What is the ideal criteria for a strong fam med program?

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Hello all-

Congrats to all who matched on friday! I was wondering what everyone thought the ideal criteria would be for a strong family med program? Are there better rotations to have 1st year rather than third? How much surgery should there be? What about elective time? Thanks for your input!

Ashley
 
Hi, Ashley.

I'm a third-year FM resident. I think "ideal" is person-dependent. Some prefer urban vs rural location. Some want a larger program. Some like academic centers.

In my opinion, a medium-sized (7-8 per class) program is ideal--there are enough residents to cover hospital services while giving time for lighter rotations. No matter what your preferences from above, look for an unopposed program, meaning that family med is the only residency in that hospital. Why? Because family docs do everything! If we have to compete with a peds residency or OB residency, chances are that the family med resident will get the less interesting case or easier delivery. Family med has been deligated to a strictly outpatient arena, and that just isn't true for everyone. I, for instance, will be practicing inpatient, outpatient, inpatient peds/nursery, and OB. If I didn't have a strong foundation from my training, I would be doomed.

Other nice qualities? Good morale and comraderie among residents. Residents having their own patient panel to care for. Faculty who are full-time. Having plenty of volunteer specialist faculty. Night float during the week.

As for rotations, you will want to get a good foundation of internal med as an intern. Most programs that I am aware of have a mix of inpatient (peds, i-med, and OB) for the first 2 years and then become more outpatient heavy going into third year. I believe both emergency med and surgery are requirements. Surgery as a family med resident is VERY different than it is as a student--at my program, it is our vacation month. 🙂 It is there for residents as a way to learn pre-op and post-op care. As far as electives are concerned, it is probably better to have them for later in residency, when you have identified your weaknesses and want to work on them. I would imagine that having 4-5 electives is about standard.

Anyone else care to comment?
 
Wow thank you so much! I am really grateful for all the tips you gave. A lot of the programs I am looking at are opposed unfortunately. Is there a good way to find out how much that affects your family med residency? I am interested in practicing inpatient and outpatient and I have a lot of interest in GYN but probably won't do obstetrics for financial/liability reasons. If there is an obgyn residency then it will mean we won't do much at all? Also, are all family med surgery months like you described from what you hear?

Thank you again for your VERY helpful info.
 
At opposed programs, you're more likely to have a month similar to that of the 3rd years and interns because you're more likely to be part of the surgical service team. Unopposed, you work with a private attending who's more likely to be less reliant on the FM resident than say a surgery resident team.
 
There are strong opposed programs, so I wouldn't rule them out altogether...I would look into both opposed and unopposed and see where you feel most comfortable.
 
Above all, as you are looking, talk to the residents at the program and try to spend some time there beyond one interview day (if you think you want to match there). It is easy for everyone to put on a good show for a few hours, but if you actually spend a decent amount of time, you will get an idea of what the atmosphere is like. I also suggest talking to the nurses and even students who are rotating there. Nurses and students have no qualms about telling the truth about the residency. They are also privy to complaints from the residents/attendings.
 
I thought about the following:
1) Geography -where are you willing to live?
2) What do you want your dream practice to be? Will this training make you ready to do that? Does this practice feel like a version of your dream practice?
3) How much does peds matter to you -ask them what % of their panel is kids, how much inpatient peds you do. That varied a lot from program to program.
4) Ask what the graduates do. Does that sound like what you want to do?
5) Patient population. Are they the patients you want to learn about?
6) Didactics. How do you learn? Does that sound good to you?
7) Electives: Do you need to do away electives? Do you really want to? How much time is allowed to do that?

Really, the only important questions are 1 and 2. You need to feel that it's right. There is a lot of soft selling that goes on during interviews, etc, and after you've been on a few interviews, and you've had some time to process, you can start to weed through and see what really fits you. I was hot to trot on getting a 100% unopposed program, and after interviewing at several opp/unopp, realized it is not a magical guarantee of a strong program, or substantially different from an opposed training in some cases.

If you're really stuck, go to the national conference to help you narrow it down. Talking to folks helps.
 
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