarily want to be in that class. Thus, you are much more likely to find slackers in the group work of the undergraduate level, than in the graduate level. One also has to realize that there is a certain level of interest that is generated in the case. When I had a PBL class at UF, even though we never approached the level of information that I doctor would need to know, I felt like I was kind of acting sort of like a physician, and I eagerly worked my ass off to learn all that I could to bring back to the group.


-Joey

 

[smgilles]

Hopefully, the people that didn't do their share in work, didn't apply to medical school due to their lack of motivation. Moreso, I can't imagine slackers getting accepted in the first place.

I am in PBL2007 at LECOM and their are plenty of slackers and unmotivated people. I suggest you get used to it early on and be prepared to work that much harder. Don't get me wrong I enjoy PBL, but you will be surrounded by people who prefer to be doing other things than group work.

 

[novacek88]

Hopefully, the people that didn't do their share in work, didn't apply to medical school due to their lack of motivation. Moreso, I can't imagine slackers getting accepted in the first place.

No slackers in medical school. ha ha ha ha that's funniest thing I have heard in a long time.

 

[(nicedream)]

Yeah I'll be one - you know that Erica

 

[doc erica]

Yeah I'll be one - you know that Erica

alright, i won't deny that i've slacked . noah and i can be in the same pbl group! i guess like joey, i hope to believe that their will be a higher level of interest in med school, as compared to undergrad.

 

[gr8n]

PBL, ISP, Lecture...what's the "actual" difference anyways? I feel that either way, a dedicated student is going to work his/her a$$ off to get the grades they need for their desired residency...right? JUST GET IN!!!! haha

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