What happens if you CAN'T get a 3 year residency?

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Can you do a 2 year, THEN later pickup the 3rd year? I'm just wondering what someone would do if they went through school, graduated and had their heart set on a 3 year, then couldn't get it?

Can you do any less than a 2 year residency anymore as of now, by the way? I'm looking too far ahead I know, as things will change in the next few years, but it is a consideration many students should be aware of BEFORE starting school and getting into serious loan debt. 😱
 
capo said:
Can you do a 2 year, THEN later pickup the 3rd year? I'm just wondering what someone would do if they went through school, graduated and had their heart set on a 3 year, then couldn't get it?

Can you do any less than a 2 year residency anymore as of now, by the way? I'm looking too far ahead I know, as things will change in the next few years, but it is a consideration many students should be aware of BEFORE starting school and getting into serious loan debt. 😱

If you don't get into a PM&S-36 program and you ended up doing a PM&S-24 program, you can always try to scramble into a 3rd year position of a PM&S-36 program. There are various reasons why a second year or a third year position may become available. Some of these include resident being unhappy in the program, resident being fired due to incompetency or did something very bad, resident dropping out for personal reasons, etc.... This year alone had several programs that had a second or third year position open. After chatting with several of my classmates and other residents, the major reason why those openings occurred was due to the fact that the resident was truly incompetent or did something very bad. As you can see, there are currently more spots available than students applying. Hence, some of the programs may be stuck with incompetent students that usually don't get 3 year programs in the past.

By the time you are ready to start residency training, all of the programs would have converted over to 2 or 3 years residency training models. Even now, there are very very few PSR-12 or PPMR or RPR positions remaining.

My recommendation is for you to not focus on residency now. Just do the best you can in Podiatry school and learn as much as you can.
 
capo said:
Can you do a 2 year, THEN later pickup the 3rd year? I'm just wondering what someone would do if they went through school, graduated and had their heart set on a 3 year, then couldn't get it?

Can you do any less than a 2 year residency anymore as of now, by the way? I'm looking too far ahead I know, as things will change in the next few years, but it is a consideration many students should be aware of BEFORE starting school and getting into serious loan debt. 😱

😱
Good Question
 
dpmgrad said:
If you don't get into a PM&S-36 program and you ended up doing a PM&S-24 program, you can always try to scramble into a 3rd year position of a PM&S-36 program. There are various reasons why a second year or a third year position may become available. Some of these include resident being unhappy in the program, resident being fired due to incompetency or did something very bad, resident dropping out for personal reasons, etc.... This year alone had several programs that had a second or third year position open. After chatting with several of my classmates and other residents, the major reason why those openings occurred was due to the fact that the resident was truly incompetent or did something very bad. As you can see, there are currently more spots available than students applying. Hence, some of the programs may be stuck with incompetent students that usually don't get 3 year programs in the past.

By the time you are ready to start residency training, all of the programs would have converted over to 2 or 3 years residency training models. Even now, there are very very few PSR-12 or PPMR or RPR positions remaining.

My recommendation is for you to not focus on residency now. Just do the best you can in Podiatry school and learn as much as you can.

Thanks a lot for the support, you are very helpful.
I seen the data on the conversions of residencies. Next year it will be either 2 or 3 years. Both are very good compared to the past, yet more 3 years than now.

Thanks for the support from a Grad,

Doclm.
 
dpmgrad said:
If you don't get into a PM&S-36 program and you ended up doing a PM&S-24 program, you can always try to scramble into a 3rd year position of a PM&S-36 program. There are various reasons why a second year or a third year position may become available. Some of these include resident being unhappy in the program, resident being fired due to incompetency or did something very bad, resident dropping out for personal reasons, etc.... This year alone had several programs that had a second or third year position open. After chatting with several of my classmates and other residents, the major reason why those openings occurred was due to the fact that the resident was truly incompetent or did something very bad. As you can see, there are currently more spots available than students applying. Hence, some of the programs may be stuck with incompetent students that usually don't get 3 year programs in the past.

By the time you are ready to start residency training, all of the programs would have converted over to 2 or 3 years residency training models. Even now, there are very very few PSR-12 or PPMR or RPR positions remaining.

My recommendation is for you to not focus on residency now. Just do the best you can in Podiatry school and learn as much as you can.
You're right. I should be focusing on the here-and-now, not on what the future holds. Much can and will change I'm sure in the coming years. Thanks, dpmgrad.
 
Just to clarify if you do not get a three year residency you will get a two year. PM&S 24 and PM&S 36 are the only residencies that will exist by 2007. Also, in most of the two year programs you get the same exposure to all aspects of surgery including rearfoot and trauma. The only difference is that you cannot sit to board qualified in rearfoot surgery with a two year program. That doesn't mean you won't learn the procedures. It isn't something that I would be worried about since about 3/4 of the residencies will be three year by the end of the conversion process. At DMU every student has recieved their first or second choice three year progams for the last couple of years and I don't see that changing anytime soon. There have been a couple students in the past who went to two year programs, but that was by choice.
 
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